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Google is testing a new incarnation of its search engine that rejiggers results pages as you type, according to a video captured by a UK-based SEO. The company did not immediately respond to a request for comment. But judging from the video, Google refers to this as "streaming" search. As you key new characters into the search …

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Why make the search page busier than it is now?

It's distracting enough watching the "suggestions" constantly change. I really don't want to be forced to watch the whole page dance around while I'm typing.

I know what I am looking for when I start typing. This proposed feature should have an OFF option. Implementation of this proposed feature without an opt-out would result in a bigger outcry than the whole mismanaged "Buzz" introduction.

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Re: Why make the search page busier than it is now?

KDE has been doing this for a while on its application, email, and desktop search.

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You do know that ...

... you can disable search suggestions, don't you? Just go to settings and turn it off.

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Account?

This would require an account with Google. That's a security issue right there...

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@"distracting enough watching the "suggestions" constantly change"

Distracting isn't half the problem! ... it could be down right bloody scary with some searches. For example imagine if you are looking for somewhere in Cockfosters! (in North London). I sure as hell wouldn't like to see the suggestions on that as I type!

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@ Why make...

Agreed, though it does have an opt-out (click text on top right of page).

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Not to my benefit

This is going to make it really hard to do a serious search. Also, will less capable computers and connections be able to keep up? I wonder how the huge number of dialup users in North America and elsewhere are going to like this.

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Google search

If you want to do "serious search":

a) why use Google?

b) if you must, then try google.co.uk/advanced_search, it's not perfect for all searches, but it beats the basic page without having to type all kinds of modifiers into the search box

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God, NO!

This is probably going to be as big a bomb as that "custom wallpaper" background they had a few months ago, and I can already picture the phone calls/e-mails from people "this Google thing has gone crazy, what's wrong with it?"

I don't need or want to have Google redoing the search for every letter I type, although I imagine "teh" will become a very popular search term. Did they test this idea at all? Are there really that many people who would use this type of "search?"

Why not make a topic list on the right, so rather than doing searches it would take common search terms against an index of click-throughs and pull up a sidebar list of "Are you looking for..." and rather than just matching keywords it would actually give a list of links to recipes or magazine articles or whatever. That would be much more useful.

Google: The New Microsoft.

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"Did they test this idea at all?"

Did you read the article at all?

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It appears he didn't even read the title.

"Google tests 'streaming' search engine"

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Google ads

Does google get paid per ad click, per ad shown, or a combination of both?

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Per click

That's why it's called pay per click ;)

That said, the quality score of an ad is partially dependent of the click through rate i.e. clicks versus impressions, so as an Adwords account manager I do wonder if this will make my impression numbers go through the roof, with many of them having no chance of a click!

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In the minority

Looks like I'm in the minority. I think it could be useful, *BUT* it would have to be optional...

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Alien

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Scroogle

...ftw.

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Isn't Scroogle dead?

It just redirects to Google...

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Maybe they ARE going into mobile phones again..

.. given that this sort of stuff nicely wastes bandwidth. The untold story with mobile bandwidth is that the real heavy users typically travel, for which there are NO unlimited plans available anywhere on the globe.

It's the equivalent of the con trick mobile phone companies play on you with voicemail: the real reason the "hello" message is so extensively helpful is that it makes it more likely you will go beyond the one minute barrier, so any voicemail always gives them two minutes without them having to supply two minutes' worth of resources for it. Multiply that by their call volume and you're talking about millions being earned by appearing unavoidably "helpful"..

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Meh - How is this useful?

You could call it an extension of google suggest. I would call it a massive and perhaps pointless bloat of google suggest.

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Why?

So if I search for football it searches for 'foo' first? If I search for scunthorpe it searches for 'scunt' first? Butter searches for Butt?

Not sure I see the point. Partial word searches make no sense.

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True to form...

Nice one Google. I had a feeling there would be further "improvements" after the fine job you made of your image search.

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ditto

Hate the freaking new images search !!

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Mr Metz, WTF?

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Rather than just suggesting possible searches as you type, it's suggesting entire results pages.

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So instead of showing possible completions from a cache of popular searches, they are showing possible completions from a cache of possible searches with there cached results. I still don't understand why "Christianity is Stupid" doesn't appear on Google completion lists even though it is the top Wikipedia result on a search for "Christianity is." (Maybe google hates public domain music, and invites the record labels to fuck them harder?)

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add a title

I just turn off suggestions. Hate them

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"They want Google to tell them what they should be doing next."

Do they really?

That's a bit like saying that people want BMW to tell them where they should be driving next. No one wants that. Stop making things up Eric you bullshit merchant.

As for "streaming search" I think there are applications for which it will be good and applications for which it will be bad. The key, I suspect, will be to make switching between that and regular search as easy and seamless as possible.

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If that's what he wanted...

...then an Amazon-like "other people's next search" would be a more efficient solution.

So maybe he only looking to bump up revenue as you click your way out of the confusion.

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Search

Bah humbug

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All your data are belong to us...faster than ever now.

Meh. So I guess this means they can now track you faster too. LOL!

I found a search engine that doesn't track users and it works. So meh Google is meh.

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share ?

which search engine would that be ?

I am looking for something that could replace google but did not find anything remotely useful at the moment.

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Share

You could try the well known Scroogle Scraper (http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm) which is just an anonimized Google query.

Ixquick (http://ixquick.com/) it's another pretty decent option. Their results aren't half bad for most queries.

No "evil Google" icon and no hope of getting one, but the Big Brother will work...

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Ok...well less fancy but it always seems to find what I want..

"ixquick" is one and their other is "startpage", www.startpage.com

It's the only one I know of that is also fighting the EU Parliament mandating data retention of users. ixquick and startpage just don't track you.

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Google toolbar* has been doing this forever

*Yes, I know.

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Ha, ha, ha

Poor Google, every time Schmidt talks it sounds creepy:

"I actually think most people don't want Google to answer their questions," CEO Eric Schmidt recently told The Wall Street Journal. "They want Google to tell them what they should be doing next."

Read that in an evil voice and add a cackle.

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Could lead to embarrassment...

...about halfway through a search for "analytic", for example.

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oh dear

So the next time I do a search for 'analytics' I'm going to be getting a call from IT and a registered letter from HR....

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I like it!

Honestly darling, I was trying to look up 'Porboys' and hit the 'n' by mistake. Before I could do anything about it Google had filled the screen with porn sites.

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Re: I like it!

You probably didn't even do anything as bad as that. You were looking up Porboys, and google autocompleted it to porn and filled the screen with porn sites.

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Big Security risk!

Google prefetches the first result automatically in the background, so I don't see this new streaming search engine as a good idea.

Imagine the amount of carefully positioned links containing Malware your PC would download as a result of you typing different words.

Definitely a NO NO NO for me......

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I think there is a point

The point is not that it searches for foo when you try to search for football. I'm sure they would also have a timeout period so that if you type normally it would not do that.

I see the benefit in that you can quickly see the results and change your query. There are many times when one has to try different queries to see what results are the best, and this is much faster than typing the first query <enter> checking results <click in search box> type second query <enter> etc.

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Uhoh...

Let's hope you have SafeSearch on when you're looking for an Analyst...

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WTF?

Sod off google

Tell me what I should be doing next?

Yeh because I really can't think for myself.

Google are turning into a right arrogant buch of f*ckwits.

This better be an opt-in feature if it ever gets rolled out, otherwise I'm off to Bing.

Oh and anyone else think the speed of those results updates was just a little too quick? - test it when you're not sat next to your datacentre please.

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"Tell me what I should be doing next?" Yes please!

Of, Reg-readers don't want to be told, but Google-usage has reached the masses, and from all my personal experiences and my understanding of history, the masses want to be told exactly that. It's really sad, but not without merit.

As long as it remains an offer one can refuse, this might still end well somehow, no?

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Google results are quick

Because they have data-centres all over the place. You are redirected to your local DC every time you query. Google also BGP peer with many ISPs, they use advanced file systems and I know they are using low-latency switching gear (Astaro Networks), so what makes you think it will be noticeably worse for anyone connected to a decent ISP with decent infrastructure? My queries are almost instant, though I do meet my own criteria - I run the ISP backbone, I peer with Google in two countries and their DC is no more than 3 miles from my house.

What do you think they are gonna do? Come and test their algorithms from your house?

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In other news

Goggle forced to announce they are *testing* a new style of search, and a hatload of Regtards go completely off their nuts whinging about it.

In other other news. Rest of world lets Google get on with testing stuff in case it's any good. Regatrds heads explode.

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if this is implemented it will be a real case..

of too much information !

and a bandwidth thief to boot..

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I like

This already happens on many desktop search tools and I've found it useful there. I'd be happy to see them intorduce this, quicker and easier searching.

Only downside I can see to this is for people on slow connections may have issues with the real time updates. Hopefully they put this into the main search page as an opt-in, that will appease the whining bitches and I get to use the useful update.

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I predict...

...that Google will be the uncrowned king of search queries!

Number-wise, that is. Just imagine: "G" is the first search query, "Go" is the second search query, "Goo" is another search query, "Goog" is search query # 4, "Googl" is #5, "Google" is #6, dunno whether the space counts, "Google i" is #7, "Google id" #8, "Google idi" is #9, "Google idio" is #10, "Google idiot" is #11, and -hoorah!- "Google idiots" is search query #12.

11 fake queries and just one genuine query. This will BOOST the number of search queries big time.

As always: Google? Fail.

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Well I'm quite impressed

It's just a test! Proof of concept. Doesn't mean they'd deploy it, and I'd imagine it'd be optional. Will probably mean in increase in the bandwidth used while searching, and would require more horsepower on the back end as the database is constantly scanning it's indexes based on the new key words as they appear - so there's a "cost" to both the user and to Google. Would make no sense to make it compulsory, and wouldn't be used on low bandwidth pages like the mobile search.

Worrying as Google are, you've got to hand it to them - they just batter away at producing betas of ideas, and every now and then some of them prove to be incredibly useful. This probably isn't one of them, but still a neat little trick, there's no need to reflexively shout it down like Pavlov's dogs just because it happens to be google doing it.

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Google is not the only search engine...

I tend to use Yippy (which seems to have rebranded itself from Clusty for no apparent reason other than to muck up its tag line of "The Clustering Search Engine") if I'm actually _searching_, rather than just looking up a page I know exists. http://search.yippy.com/

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Not to say "I thought of that" but...

I had tried to implement this exact functionality a few months ago using a Greasemonkey Userscript. Google blocked the requests after each keystroke because they occurred too fast. I guess a Google search every half-second raised a red flag.

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