Broadcasters can charge people for TV text message votes received after voting has closed as long as the closing time is made clear to viewers, premium rate phone regulator PhonepayPlus (PPP) has said. The regulator has updated rules (pdf) introduced in 2008 as a wave of phone vote scandals rocked the television industry. It …
Fine for phone-ins
but I don't control what time my SMS messages arrive at their destination.
Call me cynical ......
...but why dont they just kill the line when the voting closes?
Aha, just spotted the flaw in this plan, they'd not make any money of the stupid and gullible.
I'd like them to publish some figures
How much revenue do these text votes generate?
Also those pi$$ easy text competitions on channel 5 etc, how much do they earn off them?
Why can't they close the receiving device?
Clients of ours have SMS bulk terminals and when they close for the day they close the terminals down.
Messages sent after close down are bounced, with a message indicating failure, for which no charge is made.
This is similar to a call that doesn't complete - no talk, no charge.
A show that invites me pay money to text in data.....
....is no show I'm ever going to watch.
How dificult is it?
Why can't the phone lines or other media be effectively disconnected at the appointed hour, possibly with a nice user friendly message similar to the ubiquitous "all our operators are busy - so piss off" message. This seems to technically possible in some circumstances and removes the problem.
The lines should stop responding altogether (and, therefore, stop charging) as soon as the competition closes.
Anything else is extortion, plain and simple.
A bit strong
I agree that they should stop charging when the competition closes. But I am not sure it would class as extortion.
" The rules now say that phone lines can stay open during repeats as long as the votes received will still be counted."
So when they repeat Crap-factor et-all, in 18 months time, the winner wont be the winner if all of a sudden thousands of people decide to vote for another act?
Or am i just awake yet???
I guess this refers to the ITV1+1 broadcast, or the mid-week repeat, if the results are going to be announced in next week's show. Doesn't apply to the X-Factor, but it could apply to other shows.
@"close the lines"
That works fine for britain's got dancing on idols where the phone lines only exist for that show, but what about (as an example) Real Radio doing a vote using their existing phone line? calls/texts won't be counted for the vote but they still need the lines open for song requests etc. Not sure if any TV shows would have this format, but you see the point. The regulation has to be good for EVERYONE.
Can you gouge me now?
How about now?
Still haven't had enough...let's try once more.
People who call those lines...
...etc. oh you know, the usual...
THE GADGET SHOW for one.
Costs quite a lot of money to text or call for a chance to win every gadget they've played with in that series. And winner collects, I suspect, from the skip round the back. Maybe not.
In two minds
Part of me thinks that voting in these shows should be free (usual network charges apply) which might deter the programme makers from churning out so much formulaic rubbish. And part of me thinks if the daytime-tv-tards want to pay extra to "interact" with this dross, well screw 'em!
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