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Canadian flyboy Captain Brian Bews had a narrow escape last Friday when his CF-18 Hornet decided to give up the ghost during a practice run at an airshow at Lethbridge airport in Alberta. Bews' injuries following his low-level ejection were described as "non-life threatening", although he's probably lost his no-claims bonus, …

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Copyright?

Funny how we can't see the video of a canadian plane crashing in canada, on copyright grounds from CNN.

Says we can't see the video from Canada on copyright grounds ...

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Ooops...

That certainly qualifies as an "oops".

However, it's a graphic demonstration of a low level, low speed ejection, and an ejection seat doing exactly what it's designed to do. I'm very pleased that the pilot was able to get out of this without any major injuries.

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I...

...don't believe he wanted to do that...

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Stall, stall allmighty stall

At the point shown in the video the airplane has obviously stalled. With a stall that close to the ground he is very lucky to be alive.

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What's this thing coming towards me very fast?...

...Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding word like... ow... ound... round... ground! That's it! That's a good name - ground! I wonder if it will be friends with me.

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Try...

...writing your own material.

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LOL -

Funny - I still have the original LP from 30 years ago.

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Fit the First.

I recorded the radio series when it was first broadcast. the tapes died many years ago unfortunately.

I imagine the LP must be a treasured posession for you.

"Oh no not again!" as the Petunias would say.

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In other news...

Well, we're not allowing you to see this.

"This video contains content from CNN (Europe), who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

bah!

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CNN (Europe)Copyright What! This is happen in my own Country

All excited to watch the video only to be greet with CNN (Europe)Copyright What! This is happen in my own Country, CNN should be paying Canada for the rights to broadcast.

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Now we will have to start saving all our bottle caps again

They will start pull tab and bottle top collections all over the country to scrape enough money to buy another toy for the cash strapped military.

How many caps will that be Coke and Pepsi?

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cannot read in europe. gah,

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Video blocked

Youtube says: This video contains content from CNN (Europe), who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Huh. What is it exactly that makes CNN block a video in some countries, but not others?

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clearly more practicve required. Let's hope they don't stop it out of his salary.

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Lewis?

And Lewis suggests Britain should dump the Typhoon entirely and purchase a load of F18s?!?

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I'm impressed......

....that they allowed him to do it three times!

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LIke Independence Day

With top quality SFX like that they're not just going to show it once!

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What?

"gave up the ghost"? Nothing wrong with that plane at all, he just bloody stalled it at an altitude of about 100 feet. All his fault.

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WTF?

Let the Canuck-baiting commence!

Oh wait, it already has...

Seriously though, ordinarily these McDD jets are, arguably, the most capable combat jet type currently in service -- reliable as hell, too -- and certainly aren't known for lawn-darting.

There was no obvious sign that anything had gone awry (aside from the subsequent massive fireball...) and it's a twin-engine type so... ? Strange.

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That will leave a scratch.

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How not to do it

It looks like a classic spin entry to me, just not nearly high enough.

He was mushing on the edge of a stall (look at all that up elevator) and applied aileron to stop the wing drop. As the nose comes past head-on you can see that the outer aileron is up!

It looks like he flew a classic spin entry to me, just not nearly high enough.

He was a lucky boy, though - another second and he'd have ejected downward. As it was he barely had enough height for the chute to open.

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Headline options

Pilot screws pooch.

CF18 unable to recover from airshow manoever.

Lucky escape for pilot.

Ejector seat works perfectly.

So many ways to spin the same story. Take your pick...

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Normally

Normally I get a bit bored with those people who say things like "you're way behind, this was news last week". However, I think this is getting beyond a joke. All the news sites had this on saturday. Even the blogs that exist on linking to other sites had it on sunday. Maybe sometimes rather than recycling old news it's best just to admit that you missed the boat and let it go.

Or maybe not.

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We build these things, whaddaya mean we can't watch????

"This video is blocked from your area (USA) by CNN Europe on copyright grounds."

Fine - we'll just visit you with a few dozen of these things in proper working order, and we'll see if you can block that.

F'n regional news indeed. I thought only Uncle Sam managed the news . . .

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Fortunate angle...

Just as well the plane wasn't horizontal when he ejected, or he would have been well and truly toasted landing in that fireball.

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Indeed

It's almost like he knew how and when all was lost and when the last moment to pull an ejection handle was... Almost like he was a trained pilot.. ;-P

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Not just training.

There's also the spectre of the desk job in there encouraging any pilot who likes flying to keep the bloody thing in the air until it becomes blatantly obvious that it ain't staying there.

I once knew an RAF Squadron Leader who ended up flying a desk. Dunno about the Canucks, but he told me that the RAF operate (or certainly did back then) a strict "three strikes" policy on bangouts. The reason is that the pyro pack that accelerates the ejection seat intially also imparts a fair degree of spinal compression in doing so. The thinking is/was that a pilot can only withstand three of these before his lumbar vertebrae give up the ghost.

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Wee bit too slow?

Looks like he might've wanted to up the throttle a notch or two, as it looked like a lack of airflow over the wings leading to the dipping of one wing (at least, that's how it seems to my amateur eyes). Pilot error or engines deciding not to give him enough thrust?

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Go ability to use English language

Of course, I could've been a wee bit less poncy and said "stall" like everyone else.

I blame anyone and anything but myself.

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video DCMAd

Can you replace the youtube video with a cnn.eu video? or any of the other news orgs that have it.

btw, he stalled it.

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Nobody hurt, thats good

When I worked at Intel they would have air shows over the parking lot.

A brave pilot stood his jet on its tail over head there as well, successfully.

A number of people (myself included) were directly below it about 20 feet off to one side of its vertical, very loud, and very impressive. not so safe, but what the heck... it was great..

My actual comment though was that being in the US I noticed that CNN said that the video was blocked in the US due to Copyright issues. I had to laugh... at the irony and so I left El-reg for a minute to watch it on You tube from about a dozen sources and angles... CNN can go pound sand, "what a bunch of Maroons" (Bugs Bunny) anyway good that the pilot was safe and that there weren't a bunch of yahoos like myself standing underneath it just for the thrill.

:)

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Lucky man

A few degrees later and he'd have been fired into a thin smear of crimson on the tarmac, à la early Harrier ejection systems.

I suspect there was more than a thin smear of brown adrenaline in his flight suit though.

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So why did it happen?

Pity that the information about what went wrong was not included in the article. Otherwise it is just sensation without elucidation...

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Well...

...I think the several month long air crash investigation will answer that.

Unless you want to go for the tabliod style of reporting. Make it up and hope no-one notices when the facts emerge.

(methedrone drug deaths anyone?)

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D'oh!

Low speed, excessive yaw angle leading to stall... Would have developed into a classic flat spin had the ground not intervened already. If he doesn't have a bloody good excuse, that's a pretty basic pilot error.

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Not to be missed

For anyone interested in this genre I'd like to recommend the MiG 29 crash at Le Bourget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL1FblthxQ0

When the engines fail right after take off, he turns and flies straight towards the ground before ejecting, in order to avoid hitting the crowd. Remember hearing that he stood up afterwards without any major injuries, and that he offered to fly the next day.

And, all our-equipment-is-better-than-yours-flames aside, you have to admit that the MiG 29 is aestheticly more pleasing than the F-16.

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Engine out

There are some good still photos of the crash. He was performing a high angle of attack pass, which is a standard airshow demo. Spectators reported that this port engine appeared to be "glowing red hot" but the starboard wasn't. Photos show that the exhaust nozzles were in dramatically different positions as the aircraft stalled and crashed. Perhaps a bird strike? Mechanical failure? The accident report will no doubt unravel the mystery of this flight's last seconds.

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Time and altitude needed

As others have already pointed out, such things need time and altitude to recover from, which he didn't have. But if the root cause was an engine failure of some kind, the "wrong thing" that set up this crash was the planned display routine, and Air Forces are known for older, more senior, pilots checking and approving those plans.

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Yes, it crashed...

I don't need to see it three times to understand.

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Global News Exclusive!

How come two different TV companies have the "Global News Exclusive" on this footage - did one of them forget to lock the mutex?

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Global TV

Global TV is a network here in Canada, so likely the footage was initially exclusive to them.

http://www.globaltv.com/

(they are basically the Canadian version of FOX)

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Martin Baker

Another happy customer of a British aviation company. Don't let Lewis know.

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The tie is on its way

http://www.martin-baker.com/Sub-Navigation/Ejection-Tie-Club.aspx

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Why blame the pilot?

Looks like an engine failure to me. Notice how one nozzle is fully open, but the other fully closed. This would cause the yaw.

Why do people always blame the pilot?

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Regardless of cause

Thankfully he survived and no spectators were injured.

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Stupid.

Yeah, it's frustrating to not be able to watch something because you're in the wrong region. It happens to those of us outside the US all the time. I've stopped reading certain sites because they were always linking to hulu or something, and it was just an exercise in frustration. An outdated business model that doesn't transfer all that well to the internet. Google should take a stand and not allow the option on YouTube. I'm Canadian, so getting the message was pretty funny.

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@Let the Canuck-baiting commence

>ordinarily these McDD jets are, arguably, the most capable combat jet type currently in service

That's the canuck's problem - they have just agreed to buy a gazillion $ worth of the latest US F35.

Which since their only conceivable enemies are a bunch of guys on donkeys and a large country to the south that makes the F35 it's looking a bit difficult to justify - especially when the CF18 is so good.

Looks like they came up with a way to claim on the insurance.

Hands up who hasn't accidentally dropped an old laptop to get a new one.

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>What is it exactly that makes CNN block a video in some countries, but not others?

I used to work at a newspaper.

The AP feed would frequently come in with comments like "No Ecuador" or "No Florida" -- in those cases a paper in Ecuador (or Florida) was keeping the photo exclusive in their home market so local competitors wouldn't run it, but outside their market area it was open for anyone to run. Geographic restrictions were most common, but you'd see other ones from time to time.

Very sophisticated technology was involved...they'd just put the restrictions at the end of the cutline, in all caps if memory serves me right. Used to be fun at lunch to just peruse the photo feed.

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Life Insurance?

The AP video was playing ads for Life Insurance along the bottom of the screen when I watched it! LOL

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Re: Engine Out

I agree it looks like the starboard engine failed during a high alpha manoeuvre, but strangely there is no obvious control surface movement. The fly-by-wire systems should have automatically intervened to counter the yaw from the asymmetric thrust, and reduce the attitude to prevent stalling as the airspeed decreased, even if ultimately there was no longer enough thrust to save the aircraft at that height.

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