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Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer hung out with some more university students yesterday, as he continued his campaign to convince would-be technology and science graduates to work for the software giant. Speaking at the University of Washington, Ballmer explained that the company is still learning how to get things right with all …

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  1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
    Paris Hilton

    Just getting Priduct Launches right ... Eh?

    Just one word to sum it all up.

    KIN.

    Balmer, you are a failure. How long has MS been around? How many $$$$$ do you spend with Marketing & PR Companies? Yet you still can't get it right.

    Don't you understand Steveie boy, it is not the product launch that you are failing at, it is the product itself. Kin Fail, Zune Fail (because it was not sold worldwide). Etc etc etc.

    Time to sort out your CV Mr Balmer. The Downgrading you got last week must be really hurting.

    Microsoft are very much in danger of becoming 'yesterday's company'.

    Paris, cause she knows how to launch herself properly...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      hm?

      "Microsoft are very much in danger of becoming 'yesterday's company'."

      You mean they aren't yesterday's yet?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "there is no other category in our life”

    Yes there is: give up and walk away altogether. aka KIN.

    Ballmer the Clown icon, please?

  3. Albert Hall

    Wotta load

    Dead. Man. Talking.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ballmer is a managering guy

    It's candid in the "everybody knew already" sort of way to hear him wish to've put out exciting and new products that everybody wants. Thing is, they never have, never could, and likely never will.

    It's always been noticing something elsewhere and then buying it outright (even DOS), aping it, promising the world a vapourware version and then scramble to catch up, and so on. The most amazing thing is not that people keep on buying that crap, but that they did once in the first place. That's some amazing marketing.

    Though they never really deliver anything but chairs to the other side of the room. I recall a comment by a microsoftee that he still hoped and believed, clearly against all hope and evidence, that staying put at micros~1 was still the best way to help improve the world. In this day and age. That's some amazing internal marketing.

    But it doesn't get translated into good products. What you get is crappy products that are extremely hard to /not/ buy, thus a sort of tax on the computer you buy, and you have to keep on coming back because, well. You don't really, if you had the skills to convert files and make an alternative work for you. You often enough don't get a choice due to corporate policies that assume you don't have the skills and therefore cannot be asked to even try. It's this big complex of interlocking stupidity that keeps you pinned down.

    I broke out of it long ago and can only look back with pity, but that doesn't make it less real to those of us who're still stuck. Say what you will but the thing is that even "office" computing has not become easier over the last decade or two. Fancier, more featureful, ever more connected (vba, anyone?), but not in fact easier. And that "easy" part, that "intuitive" lie, is what micros~1 keeps on promising the world, and never delivers. What do you mean, "improving the world"? What /have/ you done for us lately, hm?

    In that respect even this transcript is painfully bare of substance. The most important message is that micros~1, despite the enormous sack of cash and huge number of supposedly the best and brightest employees in the industry, just cannot come up with truly new things by and of itself. It cannot innovate. It cannot deliver things people really want. It's the big corporation that couldn't.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "the big corporation that couldn't"

      Unfortunately that seems to be par for the course when it comes to innovation in technology. Companies like CA, HP, Symantec, Microsoft and IBM are cancers in the industry - all they can do "innovative" is to buy smaller companies that actually are innovative and then bring them into a sort of purgatory of bureaucratic dysfunction and stagnation. Because of their size, structure and lack of leadership (see the Nokia article) that's their lot in life.

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  5. Andrew Williams

    Hmmm, first a reduced bonus...

    I wonder when Microsoft is going to ask him for its money back...

    Happy days, blah blah blah...

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Stop

    Blinkers...

    “We got cases (products) that went BRILLIANTLY,”

    “We got cases that we are working on. And there is no other category in our life."

    I see Mr Balmer has his special MS Blinkers on again which shield him from seeing reality.

  7. Shane Kent

    Getting ahead of the puck

    “Trying to skate ahead as they say in hockey to where the puck will be. There’s not a science for that…"

    Sure there is, first and foremost when hockey players get old and don't perform well they get rid of them!

  8. Goat Jam
    FAIL

    With Ballmer, failure is inevitable

    "his failure to get a tablet product out the door ahead of Apple’s fondle slab, the iPad:"

    What? Hasn't Microsoft had The Dream since the late 1990's and has been pushing tablets out via their OEMs for over a decade? It's not that MS didn't get a tablet out before apple, it's that they didn't get a tablet out that wasn't big, hot, heavy with crappy battery life and a laughable excuse for an interface. Consumers stayed away from it in droves and those who bought into the dream ended up just rotating the screen around and using it like it was just another laptop.

    Currently, there are no indications that they have any clue how to do tablets any better. Even if they do a cargo cult like copy of the ipad it will still fail because both Microsoft and intel have put way too much emphasis in "familiarity and compatiblity" up to this point and now they are simply incapable of moving into areas that call for an entirely new interface and architecture.

    If I was a shareholder I would be getting out of both companies right away.

  9. Anonymous Coward
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    Gawd, Ballmer is awful

    Brash, arrogant, aggressive, and apparently visionless. Bring back Gatesy-boy, who at least knew how to run a company.

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