It's not just the 'net
Working in the region of Lambeth Palace, and we're getting no post out tonight because of security arrangements.
Based in Central London? Broadband looking a little flaky this afternoon? You better look to heaven for help, as Openreach won't be doing any callouts in the centre of Capital for the foreseeable future due to Pope-related congestion. That apparently is the gospel according to telecoms provider 2Circles, which told customers …
Working in the region of Lambeth Palace, and we're getting no post out tonight because of security arrangements.
Forget all this holiness, religious debate and BT engineering. What I want to know is - is the old bugger paying the congestion charge?
He seems to be causing more problems and congestion by his visit and he doesn't have to pay the CC ... WTF?! If anything he should have to pay MORE not get away with it
He must have some cash in that robe somewhere.
He must have a friend in high places, to get away with that one!
Jesus christ, these guys are useless.
I must stop pontificating.
Following in their legendary series of ..
We would open up local ADSL to competitors but we don't have the address of our exchanges.
We needa subsidy to install ADSL in a village 2mi from Cambridge science park because it wouldn't be commercially viable
We didn't realise phorm invaded privacy.
Now we just have - wrong sort of religious leader on the roads.
Had a look at that link out of curiosity and thought I'd stumbled onto an advert for a new Zombie flick.
What with all that drinking my blood and eating my flesh business, all that was missing was BRAAIIIIIIINS.
They have a filter!
The TOS seems to imply that the filter is not very good though...
As usual, them buggers block modern progress
BT unable to perform for a week?
BT - Bloody Typical
BT has been unable to perform for YEARS!
their expecting not to be needed - the Pope is quite experienced at wireless communication
As though it wasn't enough that we're cutting science funding by 40% in honour of his visit, now he's casting us back to the dark (cable) ages wherever he goes. Truly a medieval icon.
I found it interesting the Internet was a bit flaky yesterday afternoon. In my case, I was helping slow the Internet by seeking any interesting news online that avoided having to watch the blanket sycophantic TV coverage! (That's apparently because I'm now considered a Nazi according to the hypocritical old fart on the news promoting his cult following two faced christian values of empathy, wide spread child abuse and understanding to all but any groups he doesn't like, including it seems us atheists who are now Nazis, after all he would know, seeing as he was once a Nazi!).
Somebody said "wrong sort of religious leader"....but why disrupt so many services and inconvenience so many people for any religious leader? We must not be biased in any way.
Where do all the wars come from?
At least the taxpayer isn't being asked to pay for this nonsense...are we?
... is an act of God?
Mine's the one with the Rig-Veda in the pocket.
We don't stop traffic for politicians, stars, the wealthy , the poor..
So why should we afford this old twat such a lot of reverence?
> He doesn't speak for God - the bible states clearly that nobody on earth is receiving personal messages, in fact even the disciples didn't get to speak to JC after he ascended.
> He openly approves of pedophilia - witness his inability to keep his own clergy away from the altar boys and runaways; reshuffling his 'misguided servants of God' to different areas when they're caught
> He openly discriminates against women - witness the ease with which women are ordained to the ministry.
> He openly glorifies himself above God - witness the pomp and ceremony that accompanies his every move
> He openly makes himself 'part of this world, having earthly bindings and trappings'. Yes that's from the bible folks; witness the opulence he surrounds himself with
> among many other points.
So again, I ask.. why should he get such reverence??
Well Said Sir - I was heartily sick of the whole bloated proceedings and total over-coverage on TV. At times, nearly 50% of every news program was devoted to this fiasco. Now he's gone back to his bunker in the vatican - good riddance...........
Just pray your connection doesn't go down.
I can't believe I'm saying thing, but don't blame BT.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the police & the spooks who are trying to keep their jobs by perpetuating the myth that there's a terrorist cell living and plotting in every street in the UK.
There's no need to force BT, etc to not work in an area for a week. Sure, close the roads for the day the guy is in town, but stopping people working a week before hand ? It's just scaremongering.
"...blame the police & the spooks who are trying to keep their jobs by perpetuating the myth that there's a terrorist cell living and plotting in every street in the UK...."
Someone who has accurately seen the reason for this post-cold-war mess....
It's far worse than that.
We were visited by Prince Pip at work;
Secure MOD Facility - Miles from the edge of a camp patrolled by armed soldiers
A week before, the toilets were thoroughly cleaned and searched, then locked up.
If I needed the bog, I had to travel a fair distance.
Not to mention the other (some more sensible) security arrangements.
I'd imagine the Government is probably a little paranoid about being 'the ones wot let the pope be murdered'!
Sad thing is, once in a while, the 'paranoid' security arrangements do make a difference. Not often AFAIK but it does happen.
I'd imagine part of the issue will be that all the manholes, I mean access covers in the area will have been inspected and sealed by the bomb squad. No one will be allowed to open them until after his holiness has boarded the plane home.
Same procedure on every official visit of the Pope, the US President or G8/G20 meetings. But terrorists knew about this and use RC vehicles to access the ducts and hide their mobile explosion devices deep inside until the seal is placed, so they knew they can move it back and its safe cause no one would break the seal. Like a terrorist with a TSA pass key can place a bomb in every luggage without notice, cause he can open it without damage.
1. 2 Circles are telling the truth and BT are making pathetic excuses.
2. 2 Circles have had a falling out with BT who are refusing to do any work for them and 2 Circles are lying.
3. Both 2 Circles and BT are telling the truth and those lovely blokes in the anti-terror police have told BT they're not allowed to do any work in the capital for a week. I wouldn't put it past them. After all haven't they spent much of the last twenty-four hours arresting Algerian street cleaners and searching in vein for the massive weapons cache that these "terrorists" intended to use against the pope. Of course they were acting on information from a reliable source.
Openreach... 2 Circles... BT...
Once upon a time it was the GPO and a Postmaster General was in charge.
Now Nu-Nu-Labour-Conservatives+Liberals are planning to sell off the last remaining fragment
BT hasn't been state owned for over 25 years.
I think you mean royal mail ;)
What's with this special treatment for this paedophile condoning old reprobate?
The Vatican, on a 10 acre patch of downtown Rome, came about because Mussolini, who was an avowed atheist, wanted to become dictator, which would not be possible without the assistance of the powerful fascists who were Catholic. Pius XI was in a good position to prevent the fascists seizing power.so he commanded that priests not support the Catholic Party in an election. In effect this pope repudiated the Catholic Party.
Mussolini formed a government on October 28, 1922. A deal was cut. The Catholic Church would support the Fascist Party. In return Mussolini would restore the ancient privileges of the Catholic Church. On February 21, 1923, a cardinal said Mussolini "had been chosen to save the nation and restore her fortune."
Mussolini signed the Lateran Treaty in 1929 which made Vatican City a separate, independent state, recognized Catholicism as the state-sponsored religion, and gave the Church 750 million lire in compensation for the Vatican's loss of sovereignty.
A UN judge argues that the Catholic Church is the only religion permitted under international law to claim the privileges of statehood and its leaders immunity from civil or criminal action. See: < http://www.theage.com.au/world/treat-vatican-as-a-rogue-state-says-qc-20100908-1518j.html >.
This interruption to London's life is like Tesco's putting on a parade for Waitrose given that official church is the C of E. Britain is kowtowing to a Fascist creation against whose principle Britain lost thousands of lives fighting.
And whose gong to pick up the costs of £1.5 million for thousands of Plods to protect this guy who is riding around in a armoured car because he is so popular!
I think Britain's priorities are a little mixed up. It's bad enough losing InterNet, what happens if the electricity goes down, a gas or water pipe leaks? Wait seven days?
Just figure it's Purgatory.
If my net connection goes down how will I get my fix of young boys... says the pope
McMahon, see me afterwards.
BT Retail do the broadband that the customer sees
BT Wholesale allegedly do the broadband service delivery infrastructure from exchange to Internerd.
BT Openreach do the copper between exchange and punter (and, occasionally, fibre too).
BT Internet haven''t existed for years.
BT Openreach = physical network, "final mile". LLU ISPs pay regular access charges for SMPF and MPF access.
BT Wholesale = provide the actual backhaul and broadband services (their IPStream products and, for aggregate access, Central and Central Plus services, are used by ISPs)
BT Internet = the donuts to whom you pay your £25 per month for dismal quality service.
Mine's the one with the LLU BE Broadband + telephone service bill in the pocket
... as the cost of security and whatnot for Pinata Hat's visit, half to be paid by the vatican and the rest to be paid by, ahhh, that'd be you good folks.
And no, it appears to be much worse.
Such a bigot, such a waste, such a shame.
I can confirm that when His Holiness, Lord "Two Resignations" Mandelson (or some equally pointless diginitary, I forget) visited my former place of work a year or two ago, the manhole covers were sealed well in advance with fragile blue goo, so that any tampering would be obvious and could be investigated.
....an Act of God?
Maybe someone should start printing t-shirts like this. Or, even better, The Reg could add it to their collection of post pictures.
... Two Circles - I think .. "two chances"
I work near Westminster and like to walk home across town. I could tell my wife something not heard since the time of Henry VIII. "Sorry darling, there's a Pope in my way..."
Papal Presence Protocol ?
He's only in town for a day and a half FFS, and he isn't travelling down every street in Central London - three small areas of the centre only ( http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/16641.aspx#closures ). Why can't they provide service to the rest of the city that's not affected? Or did they give everyone the day off too so they can stand around gawping? An advantage to hiring atheists then - they don't need days off for religious holidays, apocalypses and 2nd comings; work 'em round the clock all year long. Or maybe the pope mobile will be accompanied by a procession of 100 BT Vans?
I was in Central London this morning; got completely lost but had no trouble driving up and down all sorts of random streets all around the areas within the security zone. If I can do it, why can't BT send its engineers out to get lost all over London too?
This is not news. 48 hours before ANY major event the Anti terror police seal all manholes, Post Boxes, PCP cabinets, bins etc and no one is allowed to open them. Same thing happens at all the party conferences, TUC, CBI etc
This has been the case since Brighton years ago.
> "After all haven't they spent much of the last twenty-four hours arresting Algerian street cleaners and searching in vein for the massive weapons cache that these "terrorists" intended to use against the pope. "
The clots must have had a bloody small weapons cache, then, probably hidden in an artery of the Thames...
"while the Swiss Guards try to stop Peter Tatchell from arresting the pontiff"
Someone has to though!
It was brilliant when he tried to arrest Mugabe in London, such a shame noone else helped while the bodyguards beat him off.
There's another joke in there somewhere about Homophobic Mugabe's guards beating Tatchell off ;-]
The Popes Visit £12,000,000
Aid to Pakistan £80,000,000
U.K. VAT to increase to 20% after Chrismas
No way will the pope's visit cost only £12 million
It cost more than that last time and i've already heard it mentioned that it's close to £100 million this time