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Paul Chambers, the Twitter joker victim, has been sacked from a second job a week before his appeal against a widely criticised conviction for sending a "threatening" message to to blow Doncaster airport "sky high". Chambers, 27, got into a world of hurt after posting an ill-conceived update on 6 January, after inclement weather …

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Bonkers

Bonkers. If I wear a t-shirt saying "I hate you" will I get arrested too?

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Yes!

Yes, you will. By the Grammar Police! You forgot the full-stop after "you".

Mines the one that says on it "They've got a week to get their shit together or I'm blowing the airport sky high!"

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No

You are not saying whom you hate. So that does not count.

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Maybe

You may not get arrested, but you may get punched publically

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This is a public information broadcast from the real Grammar Police...

It seems there are several unfortunate persons impersonating Officers of the Grammar Police.

These false Officers are usually easy to spot if you pay attention. They tend to make mistakes when correcting poor grammar as in the example below:

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Posted Friday 17th September 2010 09:46 GMT

Yes, you will. By the Grammar Police! You forgot the full-stop after "you".

Mines the one that says on it "They've got a week to get their shit together or I'm blowing the airport sky high!"

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Did you spot the obvious mistake? "Mines the one that says..." should read "Mine's the one..." as it is a contraction of two words - mine and is - which always requires the use of an apostrophe.

Do not fall victim to these fraudsters, otherwise you will be using apostrophes incorrectly in many ways, such as "I remember the 70's... well actually I don't" when the correct usage should quite clearly be "I remember the '70s...".

If you suspect you have been a victim of a false Grammar Police Officer, please contact our Public Liaison Officer, Sarah Bee...

;)

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possibly

But if your the pope you can just call everybody Nazi's and get away with it :\

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(Written by Reg staff)

Re: This is a public information broadcast from the real Grammar Police...

Please be aware I am armed.

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I swear it's the fault of the Firefox spell checker!

They ALWAYS pick on me! I swear it's the fault of the Firefox spell checker, I swear! (Which by teh way, wants to correct "Firefox" to "firebox" - see told you it sucks!)

"Do not fall victim to these fraudsters, otherwise you will be using apostrophes incorrectly in many ways, such as "I remember the 70's... well actually I don't" when the correct usage should quite clearly be "I remember the '70s...".

Oh, I didn't know I had been shoving the apostrothingy in the wrong place, I shall try to remember that one! So don't say I don't try to learn from my mistakes! You'll probably find something else to pick on me with next week though!

I wasn't even impersonating you, I was trying to be a good citizen!

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Letters, Digits.

I assume you are legged, as well, since it's still a bit too early to be legless.

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Optimus Prime

"Bonkers. If I wear a t-shirt saying "I hate you" will I get arrested too?"

Maybe not, but if you're wearing a Transformers T-Shirt, you will be. Especially if you're in Terminal 5.

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Headmaster

Is that...

"Please be aware. I am armed."

or

"Please be aware that I am armed."

How about a compromise? If you'll settle for

"Please be aware: I am armed."

then so will I :)

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Did i win?

Nobody noticed that i spelt publicly wrong so do i win this for correcting myself?

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I wonder.....

"...as it is a contraction of two words - mine and is - which always requires the use of an apostrophe."

Would that be an apostrophe catastrophe?

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Headmaster

Pedantic bar steward

Unless they are actually laying mines under the one that says on it.... In that case the grammar is correct.

I would suggest your initial assumption is correct, but calling the grammar police and convicting someone on an assumption (or locking them up for 42 days without charge) seems a tad judgmental and extreme.

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Ahem

teh..>..the

Cough

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Re: Did I win?

You put a hyphen in "full-stop", so you don't win anything.

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Grammar Police and apostrophes

Can you get done for possession?

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Grenade

Armed?

Lewis called, he want his paperweight back.

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WTF?

I didnt realise he got convicted!!

This sets a very bad precedent for free speech.

Hope he gets enough donations to sue the fucking police for this utter disgrace.

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Sue Who?

Why would he want to sue the police?

The *airport* reported him. The police investigated it because they are legally obliged to.

The police then submitted a report to the Crown Prosecution Service - who made a decision to go ahead with the prosecution.

The magistrates court convicted him.

Parliament enacted the law in the first place.

I don't see why it is solely the police that should get it in the neck.

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Unhappy

OMG !

".....to sue the fucking police....."

Please tell me they're not policing *that* now too !!

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@Martin 49

They've obviously RTFM then.

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J O K E

"This is not about taking away his right to free speech, only about him writing something on Twitter that someone thinks is a threat."

According to the article, nobody thought it was a real threat. They were criminalising something that was obviously -- to EVERYBODY involved -- a joke. "Shouting fire in a crowded theatre" is different, it's quite reasonable to assume that's a real warning.

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Consider.

"only about him writing something on Twitter that someone thinks is a threat"

Consider the implication of your phrase starting with "only" and ending with "somebody thinks".

Consider that you are an utter moron.

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Crazy

Couldn't believe this got media attention to start with AND IT'S STILL GOING ON!!!

If it could have been considered menacing, then why did they not call in the bomb squad?

Surely to make a serious threat you have to actually direct it at said establishment?

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out of control

security paranoia is the norm in aviation now. Security staff have no authority to use their discretion.

An acquaintance of mine recently landed a conviction and fine for using the 'b-word' in a certain regional airport despite being the partner of a member of staff there and thinking it would be taken in good humour.

It doesn't help that the security staff love the sense of importance they get from indulging themselves in this behaviour.

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You do have to leave humour outside the door...

...when dealing with security people.

Anyway, how do you regulate that someone really was joking? Someone bursting into a bank with stocking over their head and waving a fake gun to later claim it was a joke may be thought to be acceptable to some but not everyone.

Where do you draw the line? Simple answer is at zero to avoid any confusion.

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Message from the funny party

...but who are these guys who make it prosecutable to attempt a joke?

And if that must be, can't lack of understanding, intolerance, overstepping the mark and narrow-mindedness be an offence too?

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A correction

Chambers' testimony that the the message was "innocuous hyperbole" was rejected by cretins....

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Headmaster

Lack a sense of humour

Airport TV programme - the guy from Chicago carrying the violin ?

Security: "What's in the case?"

Guy: "I'm from Chicago, it's a machine gun (big grin)"

Cop: "you have right to remain silent, etc"

Free speech is a right that needs protected. However, with rights come responsibilities, one of which is to remember that not everyone has a sense of humour. While you have the right to say what you want, you have a responsibility to ensure it is taken in the right context, and to the right audience.

I'm not commenting on the merits of this particular case. Both this case and the guy on Airport highlight what goes wrong when free speech is exercised out of context.

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Depends where

Once upon a time you could do that in the UK. You cannot today.

There are places around the world where people at an airport are still sane enough so you can joke about it. My favourite answer to "are you carrying weapons" at Sofia airport is "Nothing short of a couple of 10Megaton Nukes I am afraid". There it causes some chuckles and a wave through.

I would not try that one at Gatwick though.

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Anonymous Coward

Can we have a "pompous twat" icon?

"free speech is exercised out of context" Wtf are you talking about? Are you American per chance?

This is a simple case about idiocy. The prosecution has managed to claim that the guy was a threat even though the airport didn't treat him as a threat (other than reporting it). That it's happened this way is embarrassing.

In your almost completely irrelevant example, any security force that treats someone as a threat purely because they said something puerile, should be removed. Or replaced with an automaton (same problems but a lot cheaper).

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But all I said . .

Was 'Jehovah'!

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Actually!

To be fair, I remember that program. He made the joke and then refused to open the case. After numerous requests to prove he was joking the detained him. Pretty sure this was pre-9/11.

All he had to do was open the case and he would've got off with a scolding.

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Re: But all I said . .

YOU ARE ONLY MAKING THINGS WORSE FOR YOURSELF!!!!!

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I remember that

I thought the policewoman was going to have an orgasm at the fun she had crapping on that guy's day. She knew it was a joke, the staff knew it was a joke, the viewers knew it was a joke but that pathetic woman, and the sack of shit from United who insisted on the arrest, were revelling in pushing this poor bastard about for no reason.

Just as the priesthood attracts people who want to be near children, security attracts bullies that like to make people's lives miserable. Fact of life, unfortunately.

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UK is a f...ing joke of a country

Overrun by histeria, hiprocrey, bulls*it and political correctness rubbish.

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re: "UK is a f...ing joke of a country"

Judging by the quality of your comment, you're still somewhat butthurt about the comprehensive education system, I suppose?

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Big Brother

Yep 100% correct

I wouldn't be suprised if this poor bloke who is clearly getting hounded out of normal life by the authorities for no good reason, completly loses it and finds himself plotting to blow the airport sky high for real!

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Headmaster

And illiteracy

That is all

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"hiopcrey"

You've been reading the Daily Mail again, you naughty boy?

I've warned you about that before.

Now go to your room.

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Re: Yep 100% correct

"I wouldn't be suprised if this poor bloke who is clearly getting hounded out of normal life by the authorities for no good reason, completly loses it and finds himself plotting to blow the airport sky high for real!"

Well, to a certain extent, that's how terrorists are made: take away a person's or a people's ability to uphold a decent life and they're driven to doing desperate things because they have nothing to lose. Of course the fairytale about terrorism instilled in every aspiring Britard is that terrorists are born evil and are inherently evil ("and that's why we need to be vigilant in our never-ending war on terror, young Britard!"), but actual observations from the real world contradict this. Of course, the fairytale serves as a convenient way to not think about how one's own country might be causing people to become terrorists and thus lets everyone feel even more entitled to their nice lifestyle while advocating blowing other people up with expensive weapons.

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Don't worry, the grown ups will sort it out

Magistrates are the Special branch of the Judiciary. Special as in School. Once it gets before some real judges, they'll throw it out and send the CPS away with a bee in their ear.

It's up to the prosecution to make their case that a "reasonable person" would find the message threatening *in context*. They weren't required to do that by the Magistrates - and in fact, couldn't, since nobody involved in the prosecution has ever suggested that they did consider it "threatening" - but the grown ups will certainly look into that curious lapse in the burden of proof.

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Unhappy

A Pedo wouldn't get this much trouble

This is just crazy. I sure if he was an illegal immigrant, muslin, Christian, serial killer or some other minority group he could sue under the human rights act. But being a local. Bad luck friend.

Murderers get away with less trouble than this. I blame the police trying to up their figures without penalising some minority.

Something has gone seriously wrong in this Country

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Muslin?

I'm pretty sure cheesecloths aren't covered by the HRA...

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Letters and punctuation, no digits.

He got or held the job (until now) despite the conviction. And he may well be acquitted on appeal. It seems a strange reason to sack him at the time.

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British justice at its finest.

A man who has done nothing wrong is now unemployable -- that about sums up the idiocy of this country's legal system.

In other news, the head of an organisation founded on theft, murder and torture, which is known to cover up child abuse by its members and is happy to encourage behaviour which leads to the passing on of sexually transmitted diseases is treated like royalty.

Double standards?

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minor misconception there fella

"and is happy to encourage behaviour which leads to the passing on of sexually transmitted diseases"

fair enough on the other points, but you're a little off the mark on the last one. The pontiff's positon is :

birth control is bad

banging anyone and everyone with a pulse is bad

and if you avoid doing the second thing then sti's aren't really a problem.

Anyone who thinks the catholic church encourages the transmission of sti's has been listening to Peter Tatchell too long

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Read some history

The head of an organisation founded on theft, murder and torture? You mean our prime minister? Don't forget things like slavery and exploitation of colonies. How do you think ANY modern state or democracy was formed? All goodness and light, throughout history, with no greedy powermongers backstabbing or exploiting others for their own benefit along the way?

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