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Nipper's naked arse provokes Street View outrage
A Greater Manchester mum is "angry, disgusted and upset" after Google flashed her three-year-old son's arse at Street View surfers. Claire Rowlands, 25, told the Manchester Evening News of her horror at discovering the Great Satan of Mountain View's spymobile had grabbed her nipper's backside while he was butt naked in his …
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Friday 9th July 2010 12:57 GMT PerfectBlue
Paranoid?
"I would never dream of letting my children run around the front of the house butt naked."
Really? Well I'd never dream of stopping mine form doing that. I trust my neighbors and I know that there are actually very few sex offenders on the streets. Most sexual abuse is committed by close family members or friends of the family. Stranger abuse is quite rare.
You're children are more likely to be molested by the mother's boyfriend/their step father, than by a stranger. So keeping them inside would actually be more dangerous than letting them out as you'd potentially be keeping them in the house with their abuser.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 10:03 GMT GarethJones
Won't somebody think of the children!!!
If the Mother is so worried about her childs backside being seen who on earth would she let him outside without at least some pants on?? I've got news for her, It's your JOB as a parent to do so.
Why, is there such a culture in the UK at the present of blaming everyone for your own mistakes.
As Father Jack Hackett would say "Arse"..
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 12:21 GMT Ted Treen
Why???
"Why, is there such a culture in the UK at the present of blaming everyone for your own mistakes.?"
Because years of nanny-state government has removed any sense of responsibility whilst instilling an aggrieved awareness of rights into most of our citizens.
"Everyfink I want should be given to me, 'cos nuffink's my fault, innit?"
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 10:03 GMT LuMan
Sigh..
Alarmingly, I'm going to have to agree with the sentiments of the Daily Fail commentards. If this [freeloading, publicity-seeking, poor excuse of a] parent was so wary of paedo activity she simply wouldn't let her offspring run naked in an area where they could be seen. The cameras on Google's Black Opels are not much taller than a person, so the offending posterior would be clearly visible to anyone passing.
On a slightly different note, why is it perfectly acceptable for a child to flash his (or her) arse in public and I end up with a bloody indecency order for mooning a restaurant! One bloody rule for minors and another for hard-working, tax-paying, fun-seeking citizens!!!
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 11:49 GMT Anonymous Coward
Correction
The google stalks *do* look around from a substantially higher viewpoint than humans. In fact, so much so that I wonder why they haven't been taken off the streets /en masse/ for being too long for photographers.
Or do you suppose it reasonable everybody should add a yard to their garden fences' height just because of google?
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 14:39 GMT ChrisC
Looking at the height of their wall/fence in that photo...
...it appears that anyone of average height would be able to see into their garden whilst wandering past - that the Googlecam was raised higher still doesn't seem to have made the slightest difference here. So yes, I suppose it is reasonable that if people are THAT concerned about their privacy, they ruddy well do something proactive about it, rather than leaving their personal space wide open to public view and then bleating about it afterwards.
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Thursday 1st July 2010 23:58 GMT Anonymous Coward
Looking at it that way...
... still poses an interesting question.
Previously a fence, even a low one, ment ``this is private space, please don't trespass''. Now, a veritable fleet of cars with eyes on stalks is scouring the world and vacuuming up ``views'' entirely mechanically (the fleshy driver notwithstanding). So there's no voluntary ``looking elsewhere'', that vital social glue, but instead the occasional ``wtf did they scoop up now?''.
The result is that a symbolic fence has lost all meaning, and that if we want to maintain our previous expectation of privacy we now have to wall our gardens high the same way the average arab village does. This is a bit of a shocker for some, evidently. We can call them retrotards or whatever, but there's a real cost here and I'm not even counting the cost of a four metre high brick wall with broken glass on top for good measure. Do we want our suburbs turned into that?
Most of the fellow commentards seem to think it's part and parcel of the cost of modern living. Well, carry on then google.
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Friday 9th July 2010 12:57 GMT PerfectBlue
Not so
Ah, but in most parts of the UK (Where this picture was taken), it's actually a legal requirement (Local bylaw, rather than national criminal law) for all fences at the front of a property to be kept below a certain height (Usually around 1 meter) or to be of an open slat design so that you can easily see through them.
You can have higher fences at the sides of properties or at the backs, or you can have a higher hedge, but in a significant portion of the UK it's not permitted to have a front fence that's high enough to have blocked a view of that child from the street by average hight adult.
Even if that fence had been 10 feet high the child would have still been in plain sight for any sex offender with a ladder or in a helicopter, or even one with x-ray vision.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 11:54 GMT Graham Wilson
Unfortunately, they're susceptible to propaganda from the fear-mongering industry.
Unfortunately, they're susceptible to propaganda from the fear-mongering industry.
Remember, the fear-mongering industry--those of the safety, actuarial and insurance industries--actually make money by preying on the minds of the stupid and gullible--and that includes stupid politicians who aid and abet the industry by compliantly passing laws that benefit it.
Once we had responsibility, now we have fear.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 10:10 GMT Anonymous Coward
Outrageous
Once again the Empire of the Dark One commit a heinous privacy crime with CCTV. Doubtless this family will now be targeted by the paedophile hordes, when will these organisations start to respect privacy.
Astonishing that the usually apposite readers of the Daily Mail can not understand the true depth of depravity commited. Not only will they be able to get the photo, but ip address and MSN login details of this child.
Big fail.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 14:19 GMT Anonymous Coward
Astonished
In this day and age of jelly bean touting kerb crawling cctv cameras it is hard not to worry. As a parent I fear for the moral and social health of our young people.
What were the plans for this photo, were the bean flicking overlords going to use it as id for a snatch squad? Who indeed can know, surely not the innocent chavlets of Manchester. An innocent day of fun in the sun turned dark by the ever present oxygen of publicity.
It turns your blood cold, and brings tears to your eyes. Really when oh when are these people going to think of the children.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 10:10 GMT Andrew Baines
Why pixellate - just get it removed
I didn't want my house on streetview, so I went through every picture, reported it as offensive with a message saying that I didn't want my house on streetview. 1 week later - all gone.
If everyone did that, two fingers to google.
BTW, get duckduckgo.com as your search engine.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 10:10 GMT alain williams
Nudity != obscenity
When will people learn that nakedness is not obscene? What you do with your body is much more important, a stripper can be much more erotic while keeping some clothes on than someone sunbathing on a nudist beach.
This is the sort of brain dead attitude that stops the use of camers at swimming pools and school plays.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 10:15 GMT Anigel
So she advertises in all the nationals about how to find her child?
Cracks me up that she was so upset about it she sold her story to the national press had images of her and her child publicised far beyond anything that would ever have been known before
Congratulations for your national press advert to any paedophile that you were supposedly worried about in the first instance.
The simple lesson is that if you don't want something seen then don't show it off!
Do anything in the front garden where everyone can see it and you have no grounds to complain if it gets seen by people
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 10:15 GMT Anonymous Coward
A female spokesoperative said...
Is "spokesoperative" a real job title? :-) Either way, it's a quality made-up word.
As for "we removed the image in question within an hour of being notified" - well, that may well be the case, but this is Google completely missing the point ...again. The problem is that (for example), as far as I know there could be a picture on streetview with me in it that I would rather wasn't there. But how would I know? I never use street view, but just because I don't use it, it doesn't mean that I don't care about my picture being posted on it. Even if I DID use it, I may never actually find the picture(s) of me. Or I might find them within 10 minutes. How would I know?
For me, that is the problem with streetview. An individual has no idea what, if any, pictures of them are up on there. Short of checking out every single picture, how can they?
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 11:30 GMT James Hughes 1
What are you on about?
Anyone in the whole world could have a picture of you, taken in a public place, without your permission. And it would be perfectly legal. You wouldn't know about it, and it has done you no harm.
I have dozens of pictures taken in the public street, with many faces in them. I have no idea who they are, they have no idea the picture was taken. I could post them on Flikr or anywhere on the net, and I would be perfectly within my rights to do so.
Why is Google any different? In fact Google are providing a service to have images pixelated or removed upon request, I don't think they even need to do that.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 11:45 GMT James 6
Why do you care?
But why does it matter if there is a picture of you on Streetview?
I really don't understand why people would not want to appear in a street they were walking down where people could see them with their own eyes anyway. It's not as if it's a permanent video feed that tracks where you are every minute of everyday. It's just a picture taken as some indeterminate time in the past.
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 11:49 GMT Stuart Moore
Solution
The solution is not to do anything *in public* that you wouldn't want photoed. Because that way it won't happen. Google don't have a monopoly on cameras...
I have sympathy for those who don't want e.g. intrusive photos of their home taken over their fence - but as others have said you can remove those. Streetview can be useful on occasions (often to try to work out whether google maps' addresses are anything like reality)
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Wednesday 30th June 2010 11:48 GMT seanj
Re: Outrageous!!!!
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure having buttock[s] isn't yet a crime.... regardless of age... I believe I was issued with my buttock[s] at birth, as are most others, which is my understanding... Therefore the issue of allowing her underage son to have buttock[s] seems somewhat moot...
Wouldn't you agree?
:o)
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