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Apple has petitioned the US Federal Communications Commission to keep details of the iPhone 4 secret — some for a month and a half, some in perpetuity. Saying that Apple is secretive is akin to saying that the sky is blue or that water is wet. Still, Apple's letter to the FCC, as revealed by Patently Apple, is a veritable …

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Black Helicopters

The word is 'immaterial'

Standard way to render particular information immaterial.

The information has no value in and of itself if it is released after the device ships. Thus, any time after device release would work just fine.

They could have asked for release 1 second after shipping, or many days later (preferable, given the shipping delay already announced).

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Jobs

What a wanker!

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iTitle goes here (but not for 45 days)

Agreed; much that this will raise the ire of jobsian fanthingies, I must also add - fuck you Steve and I want my liver back.

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Jobs Halo

Hmmm?

"What have YOU done that's so great?"

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/05/steve_jobs_to_g.php

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@AC re: wanker

Oh, I see, so you know him well? Met him before? Or are you just basing this idiotic and offensive conclusion on stories you read about him, written by publications interested in generating something out of nothing so they can get more readers which in turns generates more advertising revenue?

Corporate secrecy (and corporate espionage) is rife in capitalism - anyone wanting to protect their IP are wankers, or just this one?

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Anonymous Coward

re Jobs the Wanker

Never met him - but he is a wanker

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Stop

he is a twat though

"Or are you just basing this idiotic and offensive conclusion on stories you read about him, written by publications interested in generating something out of nothing...."

Or possibly you know, the open letter he plastered up on the apple website or the derisive dismissive emails he is constantly sending out to the little people. Even if you believe nothing that doesn't come directly from his keyboard he is still a twat.

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Grenade

Aww.. Did we diss your boyfriend?

Nope.. Sorry. Steve Jobs being an unpleasant and vindictive person is very well known. Has been since the early Apple days. So should not come as news to the faithful.

And come on.. Apple is renowned in the industry for excessive secrecy. Most will keep their designs and their plans secret, but shows like CES would be impossible without the rest of the industry showcasing their stuff to the world up to and beyond a year in advance.

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Pint

details, details

Maybe this request is for the details of the Verizon model to be kept secret until end of July (or whatever the finger-counting gets to) ??

Why assume that this request if for the just-announced iPhone 4? Do we know that the ID mentioned is for the phone that was announced?

If it is, it's a bit late. Crikey mate - you think that you're going to get an approval in seventeen days ?!? And Apple won't announce a ship date until they're confident they can meet it.

Tin-foil hat time

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Big Brother

it's probably for...

The "iPhone 4gs"... Which they will start leaking info for right after everyone has bought an iPhone 4.

Apple will officially announce it in August... lol...

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Joke

Humour or reality?

This might help explain a few things...

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple

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Oh hell no...

"Secret" means you keep it within the company. Once you're dealing with the government, you're talking to the COUNTRY, be it The People, The Crown, whatever. And THAT, folks, needs must be as public as possible.

Granted, it'd probably take the FCC 45 days to respond to a request for information in the first place, but....

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Linux

Dont care

Why anybody would buy one if these over an android phone is a little beyond me.

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Big Brother

re: Dont Care

IF the Android is so good then what about this then?

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/18/2030243/HTC-Android-Smartphone-Stores-Browsing-Screenshots

Disclaimer, I don't have any type of Smartphone( Android, iDrone or Crapberry). I use a total crap Sony-Ericcsson since my Nokia 3310 died a few months ago. However, I'm on the lookout for a decent one. So far there seems 'gotchas' like this related to all current ones.

BB for obvious reasons.

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Jobs Horns

So?

It caches a thumbnail of the browser screen so you can have a thumbnail grid in the bookmarks menu. A factory reset doesn't get rid of it because it's stored on the SD card. Can always just delete em manually.

What, Android phones/iBlown/all browsers ever store your browsing history for a customiseable number of days??? OMG Failzzz

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Steve Davies 3

Try reading the article http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/18/2030243/HTC-Android-Smartphone-Stores-Browsing-Screenshots

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Prediction: Request denied

FCC will only grant the most-inarguably reasonable of such requests, and only until such time as the device hits the market (where upon the competition will buy one anyway).

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Gates Halo

45 days, because...

...there is a special chip inside that emits a localized radio signal that reprograms the human brain to make the iPhone 4 user fall inline with Apple's Matrix and it takes 45 days for this process to complete.

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Happy

yes!

Whether it's radio waves, or subliminal on-screen messages, or some kind of halucinogenic compound on the coating, absobed through the skin, I've become convinced that there must be some rational explanation for the Apple fans' zeal. That they *believe* the user interface is brilliant seems to be part of the psychosis. It's a neat trick, however they pull it off.

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Secrecy gone mad..

They're keeping the *user manual* secret after the release date? WTF?

So anyone who receives an iphone 4 better not read the manual or you'll be on dodgy legal ground.

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Strong-arm tactics

Why are Apple asking for the 45 day and the "indefinate" secrecy? To give the impression that Apple has power over the FCC, and that the FCC will bow to whatever stupid request they make.

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Pint

Wake up you lot!

Now let me see....you bleat about wanting to keep something a secret and what happens? The world and his dog want to know why!

FFS! It's a cheap and nasty ad scam! Get approval from some governent body in days? Jebus H Jobs, you usually need about 18 months to get this sort of thing approved not 18 days!

If nothing else, the Apple ad machine is a rollin' and nothing is gonna stop it!

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Non Event

2 minutes research (remember that, El Reg?) shows they filed an almost identical letter last year.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1121448&native_or_pdf=pdf

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They are keeping it secret...

because the CPU is made of slices of living human brain.

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FCC Confidentiality

What Apple have requested is the same as any other company would request and is allowed under the FCC rules, the sensitive information that could damage Apple is allowed to remain confidential. Any information that the user could get by purchasing the product and looking for themselves cannot remain permanently confidential.

Once the product is known to the public irrespective of whether it is on sale, short term confidentiality ends.

These rules are for any company obtaining FCC certification for a radio transmitter and Apple is not getting anything special, just what everyone gets.

So for all the people who do not understand what the FCC does/does not allow, you've had a quick lesson. I do not work for Apple or really like their products but in this case we all get the same, like it or not.

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Black Helicopters

BRAINS!

"And why 45 days of secrecy when the iPhone 4 is scheduled to be released on June 24, a mere 17 days after its announcement?"

*Counts fingers*

So...that's....28 Days Later.

I think Jobs may be planning the zombie apocalypse.

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