Tard

No. It's never about swapping boyfriends. It's always about swapping girlfriends. This is the puzzle piece you have been missing.

@John Dee

I seem to remember a really famous show a while back. Sex something something city...seemed pretty big on the objectification of men to me. I'd say such thigns go both ways.

Benny Hill a TV classic?

But you've (all) missed the point.

You know when you go to a Jim Davidson gig, that it's going to be sexist, racist crap, and presumably you're going there because that's the sort of unfunnies you like.

Bit of a difference between that and having to walk past posters of Chalky White on every street corner.

I look forward to the day when every other advert features a nine inch man handle and you all slowly start to understand that feminism might have a point.

nine inch man handles

Do you honestly think that adverts featuring nine inch man handles are going to teach sexist men a lesson? I think you'll find women objecting to such ads in the name of "feminism" while the men jeer and laugh.

Anyway, these are all trivial issues. A more serious issue is that it is still extremely difficult in this country for a woman to have children and a career in most professions. Censoring language in advertisements isn't going to solve that problem.

The really stupid part is...

"I look forward to the day when every other advert features a nine inch man handle and you all slowly start to understand that feminism might have a point."

The really stupid part is that most *men* wish they weren't like that. I, for one, am sick of being advertised to as if I were a knuckle-dragging ape, or ten years old. Look at any Gillette advert - they talk to men as if we're all one step above protoplasm.

Ug. Me man. Me want shag woman. Me buy razor. Ug ug oooh, aaagh!

Most guys (or at least most guys I know) wish advertisers would stop with this crap. Oh look, tits, yes very good. I have seen those before, you know...

Re: A more serious issue

> Anyway, these are all trivial issues. A more serious issue is that it is still extremely

> difficult in this country for a woman to have children and a career in most professions

Really? I know loads of women with children who also have successful careers. What is nigh-on impossible is for a man to stay at home and look after his children. Women get statutory maternity leave. Men do not.

Re: It's depressing

Perhaps it isn't worth allowing comments on Bootnotes items.

and that would bother you why?????

whats wrong with manhandles? Or are you saying it would bother you?

@Sarah

You guys get a nice day, and you send all the grey, miserable rain striaght here. *grumble grumble*

Why the AC?

> Do you honestly think that adverts featuring nine inch man handles are going to teach sexist men

> a lesson?

No.

> I think you'll find women objecting to such ads in the name of "feminism" while the men jeer and

> laugh.

All of which is nothing more than a little window into your view of feminism. And nothing more.

Doomed to fail.

Most of them don't get much opportunity to show any body parts to women ...

Self-inflicted

A fair request, but mix these three ingredients in any measure you like and what would you imagine the result would be?

i) The usual level of comment for a bootnotes article

ii) An article about double-entendre and sexual inuendo...

iii) ...and the people that complain about such things.

@ John Dee

I rather think that whatever woman you've got up on that pedestal (it's not your mother is it? Please, tell me it's not your mother?!) is so high up that she's got no chance of seeing anything you might show her either.

Lighten up.

Men like adverts that show women as attractive

Women like adverts that show men are incapable of cleaning the house/looking after the kids/breathing - or adverts about women in white trousers who jump out out of aeroplanes cause they are wearing a sanitary towel.

It's a bit of fun, no one is suggesting anything other than that, but you're over-reacting.

if only

If only there was someone whose job it was to keep the idiots from posting that sort of thing.

Special Treatment

@Sarah: Very nearly everyone seems to demand special treatment at some point. Individually or as part of various groups.

@Entire world: If you get uppity when one specific group (we'll say Women as is the topical case,) ask for special treatment but not others, then yes, you are a racist/sexist/other flavour of bigot. The measure of a society isn't or group isn't in how many or which groups ask for special treatment, but how we balance the instinctual desires that everyone has to be treated better than others against the needs of all people to be treated as equally as circumstances allow.

To ask for special treatment is normal and human. To actually treat one group or individual as superior to others is unconscionable, regardless of which group or individual it is.

Also: Asking not to be treated like a disposable piece of meat is not asking for special treatment. It’s asking for a minimum standard of common courtesy and respect. So shoo and vamoose to all the haters and the griefers.

Try Again

> I rather think that whatever woman you've got up on that pedestal (it's not your mother is it?

> Please, tell me it's not your mother?!) is so high up that she's got no chance of seeing anything

> you might show her either.

Sorry? I'm less than comfortable with the sea of tits and ass that is modern culture and that means means I have mother issues? Perhaps, I'm just not built like you are, and value the opinions and feelings of most of the women I know over my own petty urge to empty my nuts and tell the word about it.

> Men like adverts that show women as attractive

Don't point your "men" at me. Perhaps jiggling boobs help you decide whether you want to buy something or not. How's that working out for you?

>Women like adverts that show ...

People like adverts? Yeah, your entire argument is kinda flawed isn't it.

> It's a bit of fun, no one is suggesting anything other than that, but you're over-reacting.

Er ... lots of people suggest it is something other than that. Just not most commentards, who, I might add, get noticeably sweaty and pointless the moment breasts or lesbians are mentioned. And how can a comment on El Reg be considered overreacting to anything? I'm writing this response whilst waiting for the ads to finish ...

Selling breakfast cereal

I don't think it would change my wife's purchasing habits. The only thing that would make her buy a different brand of breakfast cereal would be if you could find her one that is even cheaper. In any case, 9" is less that what she's used to ...

NIMBYs??

WTF?

@Richard Jukes

Bridge too far man. That lady puts up with assloads of crap from all across the internet and deserves way more respect than that. Yes, Sarah is a remarkably attractive woman. No, that doesn't mean you get to objectify her. I am not exactly a flame-breathing feminist, but I'd GLADLY make you eat that request sir.

For shame.