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Do you suffer from unsatisfactory projectile climaxes? Is your software construction methodology previous generation? Do you require the predictable outcome of pre-planning with the flexibility of iteration and the lightness of touch of partially de-hierarchicalised management approaches? No need to say anything. I can tell from …

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Sir

At first I thought the article lacked appropriate comprehension techniques aimed at the literate, but then I came to the actualisation in my mind that

<scrob off>

there's no need to spell check.

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Apologies to fervent administers of the aforementioned technique if this utterable has somehow encompassed a passing facsimile of sense.

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Surely.

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Nice

Difficult to be agile at my age but becoming a SCROBER!

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"Can you find it?"

Yep. The word is "cross-" ... Board-room bingo has been old longer than most folks reading this have been alive.

::uploads:: three ::frowns:: for Xmas.

Ta as always, Stob :-)

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Analogue

For some reason I always think of Ms Verity as the intellectual and more literate version of the BOFH, in the way that she challenges assumptions. She isn't Lucy Kellaway, is she?

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Erm...

<cough> *AN* holistic scrum....

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Can I find the imposter?

Yes, I can. It is "deliverable", since I'll be throwing everything away.

Do I get a pint? Or am I expected to make do with a transsubstantiated cup of tea?

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Welcome

And there was me...

...thinking it was stiction, which is what holds sticklebricks together. We're a playmobil shop here.

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Heart

Execution Execution Execution

As a fully acredited SCROB2 practitioner I take umbrage at the way this article completely failed to address the essential techniques of BACKEDUPLOGS and REPETITIONS.

SCROB, just like any other deadly serious project management methodology, is only as good as the people executing it.

Sorry, I put that backwards, the execution is only as good as the methodology; SCROB gives you a chance to be executed every day at 9am on the dot, whether you turn up or not.

On the other hand, the entire thing might just be a made up user story...

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Very droll

Yes, I can't help laugh at some aspects of Scrum and the religious zeal of some proponents. To keep up the religious comparison, for some reason the Scrum evangelists tend to focus on form over substance - as you point out. One can't just go through the motions and decide they're now "agile".

However, Scrum as a reaction to top-down, rigid waterfall methodology should be seen as nothing short of a developer revolution. Done right, it puts a lot of power in developer hands and really lays bare the pain points (like overoptimistic and overbearing managers deciding on what's possible to do in what time frame).

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Case in point

"However, Scrum as a reaction to top-down, rigid waterfall methodology should be seen as nothing short of a developer revolution. Done right, it puts a lot of power in developer hands and really lays bare the pain points (like overoptimistic and overbearing managers deciding on what's possible to do in what time frame)."

Bingo, sir.

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@TomMaddox

http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1994-02-22/

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Oops

When you talk about things you need to give them names. It can be confusing, I know.

Perhaps I should have said Scrum makes it plain it's my boss who's an idiot when I'm not able to achieve the impossible.

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"Us in charge! Us in charge!"

Funny, but no matter where you go, every profession thinks they should be running the show. I've seen it from product developers, designers, marketeers, accountants as well as PMs and developers.

Thing is, many *good* (and yes, there are many *not* good ones) PMs and architects have been in the development trenches, so don't come the "we developers always know best" malarkey. Does experience not count these days (ah yes, that's right, it never does to the young). When you're in a trench, you tend to have a restricted view... come back and argue when you've done something *else*. (Applies also to marketeers, accountants etc).

The other pattern I see again and again is that revolutions defined on what they're *against* are rarely as successful as those defined on what they're *for*. Very, very few agilistas are able to articulate the problem they're trying to solve, beyond "Waterfall: BOOOOO!" and if they are, are rarely able to articulate how they're planning to solve it. Principles are great, and "be supportive of your team" behavioural ones don't really require the evangelism and "Two Legs: Bad. Four Legs: Good" rhetoric.

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However, while Scrum doesn't have magic answers to many things (you can't ignore architectural plans etc. as some seem to think) it does improve on the plan-implement-test (I've used up my quota of buzzwords) pattern in many ways. I just picked one favourite improvement from a developer point of view.

Maybe I hit a nerve. Notice I never said developers always know best. I just wanted to highlight how I find some satisfaction that Scrum has mechanisms to protect the developer from some friendly manager coming up with "here's a small thing I need you to do, should only take half an hour" and being pressurized into skimping on quality. It becomes the customer/manager's transparent, conscious and on-record decision to reprioritize: either leave something out of the scope or defer it to later. When following plan-implement-test those decisions are hidden and contribute to budget overruns, bad quality and late deliveries.

Besides, it's often that poor PM's are just trying to make happen what the clueless marketeers promised to the customer. ;)

I agree (and it should be plain from my previous posts) that many agilistas reduce Agile to some silly catch phrases, which is a shame. It detracts from the real meat and people (yourself included?) end up thinking it just means something like "be supportive of your team".

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SCROBigami

Pure class!

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My hat is off to you.

I am strangely attracted to these promises of lithe development techniques and supple software, and to being part of the it-crowd that fondles Innovation's bum. I could not tell you why.

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STOBtastic

Or should that be SCROBtastic? Mind you, her at $BIGCO we just swear; it's easier and means an end to lack of comprehension.

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missing link

Why was not there a link to sign up page for the SCROB course?

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Katakana English (or Ingurishu)

works-orders = waakusu oudaruzu (ne!)

Amari muzukashikunai, Berachi-san.

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OK, I give up. is "Brad Plan-Driven" based on a real person, and if so who?

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