Intel has released a video demonstrating the MeeGo mobile operating system on a tablet PC, mere days after Nokia pulled the rug out from under their MeeGo partnership with Intel by embracing Windows Phone for their faltering handset line. As part of its marketing onslaught at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, the company …
After looking at the video...
....I'm sure glad I got an iPad.
Everyone now-a-days thinks that their devices are going to change the way we interact with the world and revolutionise computing. This looks like a great big FAIL.
Too much going on, too many slidey panels, too much stuff that wants to constantly update itself. Looks like it may be halfway useful in a work environment but not quite.
What I love about the iPad is it's simplicity and the fact that it's impossible for me to do any serious work on it. It's for sitting on the sofa, surfing the net and playing crappy games while watching the TV. Tablets will never be anything more than that.
I know, "too much" = 'too hard, I might even have to use my BRAIN!!!' Right, (stereotypical) Apple user?
Simplicity? You mean the lack of features or that it's restricted as hell and Father Steve has to approve everything first?
Your iPad is the classic example of a largely useless device unless you have the whole nine yard: desktop Mac, iPhone, Mobile Me etc - all things any self-respecting iTard supposed to buy, per Steve "Freedom from Porn" Jobs, Puritan-in-Chief's "recommendations".
Anyone wants to push iPad, a tablet that cannot run Flash, as an internet device is clearly either an utterly clueless loudmouth or an astroturfer, sorry.
Paris because it's her level of stupidity.
I guess it all depends on how you define stupidity
It seems to me an awful lot of people just want that experience. Don't want to worry about codecs, don't want to worry about why their battery performance is erratic, etc. etc.
You seem to be missing the point that the OP wants an internet appliance in the same way he wants a washing machine or any other home appliance, simple to use, simple to maintain and consistent in what it does.
Re-read your post my friend, as spot the irony in the phrase "utterly clueless loudmouth". These things cut both ways. You have your choice, let him make his.
I don't often get offended by posts on here, so well done, you're gone further than most. :-(
Two sides to the story; this is why we need choices and hence iOS, Android and Meego. And, though it pains me, Windows too (possibly). I personally loathe the brain-off Apple approach (and its habit of turning people into sheep all following its locked-down, restrictive pyschosis) but that's just me. Also highly dubious about what Google will do with Android (there's "open" and there's "open"). Microsoft has already proved itself countless times on this score.
This is why we need Meego. Bad boy Nokia, in your bed!
"Tablets will never be anything more than that."
Tablets have been more than that for years. It's just that tits like you think that Apple invented them, and that a glorified picture frame is worth £600.
RE: I guess it all depends...
...did I see something I should reply to...?
Oh, no, nothing - it's just some stupid nonsense about a supposed 'internet appliance' with no Flash, written by some run-and-gun, ball-less Anonymous Coward idiot.
Still Paris because only she could miss the whole point (ie internet device) twice in a row so badly.
"Tablets have been more than that for years"
And selling like shit patties the whole time. What exactly is your point?
Are you having a bad day fella?
Chill with a beer and a flash advert or two, you'll soon feel better.
Well I'm sure Paris has an iPad. But I'm also sure that very few people will have a MeeGo based tablet. This is a two horse race between iOS and Android, which Android will win. However Apple will pick up the prize money since Android just won the race to the bottom.
If Nokia had hired someone from Google rather than Microsoft perhaps things would have been different. I bought a tablet device (Nokia 770) years before Apples iPad, but unfortunately no one else bought one. Came with a stylus and was poorly supported by Nokia. They blew it from my perspective as a customer.
The N770 was followed by the N800, N810 and N900. The original Maemo OS2006 was updated to OS2007, OS2008 and Maemo 5.
There is plenty of software for these. Importantly for me is Python and Glade to build applications that run unchanged on Maemo, Linux desktop and Windows.
They are fine pocket machines.
Is it just me
or was the response time for the user input appalling?
<2 seconds pass>
Menu pops up.
Must try harder
You've missed a bit there
Tapping on the UI is not intended to bring up a menu. Just like on Maemo and Android, to select an item, you tap it, and to bring up a context menu for an item, you hold on it, which is exactly what he does in the vid.
No, he hasn't
It WAS too slow.
Now, maybe the settings can be adjusted to reduce the delay before the context menu pops up, but looking at other moments of lag, I just had an imaginary LED flickering as it struggled to thrash an imaginary hard-drive to swap it's virtual memory out and load the menu. (remember Windows?)
It was pathetic.
intel should just hire the meego engineers from nokia
they can then drive meego in a manner of their choosing. even if anti poaching agreements exist between them at least for the alliance, i don't see nokia in a position to enforce such an agreement now.
dear mr. elop,
So their homescreen looks like 3 phones bolted together, there's no examples of multi touch (does the OS have it? surely it does) and everything requiring that agonizing long-press.
Why can't the music browser be launched from the 'music panel'?
What I would like to see is the settings configuration.
Will any of this stuff make its way in to the repos?
Nearly had one of the furry striped fuckers tonight. He can thank Volvo for ABS... (My first non-test use ever.) Where are the warning signs when you need 'em?
Looks nice, but...
Can I still tap a few buttons and bring up Bash? Seriously, that's like the best thing about having a Maemo device - underneath it all, it's Debian. If I can have a panel on there that tails our site logs off to one side of what I'm doing, you've sold me. I'll buy two.
And no, Android users, don't tell me you can do the same. The SSH clients I've tried on my Desire are all crap. The best multitasking system I've used is Maemo, and this also looks better for the way I work.
You can have the shell open
I have installed Meego on my EEEPC and I can confirm that shell is available from applications menu or panel or whatever they call it.
Going to have another bash at getting it on my N900. Is it a Debian-based system again?
From the Meego FAQ
Q: Is MeeGo based on another distribution (like Fedora or Debian)?
No. Meego is its own independent distribution, run as an open source project. In that sense, you can consider MeeGo an upstream distribution, that itself pulls from the upstream of the various open source projects it is based on.
@ Levente Szileszky : Simplicity?
I was half expecting someone like you to accuse me of being an apple fanboi. Ha Ha...
You need to realise that tablets are toys, they are not PCs. Any tablet trying to be a PC is in for FAIL. The Intel MeeGo thing looks like it wants to replace my laptop....it will fail badly. The iPad is a toy that can't do shit but surf the net and play crappy games. I love it for that. I am under no illusions regarding the iPads limitations. IMHO it's not even worth jailbreaking
If I am a fanboi, then it'll be for Linux. Typing this on my Debian testing laptop, see that I did over 2300 hours (walltime) of computing last night on Red Hat clusters around the world.......
Why does everyone just immediately jump on and say 'Apple iOS is loads better' - 'Not as good as Android' etc etc. Choice is a good thing everyone. What you prefer someone else will hate. I love it when there is a few to choose from instead of just two.
I personally hate the iOS way of doing things (Grid of icons, scroll right, ooh look more icons ad nauseum, no 'interface' at all). I also dislike the Android interface just ported to tablets as they are NOT phones, they should be treated as a different device, Android 3 looks promising tho. Windows 7 doesn't work either as it NEEDS a keyboard and mouse. I quite like the look of this Meego mallarkey and I hope it does actually get used on a device or two.
My 2p. :)
No multi-user support?!
I've subscribed to meego bug #2682 "Add multi-user support" for many months, and the DAY BEFORE the MS deal was announced someone at nokia announced to the list
"--- Comment #17 from jukkaeklund <email@example.com> 2011-02-10 08:09:56 PST ---
I'm sure no one can deny the validity of this feature request. However this is
not proceeding because there seems to be no business or otherwise interest to
develop notebook further. MeeGo is open so if there is need, somebody can
implement this based on the contribution guidelines. Is there somebody willing
to take the ownership of this and discuss in the architecture and PM community?"
Unless Intel pick this up, Meego will be doomed to fail on anything other than phones.
( no, I can't code...)
Poking Android, not iOS
Darren Wilson takes a none-too-subtle poke at Apple's iPad operating system, iOS, saying that his team isn't merely "taking a handset UI and scaling it up to a tablet."
Er, no. That's a poke at Android, not iOS.
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You serious?! The iPad is just the iTouch/iPhone interface with more icons on the home screen! That can be good or bad, I'm not putting an opinion here.
Whilst current droid tablets are using 2.x (or older in some cases), Honeycomb is now out, thats a totally different interface...
Im not stating an opinion which is better, just stating Apple just added more app icons to the home screen (and added some other features), google HAS changed the entire homepage experience with Honeycomb... So they are DIGGING at Apple not Google....
Wasn't talking about Honeycomb
Honeycomb may be an improvement, but I was talking about the versions of Android which have been used up until now, and I strongly suspect the guy in the article was too.
The UI and apps in iOS are very well optimised for the device they're running on, be that iPhone or iPad.
Just what I’ve been waiting for.. a fondleslab that implements a “right-click” gesture.. and what an involution doing it after a delay..
I’m sure there is a huge market for people who still reminisce for a Window 3.0 286 right-click-delay-experience.
I like MeeGo.
I've only used it on a Netbook, so a different experience in many ways, but it was a very nice operating system, simple to use and I could just get on with stuff.
Plus of course, being based on Linux (x86 at the moment at least) I'm sure it will be a hackers favourite...
Re: After looking at the video...
"Everyone now-a-days thinks that their devices are going to change the way we interact with the world and revolutionise computing."
To be fair, that's exactly what people claimed about the Ipad too.
Me, I prefer sitting on the sofa with a netbook. Give me a real keyboard anytime, a real OS, and I much prefer the way it sits nicely on my lap, without me having to hold it (or look directly down on it, getting a sore neck). Touchscreens on netbooks will become common soon enough I bet anyway, making the distinction irrelevant.
"Came with a stylus"
Why is that bad? It was optional, surely? I prefer a stylus for the extra precision and avoiding wiping muck on the screen, though fingers can be used for brief periods too.
Stylus Bad because...
The 770 stylus was was bad as it was there to be lost. Using your finger wasn't really an option as the ui was so small. Handy for scratching your chin though. The other downside of a stylus is you look a complete nerd using it in public. Though I admit you look like a nerd with friends using an iPhone.
While I'm moaning about Nokia's 770 they also blew the plastics they used, it was brittle and had
to be replaced with little wear. They were slow to revise the OS then annoyed anyone who bought
one by releasing an updated device for which OS wasn't backwardly compatible.
At least with Apple you have a year or so hardware wise. Even my iPhone from 2007 will run a lot of the apps released now. With Nokia I get a general impression they just don't care about customer experience. I say that after having written for Symbian which was a complete pain. You had to get a note from your Mum if you wanted to use some of the APIs.
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