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A new charity, SaferMedia, has been launched to combat the menace of the sexualisation of society. Its demands for cleaning up the internet are likely to be fed into an official government review of sexualisation in childhood later this year. Around 70 delegates from a range of concerned organisations met in the Grand Committee …

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Double standards as usual

Pornography apparently "leads men to objectify women". Anyone who's ever seen a diet coke ad knows that this works both ways but they don't seem to want to point that bit out.

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Can I please just say ...

... that I am not the John Woods in the article?

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Less Christians having sex would be a good thing

I think this is a fabulous idea. The sooner those Christians stop reproducing, the sooner we can start spending government money on useful research!

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"Our faith"

This is from their site: http://www.mediamarch.org.uk/ourfaith.htm

"Our Faith

mediamarch heartily endorses the Christian aspirations which have been publicly displayed, ever since 1931, at BBC Broadcasting House in London. We recognise that these are in accordance with Philippians 4:8, and the wording used is as follows:

"This Temple of the Arts and Muses is dedicated to Almighty God by the first Governors of Broadcasting in the year 1931, (Sir John Reith being Director General). It is their prayer that good seed sown may bring forth a good harvest, that all things hostile to peace and purity may be banished from this house and that the people, inclining their ear to whatsoever things are beautiful, and honest and of good report, may tread a path of wisdom and uprightness."

mediamarch and its supporters are committed to campaigning on behalf of all those who are being harmed as a result of the increasingly explicit violence, sex and bad language in media content. Those affected range from both the victims and the perpetrators of media-fuelled crime, through to couples struggling with dysfunctional relationships, and to young girls who become anorexic in their pursuit of stick-thin 'beauty'.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Ephesians 6:12)

That the people may tread a path of wisdom and uprightness"

May I put in a request for a Mary Whitehouse icon?

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Grammar Nazi

Not less. Fewer. (However, I agree with the sentiment.)

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Really?

In this respect, one speaker cited an ad for Mikado chocolate biscuits, which was described as a "pre-pubescent girl having her fanny photographed".

In which world is a 20 year old or more girl considered "pre-pubescent". I have to assume the use of Fanny is the American one. Unless the original commentator is privy to footage that was not broadcast.

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De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da

And they (purposefully?) conflate a photocopier with photography. To quote the ever excellent Police:

Poets, priests and politicians

have words to thank for their positions

Words that scream for your submission

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Well quite

I think it's the English use of "fanny"; it's a definite upskirt.

But I still don't know many 12-year-olds with office jobs.

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fanny != knees

The only part of her body touching the photocopier (and therefore in the focal plane of the copier's optics) were her knees. I've seen some very nice knees in my time, but as a rule it's a part of a woman's body that I like to keep away from my groin.

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Some People Doth Protest Too Much

Whoever that speaker was, I think the fact they perceived a fully-grown adult as a pre-pubescent girl says more about them than it does about anyone else. Perhaps they doth protest too much?

And this brings up the question: how does repressed paedophilia manifest itself?

It's a serious question that does need to be considered, lest we make the mistake of entrusting children's safety to repressed paedophiles who are parading around as "think of the children" extremists.

Paris, because she was pre-pubescent once. I needn't explain the rest.

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*sighs*

I thought we'd shipped all the bloody puritans off the the colonies?

Working in a office predominantly staffed by women I can tell you one thing - they're as bad (if not worse) than most men - how many posters of a half-naked "Jacob from Twilight" do you think there are here? Yeah.

As for "Sexualisation of Society" - I'm fairly convinced that society is getting tamer by the generation. The Victorians were a bunch of smutty monkeys (despite their claims to the contrary) - I dread to think what our grandparent got up to "during the war" - or our parents in the 60s. Go back far enough - read some Chaucer for instance - and it's just filth I tells ya!

Sexualised society? Pffff - it gets tamer by the generation.

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Go

Note fromt he Colonies:

We're done with 'em...you can have them back.

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I whole heartedly agree

Porn and alcohol are destructive but it's pretty much all we've got left, any politician would be massively naive to mess with either.

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Mikado

'In this respect, one speaker cited an ad for Mikado chocolate biscuits, which was described as a "pre-pubescent girl having her fanny photographed".'

That speaker is clearly a complete bell-end. Even the half sighted could surely see that the "girl" is clearly in her twenties, and has the accompanying "tattybojangles" (to quote Russell Howard) - definitely not items of pre-pubescence.

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Pre-pubescent?

If that is where they are drawing the line for pre-pubescent I can understand why they might equate nearly all pornography with child porn. Anyone under the age of 50 might look pre-pubescent so they should all be banned!

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Re: Pre-pubescent?

Also, Mikados totally look like really long thin willies. LOOK.

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Sorry everyone.

Sarah's seen some chocolate and gone off the deep end.

Again!

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quite

And the box they "come" in resembles a cubist minge.

At least that was my excuse when my workmates walked in on me.

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Re: Sorry everyone.

Hahah it's funny because chocolate makes women go crazy it's true.

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RE: Sarah

"Hahah it's funny because chocolate makes women go crazy it's true."

Many a time i've been attacked for my last rolo so i can confirm that as true

Whatever happened to those chocolate pretzels?

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RE: Sarah

In my experience chocolate tends to have the opposite effect. There is many a rolling pin that hasn't been bashed on my head ....... Well if you know I had a lot to do with women and all.

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drawing a line

"If that is where they are drawing the line"

Careful - drawing a few lines might now have you locked up in prison for possession of "child" porn, if it's deemed to look like a 17 year old "child" doing something sexual!

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Ridiculous

The solution is very simple just ban the Internet. It doesn't really do much for society anyway, and with Web Too it is going to do even less.

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What is really obvious

Just keep anyone under the age of 18 off of the net. Simple. Give the kids back their sandboxes and let them play outdoors. This reminds me of the Wild West. It was the cowboys and the rest of the neer-do-wells that settled the west. When it become safe enough, the do-good-ers moved in. Same with the web. It was created by adults for adults, and it's Madison Avenue that "lusts in their hearts" to have children on the web so they can sell them stuff. Now THAT is perversion.

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guffle

We don't want any sexualisation by the back door!

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not only that

also 'sexualisation is a slippery slope'.

I'd bloody hope so - especially if it's by the back door.

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Crikey

"by acting as a massive drain on time available for commitment"

If they're drawing on their own experiences, then I'd suggest that they've been over doing it a bit!

Either that, or they've really no clue what they're talking about.

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Indeed....

I rather suspect they are speaking from experience.

It has been my experience in life that the more table thumping and moralising a person is the more likely that they have a guilty conscience. Just look at how many of the politicians which shout about “family values” have been then caught doing the nanny/secretary/neighbour etc etc.

That’s not to say that some aspects of the media may have got a little over the top but I don’t see quite the problem these folks seem to.

As someone else said – if you’ve ever worked in an office full of women you will have heard conversations which would put builders in the pub to shame! The idea that women are being picked on exclusively is just wrong.

Finally – if you don’t like what your kids can see on the internet then put a filter on, monitor what they do – it’s your job as a parent. It (At least that way they have to work for the dirty stuff – it gives a much better sense of satisfaction :) )

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I started laughing around this part: "...acting as a massive drain on time available for commitment" and didn't stop until the end. Loathsome as I find such groups, they're still fun to hear about. They're invariably indistinguishable from parodies of themselves.

Honestly, any parsing of this I could come up with amounted to some combination of "ZOMG he's getting aroused by someone who isn't me!" and "Somebody think about the kiddies! Think about the kiddies now because we told you to! ...hey, you thought about the kiddies. You sick pervert pedo."

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Double Crikey

"with children frequently and accidentally exposed to wholly inappropriate material, such as bestiality and child abuse, speakers explained."

I don't know what kind of websites they've been browsing, maybe children are more 'vulnerable' somehow, but I've never been accidentally (or deliberately) exposed to any bestiality or child abuse... Hysterical much, I think so.

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ohhh dear

firstly i would like to point out that the child's access to the internet is the parents responsibly no the governments. What they are saying here is they would like a communist society which, if u wanted i would move to china, and im still here in the uk.

Porn have labels on it saying that this will damage your health?? im sorry but i really cant think of anything that is really going to happen if you look at it. well except maybe this one .

WARNING this product if found by your partner might cause you to be hit over head with a frying pan!

lastly the best way to sort people who think like this, the best thing to do is to get them laid and im sure that will help with them all.

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They're right!

My brain has been "pornified"; I just scanned "Miranda Suit" as "Miranda Slut"!

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Meh.

Another group demonising the internet. Why can't such people see that the internet is purely a communication medium. What the medium is used for is a reflection of what people want. If it's mostly used for content of a sexual nature it's because that's what people want.

If you don't like it, don't use it.

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It's always been this way

Cave walls, paintings, books, videos, dvds

Whenever a new communication medium is developed it's almost instantly used to reproduce smut.

Not that that is necessarily a bad thing, each new medium is smaller and easier to hide from your mum or partner.

(can you imagine trying to read a cave wall under the duvet at night...)

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You've only

got to walk down the Itallian section of any major art museum and count the number of naked breasts exposed and divide it by the number of paintings.

Le Lourve in Paris, rates a 21.5 on the Puppies:Paintings ratio.

it's nothing new, except now idiots get to moan about it.

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Art

I remember walking around a gallery with my nephew and his mum when he was about 3. All of a sudden he stopped dead, pointed and said "Boobies!" really loud.

Anyone know where Mr Canaletto lives so I can have him prosecuted for corrupting my nephew...

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>arguments about freedom of speech and “artistic expression” were now... outdated<

Scary. Witch hunt 2.0. When you hold up China as a bastion of human decency you're on the path to damnation.

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Voluntary R18-rated Comment

Just slap a R18 on the whole internet and be done with it. The sooner we get those fucking kids off our lawn (and according to the tabloids, that is *exactly* what the kids are doing, and recording it on their own phones) the better. Time to take back the internet for adults, and to leave those of sensitive dispositions (e.g. children, the mentally frail, politicians, whackjob religious factions...) to dream of shiny happy things in their own little worlds.

Don't think this is quite R18 rated yet, so to the stroppy little toe-jobs that make up the committee, please go and sexually pleasure a dead horse and then blow your own head off in a violent and messy way.

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Innocence or Ignorance?

"However, there was also some concern that the establishment focus on sex education was leading to sexualisation by the back door."

Are these the same people that believe that only nasty things happen to the deserving, and the best way to avoid being mugged is to never attend self defence classes.

What a load of [redacted for sexualising the debate]

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I call bullshit.

'Child abuse is not some stand-alone activity "enjoyed" by a small sub-set of the population: rather, adult porn usage is frequently a gateway to an interest in such material.'

Wait what? Watching regular porno turns makes you want to look at child porn? With the not so subtle implication that it also makes you want to abuse kids directly? Cite your sources matey.

And the 'cigarette style warning'? What the fuck is that?

'WARNING: UNEXPECTED CLOSE UPS OF RON JEREMY'S GURNING MOUSTACHIOED FACE MAY LEAD TO ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION.'

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1984

They want Minitrue, Nothing less. If they get what they want, Next, if you don't agree with them you will be visited by "nice" group of "men in black" and enjoy your stay at miniluv.

The sooner we get rid of all religions, the better the world will be.

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Dr Cox said it best...

...when he said 'I'm pretty sure that if you were to take all the porn off the internet there would be one site left...and that would be called 'Bring Back the Porn'.

I'm taking this as just another hysterical denunciation by another group that wants to be noticed and likely get grants to pay for them to live rich lives. Screw them and screw their demands.

We can watch what we want, when we want, how we want. We don't need or necessarily want some materials, but I'll be damned if we lose the right to go and view what we want to, as adults.

If it's children you want to protect - perhaps you should take care of your damn kids instead of foisting your incompetence as parents on the rest of the world.

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I want my women objectified and hot!

I also want to have a .50 Browning HBAR fully locked and loaded with 500 antipersonnel rounds to use on these whining "government save me, clamp down on other people" amoral spidery cretins.

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Some fairly wild claims were put forward

"Woods' figures - which he later described as "just figures""

So, another bunch of idiots pulling numbers out of their asses.

"children frequently and accidentally exposed to wholly inappropriate material, such as bestiality and child abuse"

frequently and accidentally? What a load of crap!

I've been using the internet since day 0 and I've hit bestiality once (a typo landed me on a horse blowjob page) and I've never hit a child abuse site, maybe a few pictures of girls that could have been 17 and lied about their age. What I have been exposed to frequently is sensational "news porn" about such sites.

"gateway to an interest in such material"

The gateway argument... we don't like this but can't even make up a reason why it's bad, so it's a gateway to something bad.

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Round 'em up and shoot them

"leading men to objectify women" - of course we're always to blame, let's ignore the vast number of adverts that paint us as stupid, ugly, smelly, social inadequates that are just on the planet to open jars for women.

Bestiality - I've seen more bestiality courtesy of David Attenborough and his cronies than from any porn sites.

Mikado - how many "pre-pubescent girls" do you know that work in offices? She's clearly at least 20.

If I was in charge I'd round up people like this and have them shot. But, I do have a terrible human rights record.

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Er, I think you're veering off the definition of 'objectify' there.

Incidentally I can open any jar you put in front of me. Not making a point. Just saying. I can.

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Re: Re: Round 'em up and shoot them

(Negative portrayal of men in the media in a non-sexual way as you're describing is irrelevant to the discussion - dumb as the discussion may be.)

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Does that include pickled mushrooms?

Because after they've been in the fridge for a few weeks I can never get the damn things open without spending five minutes swearing at it then giving up and prying at the lid with a butter knife. Is there some kind of trick to it?

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Opening a jar

I'm afraid arthritis has made jar opening more troublesome now I'm in the late 70's, but I have a handy gadget of plastic and rubber called a boa, which makes it easier.

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