back to article Beeb reinstates teaboy in Pestogate scandal

Its fair play to the Beeb this morning as it appears to have brought the Pestogate image scandal to an end by giving El Reg a two-finger salute*: The BBC finally sticks its own photo on the piece Splendid. That's a BBC photo of a BBC building all right, and here for the record are some other photos of BBC buildings not by the …

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Another Pisspoor story from the people

That refuse to publish stories about ACTA in case their own prejudices gets exposed.

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Woah, steady on there,,,

... let's not bring the Alameda Corridor Transportation Authority into this.

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El Reg or the Beeb?

Who are you reffering to?

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Reply to irish donkey

They posted this recent column about ACTA here : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8011895.stm

As a simple google would show (and a few more) - why don't you try their comments board instead of the Reg?

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Sorry should have been clearer

I was referring to el Reg not Auntie.

Other IT website have been talking about the latest criticisms of the ACTA forum by non Freetards.

Of which there hasn't been a mention of on El Reg. So its not that there hasn't been important news to talk about more El Reg doesn't want to talk about that news.

The last article el Reg posted about ACTA was titled 'Software freetard demand axing of ACTA' and was clearly biased. A point which was picked up in the many comments.

El Reg has obviously decided to stay away from controversial stories

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@Irish Donkey

You know, I have to agree with you. I too wish there was more ACTA coverage around here. Andrew O writes the odd article, but I hardly consider him unbiased. It would be nice to have a few different viewpoints offered about what I personally think is one of the single most important topics not only as regards intellectual property (and thus IT,) but sovereignty issues, the nature of democracy and international politics.

I’ll have to join in here and moan a bit about the lack of ACTA coverage ‘round these parts.

In the meantime, I would like to direct you at Dr Michael Geist’s absolutely excellent blog (http://www.michaelgeist.ca/) which covers ACTA (amongst other copyright issues) in extraordinary depth.

It should be pointed out that Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/) also has fantastic ACTA coverage. With the addition of Mary Jo Foley’s (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft) excellent Microsoft Blog, you have Trevor Pott’s personal list of IT related “morning newspapers.”

El Reg has the best all around and overall tech coverage; they most especially fantastic offer gadget, HPC and startup coverage in a balanced, critical and sometimes cynical view that I simply can’t find elsewhere on the net. Let us not also forget that bootnotes are grand; mocking stupid people can sometimes be a bit of a pick me up after a long day of dealing with users. (Does that make me a bad person?)

Ars Technica offers a more balanced view on intellectual property issues, often attacking it from all points of any debate, though they are for all intents and purposes Apple apologists. I find their technical coverage a little lacking, but they make up for it in the absolutely phenomenal science coverage. The Nobel Intent section is heads and shoulders above anything found anywhere else on the net.

Dr Geist’s blog is the most in dept source of intellectual property information I have found on the net that isn’t a legal website. So much so that even Ars often uses him as a source. He is fastidious about linking to his sources, and I consider him one of the premier researchers and authorities on the subject in the world.

Mary Jo Foley is just plain all out awesome, her coverage of Microsoft is something I find critical to my job, as it helps me anticipate the great beast’s movements months if not years ahead of time. Since I still have a lot of Microsoft software deployed, this is great information. So good in fact that El Reg uses her for a source on a number of things.

So there you have it; while I would love to say that my beloved Vulture Central covers everything, there is no tech website I have yet found that manages to do so. Certainly there is none that manages to cover every topic from a number of different angles and viewpoints so as to offer totally well rounded coverage. (The amount of wetware that would take is probably obscene.) Overall I think El Reg is probably the best out there…

…but even this tech news multivitamin requires additional daily supplements.

Hope that helps source some additional coverage!

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Who cares?

'nuff said.

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hang on

what have the Association of Cardiothoracic Anaesthetists ever done to you?

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BBC changes photo on website

Slow news day?

This stopped being funny 2 stories ago.

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How is that free?

How is that a "free image" that you "found" on the internet? It's obvious that google holds the copyright to that image. This story has been a piss poor effort from the start.

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How not to save money

Wouldn't they have had to pay for the publication of each photograph used irrespective of how long it appeared for? So instead of sticking with the original they had to pay three more times, once to PA, again to Getty and I suppose the BBC photo library has a different cost centre so once to them but nothing for the teaboy.

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How not to not save money

No they wouldn't. As the BBC's "two-finger salute" alt text states, they don't pay per use; they have annual agreements with the agencies.

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link back

I love the fact the image on the bbc article now links back to el reg.

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yeah, but no, but yeah

Not wanting to piss on your fireworks or anything, Lester, but the image flip-flopping might have more to do with the comments on Peston's blog than your excellent, timely coverage of this saga.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/06/bbc_removes_gold_plate_from_pe.html#P97766479

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Bite my blue touchpaper

It does link back to The Register from that image so . . .

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Ah...

Hadn't spotted that. And the "two fingered salute" didn't have a footnote when I read the article.

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Lols had all round

No ???

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Hey!

Look at the Thursday lunchtime pic. Have the BBC REALLY got a Bush House?? If so I wanna work there.

Although I'd probably just fanny about all day while my co-workers beaver away on projects...

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Ho Ho

I bet no one has thought of that one in the 70 years the beeb have been there!

It's named after Irving T Bush of the Bush Terminal Company of New York, who opened a trade centre there in the 1920s.

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Yes they do have a Bush House

My Dad worked there for a while in the 70's. They ran the Foreign Service from there (ie shortwave broadcasts aimed at Iron Curtain countries). It was a hotbed of dissident emigres at the time. I don't know what they use it for now, apart from photo-ops.

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a title

What the hell has ACTA - Association of Cardiothoracic Anaesthetists got to do with it?

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Why!!!

When I goto the very article on the BBC and hover my pointer over the pic does it show a link back to el reg?

This is using Chrome.

Am I missing something here, or perhaps just being thick?

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Being thick

Clearly, at least one of the Beeb's webmonkeys reads the Register.

This is called "webmaster humour".

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The alt text is priceless:

"The BBC's news and current affairs programmes and news website have annual agreements with AP, PA, AFP, Allsport and Getty Images for image use. This image has been changed six times at a cost to the licence-fee payer of a few pence in terms of man-hours, which will be made up for in overtime."

So, thanks to El Reg, the teaboy has had to stay late.

All in all, this wasn't a great story, was it?

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<img alt = LOLS

<img alt="The BBC's news and current affairs programmes and news website have annual agreements with AP, PA, AFP, Allsport and Getty Images for image use. This image has been changed six times at a cost to the licence-fee payer of a few pence in terms of man-hours, which will be made up for in overtime."

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Re: img alt = LOLS

Aw shucks, can I be so immodest as to claim they did that in response to my earlier comment.

I suspected they'd have a flat fee agreement but why let that get in the way of a comment. Anyway, the teaboy still needs paying, he didn't even get a credit.

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WTF?

Why the link to Spanish Google?

¿qué carajo

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A few pence

Go on, give us a paypal account to contribute to...

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Hmm

You have to wonder how many meetings this bit of silliness has involved, and how many cross-departmental memos.

Anon as I'm 'public sector' too and know of these things....

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Ahem...using street view images

Google T&C's

Photographic Imagery

"......... You may not use the imagery in any commercial or business environment or for any commercial or business purposes for yourself or any third parties."

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The BBC

Somehow, despite not having watched any TV for the last few days, the BBC have entertained me almost every day this week. Thanks, BBC, and El Reg, for this tremendously funny saga. I have no doubt that "Pestongate: The Costume Drama" will be coming to BBC2 before the end of the year.

(I'll bet Paris has let a few teaboys take pictures...)

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Free image of TV Centre

You found it on Google España?!?

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Pesto banged to rights

- and no mistake

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Bush House and the new photo

Yes, BBC have really got a Bush house, it's the home of BBC World Service.

That new bbc panorama photo seems like something they created using the 'autostitch' application on the iphone (which is actually a very clever little toy)

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read the alt tag, idiots

<img alt="The BBC's news and current affairs programmes and news website have annual agreements with AP, PA, AFP, Allsport and Getty Images for image use. This image has been changed six times at a cost to the licence-fee payer of a few pence in terms of man-hours, which will be made up for in overtime." src="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/wood_lane595.jpg" width="595" height="187" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;">

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The BEEB is still missing the point

There is a golden principle in anything you do - EAT YOUR OWN DOGFOOD.

A journalistic organisation which is not competent enough to take a decent picture of their own building does not deserve to exist.

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So,

should ignore anything that comes their way from Reuters, on the grounds that it's not from their own reporters?

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All this BBC baiting...

All this BBC baiting puts El Reg on the same side of the coin as all of Murdoch's outlets and The Daily Mail.

A strange Ménage à trois. I think we'd know who be the submissive in that arrangement.

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Moderatrix

With a certain Ms Bee buzzing around it certainly wouldn't be the Reg!

Eww, I've got an awful image of Murdoch in some weird fetish outfit cowering at the feet of the Moderatrix now. Anyone got any mind-bleach?

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Miserable sods on El Reg...

It may not be the greatest news story in the world but it is a mildly amusing tale of a BBC webmaster/editor having a bit of a larf with the Register. As far as costing tax payers money if you think a couple of pence in man-hours is wasting money (the BBC apparently has an all-you-can-eat agreement with Getty and PA so it didn't cost them anything extra for flip-flopping between images), compared to some of the absolute tosh the BBC output (and huge expense), then you are quite clearly stark raving bonkers!

Lighten up guys, its just a bit of harmless* fun, sheesh!

* Except for the tea-boy, but he's back now so its okay.

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re: miserable sods

Lets not forget, this started as a flawed article slating the BBC's profligacy.

Backtracking by saying "only joking" is a cop-out.

BBC Techies 1 - Reg 0.

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Teaboy?

The last time I worked anywhere with a tea person was about 30 years ago. The last time I saw such a functionary was in a DWP office about five years ago.

If the BBC really has a teaboy it confirms all my prejudices about the public sector. If El Reg has one, I'm profoundly shocked.

I think we should be told.

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What a bunch of miserable c*nts

I'm guessing so many Reg readers are bitter, social outcasts who long to lose their virginity that they can't laugh a light hearted story like this.

Go spend some of your salary on a haircut and some acne cream instead of Star Wars life size replica figures and cheer up.

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Great story...

... well done El Reg, as usual the BOOTNOTE stories do provide some good amusement.

(Thought I'd emphasis the that this is the bootnotes section as some commentards seem a little riled about the quality of these articles on the Beeb photo).

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Two fingers

Well, if you squint your eyes and look at the shape the road makes with the wide angle lens it could look like two fingers in the shape of a V.

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We don't have a tea boy...

But we do have a collection of rather attractive - and for some reason, mostly South American[1] - young ladies who do the rounds three times a day with a trolley full of goodies.

No tea though...

But then, the BBC sold us some years ago. It's probably different over there in White City.

[1] Colombian, this week.

(AC - I'd hate to lose this privilege!)

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Stop thief! The El Reg freetards have stolen a Google Street View photo

Lock them all up! Right now! And disconnect their ISP while you're at it.

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MORE LIKE THIS PLEASE!

"The BBC's news and current affairs programmes and news website have annual agreements with AP, PA, AFP, Allsport and Getty Images for image use. This image has been changed six times at a cost to the licence-fee payer of a few pence in terms of man-hours, which will be made up for in overtime." - the alt. text

Excellant. Here's to the good Ship El Reg, long may she wind up the establishment!

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Nice one, Beeb!

I like the linkback, the pointless but amusing changing of images, and that even The Corporation has been shown to have a sense of humour.

So maybe it's a slow news day. Better than hearing what the Supreme Court cocks up this time, or the <yawn>ongoing saga</yawn> of the iFans loss of love for the leftie-unfriendly new iGizmo that sheep flocked to buy even before a decent independent review hit The Wired. [oops, gratuitous Apple-dig (iDig?), downvotes ahoy!]

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There really is only one way to sort this I think?

FIGHT!!!!!! Please prepare your handbags for sunrise!

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