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There were red faces at the Indonesian parliament this week after miscreants somehow managed to stream a porn video through an internal TV channel. Officials apparently struggled to turn off the smut stream from an adult website for 15 minutes before finally restoring control. The incident came in the run-up to the proposed …

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Happy

lulz

Who to blame for this (extremely) funny prank? *hat tip* to them.

btw, the crazy fundies need to get a grip, when it comes to pr0n.

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@Chris

I think you'll find that the "crazy fundies" ,or "people with morals" as they prefer to be called, don't like anyone gripping anything when it somes to porn.

Also isn't strange that they are crazy fundamentlists, but you're so embaressed by a four letter word you have to deliberately mistype it.

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Morals?

Which group are you suggesting has morals, and which do not?

Are you suggesting people with religious belief have stronger/better morals than those who don't subscribe to the idea of a big sky fairy?

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Unhappy

just as a point of order...

" the crazy fundies need to get a grip"

There are certainly some pretty strict isolated areas of Indonesia and a couple of Islamist parties with representation in the People's Representative Council, but Indonesia is not a fundamentalist country, citizens have a right to practice their own religion (a right which isn't always respected in practice, to be fair) and some areas of Indonesia are majority non-Muslim (like Bali, of course). Some people reckon the fundamentalists are being rolled back now that the 9/11 and Iraq indignation among the youth is subsiding...a bit, and the clerics are alienating their audience: http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2250&Itemid=202

But the point is that it's not online prawn that's necessarily the main concern here - there is widespread censorship of the arts and media in many respects, particularly if the content looks like it might rock the boat by discussing Suharto-era abuses by the military or modern-day corruption. http://www.ahrchk.net/statements/mainfile.php/2010statements/2472

Equally, you don't have to be a theocracy or a fundamentalist state to <3 censorship and expensive firewalls - just ask Australia, Dubai or China!

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@Morals

I think that as you feel the need to mock anyone who has any sort of religious belief as a sky fairy worshiper, shows that you think that they stronger moral code that those that don't. Disagree with thier moral code and religious beliefs by all means, but don't belittle them. Anyone who is able to maintain the practice of any faith under the pressures of modern society should be applauded, and not labelled as fundamentalist\extremists just because you don't agree with them. Labeling people as "crazy fundies" just because you don't like\agreed\understand them is what fuels the real extremists.

As for better, well that's a little more subjective.

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Pint

A plague of fundies

As I recall, Indonesian fundies engage in flogging for beer, and Aussie bombing. Surely those must count for something when the discussion turns to the superior morality of the religious.

Malt does more than Milton can, to justify God's Ways to Man

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wrong

Why does every person with a religious belief only believe people who believe in a "sky fairy" can have morals and/or have stronger morals than people who don't?

When you look at the history of religion a lot of illegal, unethical and disturbing actions have been taken by followers of a structured religion who believed they were right in what they were doing.

I have strong sense of morality but I'm agnostic, I belittle such "sky fairy" worshippers because most will try to impose their morality on others with little proof such morality will be beneficial to the people they try to impose those beliefs on.

Such people shouldn't be applauded they should be belittled, look at the war on drugs. Proffessor Nutt suggests government policy isn't based on scientific evidence and is actually doing more harm than good and he's sacked while the politician sticks his fingers in his ears and humms "I believe I'm right". I should point out I've never smoked or taken non-prescribed drugs, I just try to have an open mind.

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Very wrong

When you look at the history a lot of illegal, unethical and disturbing actions have been taken by

people with no religious beliefs, because they thought they were right in what they were doing

People of faith find themseleves belittled by people who want to impose their secular morality

on others with little proof such morality will be beneficial to the people they try to impose those beliefs on.

Proffessor Nutt suggests government policy isn't based on scientific evidence and is actually doing more harm than good and he's sacked, whilst the politician looks at a calender realising that there is an election coming up and doesn't want to do anything that might lose the middle England\Daily Mail\Daily Express\Law & Order vote.

I should point out I've never smoked or taken non-prescribed drugs.

I just try to have an open mind.

Having different set moral values is fine, disagreeing about what is morally right and wrong is a good thing, dismissing people out of hand because you can find some convient label to attach to them has all the hallmarks of a very closed mind, no doubt an attribute that you would ascribe to any person of any faith .

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15 days....

If the same happened here it would take them 15 months of studying, meetings and research before it got taken down.

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Sir

Just goes to show,

Where there's a will(y)

There's a way(y)

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titular titley bit

Sir Runcible, me old china

Surely you mean:

Where there's a will(y), There's a wa(he)y?

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Paris Hilton

Smut

Funny, it took me 15 minutes of struggling to turn my porn flick off the other night. Coincidence?

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Stop

RTFM

You must be doing something wrong, mines always off within two.

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Happy

RTFM?

Are man pages classified as extreme porn? After all, grepping could sound pretty extreme to the ignorant (i.e. those making the laws ;-).

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Paris Hilton

'pulled off to launch the muck-attack'

Very good.

Paris, obnov.

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Grenade

Democracy in action

I hate what you're showing me, but defend to the death your right to show it.

ps That's your death, by the way

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why block it

Surely a devout Moslem wouldn't dream of looking for smut on the internet, so that only leave the people affectionately referred to as 'infidels' that would be affected by it.

So this is basically about forcing people to keep to their religious tenants, which they should do anyway if they really believed in it, and restricting the freedoms of people who don't follow that religion. Just goes to show how progressive they are!

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Re: why block it

You meant 'tenets'.

The rest of you - I've immediately and simulataneously thought of all possible permutations of the joke on 'religious tenants', and none of them are funny, so don't bother.

Besides it's nowhere near as good as the berk the other week who thought 'disciples' was spelt 'decibels'.

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re: Tenets

You meant "simultaneously".

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Re: why block it

Or the 'O' level Biology examination paper we found on which the student had put 'All human life on earth orginated from tiny orgasms'. Which whilst technically correct, and possibly OK as a comment on this article, probably wasn't quite what was intended.

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Unwritten rule #72 of the internet

If you correct someone's spelling/grammar, you will make a mistake in your own response.

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I beg to differ

"..all possible permutations of the joke on 'religious tenants', and none of them are funny.."

That would be an ecumenical matter. Yes.

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It is written...

and it's called Muphry's law.

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Dead Vulture

Check this!

Grammar nazis must always simulataneously use a spellchecker.

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Muphry's law

God bless ol'Muphry

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After 14 mins of group masturbation...

... someone found the remote and turned the TV off?

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Big Brother

re:After 14 mins of group masturbation...

You can never find the remote. They are the like parking inspectors and Police.

Always there when you don't need them, but not when you do.

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Pint

Superb!

Typically not a big fan of activist taking the main stage like that, (Greenpeace closing petrol stations?? idjits.), but that is just brilliant, definitely tip my hat to those folk who embarrassed the hell of the government for implementing stupidity.

/rubbish joke start

Would ask them to join me in a celebatory beer but guess they are muslims, oh well more for me :)

/end

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Protest

So one protest is bad because it inconveniences you, and the other is good because it inconveniences someone else?

This is a great way to decide everything! As long as I'm in charge, of course.

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Boffin

Re: religious tenants

Fret not Ms Bee, I'm not the kind for low-rent humour.

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WTF?

What do Indonesia, Australia, Britain and China have in common?

Narrow minded twits who still haven't learned that it is extremely hard to stop mankind achieving it's goals or censoring the InterNet.

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What do Indonesia, Australia, Britain and China have in common?

Re: Australia, make that narrow minded government. Last survey I saw was 96% of the population opposed to the filter...

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Coat

Religious tenants?

So mentioning that priests take their authority from a Hire Power is right out then?

Oh damn...

(PS. @ITWillSaveTheWorld - a beer is out, but a shandy may be an option. Of the hand-pulled variety.)

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Big Brother

Wouldn't you know it

"The filter would begin with pornography and would later be expanded to other undesirable sites."

(from the linked-to article)

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This would never happen here..

..an internal TV channel in the Palace of Westminster?

I suppose they do have Black Rod, though..

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