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Security watchers have urged Wikileaks to stop hosting its material with a "bulletproof" Russian ISP believed to primarily cater to, or be controlled by, Russian cyber criminals. Wikileaks.org now points to a mirror of the site, mirror.wikileaks.info, hosted by Webalta, a blackhat ISP linked to a company called Heihachi Ltd, …

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Big Brother

If Amazon was not beholen to Senator Lieberman's puffery

...all of that could have been avoided.

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@DAM

Totally agree. And it doesn't matter where it is hosted. Because information wants to be free, indeed.

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Wikileaks

This organisation can be judged by the company it keeps.

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Yes-

Amazon is hanging out with some dodgy politicians.

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Troll

Be nice to our pet troll.

Every forum needs one.

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Hosting services

Perhaps Spamhaus and Trend Micro could prevail on some major US hosting provider to host the site. This would clear up any problems with the hosting reputation.

I hear that Amazon.com provides such a service.

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Its almost like they wanted a legit host like amazon.

but they wouldn't let them.

People go where they are driven.

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When They Outlaw Free Speech...

... only outlaws will have free speech.

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Oh yes...

and guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Geez. What you forget is that just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you SHOULD

Note that Wikileaks has not posted information it thinks is significant, but is rather suffering from an unimaginable case of webarrhea. This isn't idealism - it's populism.

Anonymous because there are plenty of nutters out there who might try to DDOS me for saying something nasty about Wikileaks.

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Anonymous Coward

Spot On!

This story is laughable, so transparent!

LOL Let's try and discredit Wikileaks/Julian.... yawn.... hardly subtle, it's what the guilty in power do every time they are ratted out, so very lame and obvious. They (politicians) are like children! "But Miss, look at what he's doing...but he did this, but he did that - Miss he smells" After they have been caught out. Hahaha....

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Stop

Actually...

It doesn't look so far as if they can touch it in any jurisdiction except United States...

So far, France has rejected to close down the website hosted there, and for all the "persecution" of Assange by Sweden, the site is still hosted there, loud and clear.

By the way, Spamhaus is based in UK.

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What?

"moved to a jurisdiction they can't touch" Who is 'they'? Spamhaus is *not* an enforcement agency, nor are they tied to any agency or nation. And in any case they are not criticizing them for going with a Russian ISP, they are criticizing them for going with an ISP known for hosting malware.

Also, Wikileaks serves PDFs, and with the all the vulnerabilities in Adobe's reader, the ISP could easily add in a vulnerability into one of them. Or governments for that matter, just inject some code that will identify whether the machine is a non-government machine and infect it.

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@Titus

I see. Stop someone having anything to do with those you regard as {spit} upstanding, then criticise them for for dealing with those you don't like.

How very reasonable.

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We call sheep stupid

after centuries of selectively breeding them for their behaviour. And lock pigs (naturally fairly clean animals) in a stinking pen of soiled mud and then point and call them dirty, so why not force data-providers we don't like to ISPs of dubious reputation and then point it out? It is just human nature!

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And meanwhile there are over 2000 wikileaks mirrors.

Wikileaks is currently mirrored on 2174 sites (updated 2010-12-14 22:12 GMT) (from http://wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html).

And there are instructions on it's site on how to set up mirroring so that it can be updated - not only is the cat out of the bag, the horses bolted and the leaper leapt, but unless wikileaks decides that it's not under assault by the US, and fighting for it's survival - which I doubt will happen anytime soon - it would seem that they are far more interested in carrying out their mission to spread the leaked truth than they are in protecting the organisation that is attacking them.

funny that.

ttfn

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Calling Russia a "virtual" mafia state doesn't really do it justice. I would say they are a literal mafia state at this point.

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This is what happens...

When you criminalize certain activities, like drinking alcohol, smoking cannabis, or publishing the truth. The black market will provide.

I'm sure Webalta is looking forward to the future business of The Guardian, Le Monde, and The New York Times.

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Conspiracy Theory #1

The CIA, NSA, Magij-12, Chuck Bartowski or Division have placed the wikileaks mirror on the site of dubious reputation, but retains control.

The "owner" can then start adding false documents among the released material Documents that it can later prove to be false, thereby proving wikileaks made everything up and it's all be a big hoax.

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Thanks for playing, but

A quick check of all the other mirrors out there will quickly prove which are the fake documents.

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hmm

I wonder how much of this is just because most web host are scared to touch them or take their buisness, who would want to host a site thats subject to such negative things as DDoS attacks and possible political/legal proceedings form the USA.

They have looked at hosting with OVH but OVH wouldnt accept them without legal advice which it seams has been hard to get and even then they have been advised to not touch them (source: http://forum.kimsufi.co.uk/showthread.php?t=889). If you cant get hosting any place but the blackhat ISP's then thats the place your sites going to live.

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Clever or foolish?

Who's to know if a particular ISP is or is not inherently serving up malware, are we so naive to rule out the possibility that supply and demand has indeed produced mafia-run ISPs, run as legitimate business fronts but which also generate revenue from malware or their customer's malware?

Whether Wikileaks chose to take take their business there or were driven there is largely irrelevant, it's a pretty big gamble with all that data....then again they may just have picked that ISP to get up the yanks noses.

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@Titus Technophobe

Interesting viewpoint I was going to respond further but I fear that the arguments I would have posted would be lost in translation

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Why not?

Hosting wikileaks there seems an obvious choice, the staff at this ISP are obviously not going to bow down to pressure from the US government or other interested parties...

I was a case of either host it somewhere like this, or keep moving from host to host as you get kicked off.

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