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Google is warning surfers visiting BBC Radio 3's website that the classical music domain is a security risk. The malware threat appears to have been purged by Thursday afternoon but Google warning will not be removed until it has had a chance to re-scan the site and verify that it is clean. The bbc.co.uk/radio3 site was …

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Anonymous Coward

Google

What exactly is Google's track record in the anti-malware stakes? Where does their expertise lie?

The answers to those two questions are; none existant; and advertising. So why would anybody trust them on malware in the first place?

Stick to what you're good at guys and I can continue ignoring you.

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False positive or a real threat?

If they did get a false positive, then it's still better than not getting a detection at all and infecting lots of people

Why would a radio station need a website anyway?

If you can see what's on the radio, then isn't it actually a TV?

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"Why would a radio station need a website anyway?"

"Why would a radio station need a website anyway?"

Presumably this is obvious, but this is Radio 3 in the UK.

[1] It plays all sorts of stuff in long chunks to schedule. This means that people like to be able to look up what going to be played, or when a discussion programme is due.

[2] When it has a snippets programme, people often use the website to check the playlist . I set my mother's browser up to have the R3 playlist on the bookmark toolbar, and she used to impress her friends (she's in her 70s) by being able to fire up the computer, press a button and tell them exactly which Bruckner symphony they were listening to. (With Bruckner you need to be told - they all sound the same.)

[3] It's the website through which you can get to the Radio 3 iPlayer, to catch up on the late night prom you missed, (which was actually why I got a call from my mother saying - what's all this warning about).

[4] There are also things like extra programme notes for the concerts, the complete schedule for the Proms links to other resources.

Does that answer your question?

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They the same false call on another website I visit.

And its a pig to turn off. Yep, I know you think this site is a risk, but if I click OK once, stop telling me about it on every page I visit on there.

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Stop

It could be an ad

Remember that many BBC pages carry advertising if you visit them from outside the UK, infected banner ads are a common source of infection.

I do tend to trust Google's malware warning, this one is very specific and does link back to a known black hat network.

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I agree with Conrad

... but not having a US proxy to test it on, I can't tell, but it seems likely, and explains why UK-based tests fail to spot anything wrong. But why would the BBC carry advertising in any event, even for overseas visitors?

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Anonymous Coward

No it isn't

Coming from a UK netblock from home, it does it, hittoing the bbc.co.uk servers without the commercial page furniture.

(People who want to see the difference can turn on "turbo mode" in opera, which makes you like like An Foreign[tm])

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FAIL

Over Protective.

A friends site got an infected ad in about 2006, Google STILL insist the site is not safe.

Note that ONE ad FOUR years ago; there have been no reports since, yet Google STILL block the site.

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You need to log into Google to get it cleared.

My own site got attacked at the beginning of last year - some SQL problem (I think) on one of the shared hosts splattered iframe garbage all over the hosted sites on that machine. Not my fault, but took me down.

I deleted all the HTML/PHP/JS, waited a week (for the rest of the server to be tidied and holes patched), uploaded from backups, logged into Google as a web admin, dropped a specific file into my website root to show I had full access to the site. Requested a re-evaluation of my site.

Two days later, the warning was gone.

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Bootnote: Kinda amusing that a site appears to have been nobbled for years thanks to a tainted advert. There could be a warning here about the value of third party advertising and was the greed (how much do NORMAL people get paid for allowing this junk in their site?) worth it in the end?

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And

you trust Google Why??

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Headmaster

That's Brahms and Liszt

[puts away red pen]

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WTF?

Censorship??

Hmm!! Curioius, can't go the bbc radio 3 website with firefox but works fine when using Chrome, has it got built in protection?

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Joke

oh my

Oh my, all two of their listeners will be horrified! Oh, Sorry, I forgot, only 50% of their audience uses the internet, and it was him who discovered it!

I'm joking! Calm down! They actually have three listeners as I sometimes tune in when I can't sleep! That's why its called Radio "Three" you know!

Quite a lot of exclamation marks in this post isint there!

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Must be a Firefox thing...

...cos it works fine in Opera.

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They must be sick of listening to Brahms' Third Racket

It's Brahms!.... Brahms' Third Racket

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Chrome is...

... giving me the block notice too.

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I'm in EU and google warns me!

Quote/ Google Reported Attack Diagnostic page for bbc.co.uk/radio3 at 15h33 BST on Thursday

What is the current listing status for bbc.co.uk/radio3?

Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this website may harm your computer.

Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 2 time(s) over the past 90 days.

What happened when Google visited this site?

Of the 15 pages that we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 4 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time that Google visited this site was on 2010-09-09, and the last time that suspicious content was found on this site was on 2010-09-09.

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My quick & dirty analysis of bbc.co.uk/radio3 is that content was aimed at me by BBC.co.uk and BBCimg.co.uk

and by REVSCI.net and by QUANTSERVE.com and by SCORECARDRESEARCH.com.

Now I wonder which of the 5 content servers is compromised?

REVSCI.net is "audience Science"

QUANTSERVE.com is "ad impressions" <------I guess BADverts come from here!???

SCORECARDRESEARCH.com is 'Market Research"

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Anonymous Coward

doesn't matter....

I block all three of them...

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Mahlerware

Must be because they push so much Mahlerware.

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Anonymous Coward

Ad nanner?

So if it's an ad banner that's causing the problem why isn't this Google "service" capable of blocking the ad banner rather than the whole page. Oh, that's right, because it's Google and therefore shit.

Or to look at it another way could it be that Google will block an entire site which carries infected ads for as long as possible if those ads aren't Google sourced. Bet it doesn't happen with Google sourced ads.

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another one on working mums

www.workingmums.co.uk also has a malware warning on google. Maybe they're the wrong kind of working mums or working mums "gone bad"?

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Working as a team without anyone noticing?

This is getting really interesting as Microsoft are taking down botnets for a living and Google are sweeping up attack sites to protect more people from becoming botnets.

When is apple going to get involved?

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It was an annoyance ...

because all other browsers (Opera, Firefox, Epiphany, Safari, etc) were quite happy but Chrom(ium) resolutely refused to have anything to do with Radio 3.

OK. That's one less browser to worry about, then. Pity, because I quite liked its minimalism, speed and standards compliance.

I see it has now (just as arbitrarily) decided to go to Radio 3 but its too late. Damage done. Bye bye Chrome. This sort of social engineering in software disgusts me.

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Anonymous Coward

All forums/blogs are now vulnerable to troll takedowns

Just post an image from any of the supposedly malware ridden sites and you get blacklisted immediately. I went through this the other night and the "malware" was a picture of Harry from Harry and the Hendersons.

as if there aren't enough ways for cranks to get their jollies or users to get panicked.

ffs!

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