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It brought 8mm film projectors into the home. It launched the VHS revolution. And it has contributed mightily to the success of the internet. What else could we be referrring to but porn? And now Online MBA has provided a staggering set of stats that show exactly how pervasive the ever-evolving effluence of erotica is on the …

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Caught out

It's a fair cop, guv'nor. I really must pull the curtains next time and get rid of the sheep.

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Paris Hilton

may I toss this in the pot...

What percentage of cave paintings or the writings on the walls of Roman towns are salacious depictions of sex... might I guess 12%? in which case we have reached porn homoeostasis on the net.

Paris for her upstanding (so I'm led to believe) contribution to this global achievement.

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6 minuets 29 seconds

"The average porn site visit lasts 6 minuets 29 seconds"

Now there's a surprise!

Interesting fact, the average Register site visit is also 6 minuets 29 seconds*.

*made up fact.

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Headmaster

How many minuets?

The average porn site visit lasts 6 slow, stately dances in triple meter, popular in the 17th and 18th centuries (or pieces of music for such a dance or in its rhythm) 29 seconds?

Quite honestly I have some trouble with that assertion.

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Sunday and Utah

Of course, Sunday. They cleanse their souls in the morning, and then need something to justify going to church again next week!

Anyway, Utah? Hyper-moralistic Mormon-land Utah? Why doesn't that surprise me?

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Only 35% ?

I thought it was more like 50%. It doesn't say if it's HTTP only, or if it includes the torrents and the like.

Anyway, 35% from 10% of the sites sounds pretty good :) Although they can do better :))

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yep

Wow well if it wasn't for porn a lot of us would be serial killers or something, so thank goodness for porn!!!!!! lmao

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So we know the size of the aussie firewall then...

The final block list will be about 24 million sites...

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lol

Shouldnt slow the internet down at all, should it?

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wow

those MBA guys seem to have spent an inordinate amount of time studying and quantizing Internet pr0n. Good to know they still have the proper priorities on Internet usage. None of that "the Internet is for research and connecting with friends and family" stuff from them, oh no.

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Re: wow

It's a hard life, but someone had to get stuck in, give it their best shot and cum up with this seminal work......

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Missed one small detail

All this talk about "porn", but they don't ever say what they mean by it. From their little poster, it appears that"sex" is synonymous with porn - at least in their world. So are "adult websites". Should we therefore conclude that when they refer to porn, they simply mean anything of an adult nature - including, presumably "adult" i.e. cert 18 films?

So what it seems to boil down to is that in a world populated overwhelmingly by adults, a significant proportion of web traffic, searches, emails and websites either contain or are there to satisfy people's needs for adult material?

Maybe the real problem is that stunted individuals who felt the need to produce this chart - and the research behind it aren't mature enough to have a "grown-up" discussion about the topic. If they were, they'd realise that there's a tremendous amount of sex going on - everywhere (hint: that's why there are nearly 7 billion people on the planet, and more every day) and that it's a big part of lots of people's lives. To deny it's there or to consider it a bad thing seems rather foolish.

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Missed one huge detail

This isn't from some anti-porn website, or from a porn industry website. It's from a blog for business MBAs. It's not intended to vilify - or, for that matter, justify - pornography*; this is an informative, not a persuasive, graphic. The numbers behind it are important to business people for reasons ranging from investment strategies to management strategies to procurement strategies.

The judgment, therefore, which you inferred from this graphic and the research behind it ultimately came from nowhere but yourself. Please consider therapy, or at least defer commenting until you are mature enough to have a frank discussion on this topic.

*which, by the way, is pretty well defined. If you MUST have a definition provided to you, go here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pornography

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Hmmm

Steven, the definition you posted is:

'obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, esp. those having little or no artistic merit.'

definition of 'obscene' from the same site:

'abominable; disgusting; repulsive.'

Surely that makes the Daily Mail pr0n?

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RE: Missed one huge detail

...but "adult dating" is still not the same as porn.

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Happy

Boobies!!

Need I say more.

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Paris Hilton

hmmm

I'm trying to remember if I might have been in Elmhurst, Illinois around the time the survey was taken ...

If I'd been in Paris I'd have remembered.

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Happy

Just grab your d**k

and double click...

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2 mins later

Tissue + ctrl F4

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you forgot ...

... to dismount (your truecrypt volume)

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Unlikely.

The way these results are presented makes them look more like many of those crap surveys that appear in Mens Health or GQ magazines where the population quota sampled is about 15, and then extrapolated out linearly to supposedly represent a total population.

So I call "shenannigans" on these results - but in all truth don't give a flying toss either way and am off for a w**k off over the latest Jamie Brooks vid.

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Can I just add a big...

... SO WHAT???

People like looking at porn, well, isn't that a surprise! Despite the best efforts of the Mary Whitehouses et al of this world, the human interest in sex and all that goes with it continues unabated.

In other news, Popes are Catholic and (oh, you know the rest...)

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Long may it reign!

Look, if the good ( pick your deity ) hadn't wanted us to have sex, they wouldn't have put our dangly bits in easy reach!

What's so special about Sunday? It's the only day the rest of us can get stuff done, not necessarily this of course, as all the God botherers are down the local place of worship and away from us!

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I dunno about the stats presented ...

But I know for an absolute fact that EVERY male college student's computer that I've worked on over the last 25 years or so has contained porn. The coeds didn't start picking up on Internet porn in college until around a dozen years ago ... and now, they are nearly equal to the boys.

In business, over the last decade and a half or so, probably 80% (or thereabouts) of all male middle management PCs contain traces of Internet porn (in my experience). The ladies started surfing porn around 6 years ago, and are now (roughly) equal to the men.

Not trying to justify it, nor vilify it, and likewise not drawing conclusions, just stating my observations. Do with them what you will.

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1 in 3 are women?

I seriously doubt that. Unless American women are vastly diffferent to the rest of the world, which I doubt.

I would reckon 1 in a thousand are women, as I've never actually met a girl who has (admitted to) surfed porn.

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Paris Hilton

You corrected yourself there...

The important point is "admitted to"!

Women will not, as a rule, admit to watching porn except with people they absolutely trust (or their completely wasted). But women do watch porn, just like women do masturbate. They dont talk about it like guys do but they still do it.

We're all human after all...

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you

You don't know many woman, out of my circle of friends I can count ten woman all of which look at porn to one degree or another, including an attractive, married, degree educated, senior auditor as well as nutty 19 year old students and a range in between.

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Psst.

A joke about never actually meeting a woman with a handle of FreeTard would be too easy.

If you're really curious, google up 'yaoi' and 'slashfic.' But not at work, unless you're part of that 20%. Spoiler: Know how there's a lot of straight male-targeted porn of 'lesbians'?

Also consider how smut is hidden offline. Ever heard of Harlequin Books? Or 'dime dreadfuls'? Or just 'romance novels' in general? They're not technical manuals.

Paris likes porn, too!

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Women won't admit it?

A lot of women will admit porn surfing to some people but not to others. The same rule applies to a lot of things with women (and to a lesser extent men) - If they trust and feel comfortable with you then they'll admit to all sorts of things, but if they think you're a weirdo then they won't even admit to taking their clothes off before they get in the shower.

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American women

> Unless American women are vastly diffferent to the rest of the world, which I doubt.

Vastly? Maybe not, but in my experience they are a lot more open about what they do & what they like, especially in the self-help department, than are English* women. I still remember the weekend I learned that...

*I use "English" for a reason. Scots & Irish are almost as open as the female yanks (especially the redheads :) )

Anon. Of course.

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This bites.

I have actually stayed away from the Goddamn porn sites because of the trojans.

Now I find that I am not holding up my side.

(Oh God, snicker.)

I will try to adjust this situation by trying to find some good quality porn sites that I can access at work. I think I will start with a deep packet inspection of my bosses web presence; yeah, that ought to do it.

(Did you know that a Linux machine will automatically log on to an XP?)

Weird; so let us see what the bigwigs are doing today and hope we do not go blind in the process.

'Cause we really should have some damn values.

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116,000

Can I just say that 116,000 searches for child pornography a day. That's slightly sickening to be honest and is that only in the US? Having the opportunity to view media on the internet is what is making mankind as a collective better in my view not just porn but everything and seeing that stat just makes me feel sick. Wont anyone think of the children?

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Isn't that the problem?

Thinking of the children, I mean...

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Just calm down.

First, I don't know how these statistics were created, so I doubt them a lot. As you point out, we don't know anything about the population from which the sample was drawn, and there are lots of other metainformation about the study they'll have to publish before the figures can be believed.

Second. Even if the figure is accurate, we don't know how many of these searches were by people who wanted to look at child porn. I made such a search once; a friend sent me a cartoon depicting disney's little mermaid Ariel (who is 15 in the original fairy tale) in a hot scene with disney's Jasmine and several miniature replicas of Agraba's towers. So I searched Wikipedia for "child pornography" because I wanted to know if the picture is illegal in my country. But does that make me an abominable paedophile? (BTW, I didn't keep the cartoon anyway).

Third. Even if most of the 116 K searches are made by actual sickos, ~100 000 people who like to look at kiddies (assuming each is making exactly one query per day) out of ~2 billion Internet users isn't that much, it is 1 in 20 000. To put it in perspective: the prevalence for ASPD (the exact medical term for what is commonly known as "psychopathy") is about 1 in 500 people. So why does the number given here for child porn searches surprise you? Yes, people who like child porn really exist, we don't imagine them. But there aren't many of them around, and the figure here confirms that.

AC, because this is a british site and I just admitted to having caught a glimpse of the little mermaid sans bikini.

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,,,and statistics.

Since we're not told anything about how the survey was done, it's a bit dodgy to compare 68 million seraches per day for all porn (including adult dating) with 116,000 per day for child pornography.

But it's less than 0.2%, which looks a lot less frightening.

I wonder how long it will be before politicians start making a fuss about these dreadful totals. It's worth noting that US law, generally, makes it easier for a porn business to stay legal. If your local MP starts flapping about this, blame it on yankee perversion.

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And how many 'serious' paedos would actually be dumb enough to type 'child pornography' in to a search engine? From the articles I read here, most are really quite careful about keeping under cover. Using a search engine would be like having a fluorescent sign on your head saying 'please arrest me, I like kiddy porn'.

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The stupid ones

20% of men surf porn at work? That's utterly stupid, yet it happens.

Unless kiddie porn lovers are of above average intelligence, which I somehow doubt, I wouldn't put it past them to google their hobby.

I suspect the "rings" we hear of in the news, whilst being the most dangerous, are far from the most representative.

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@xpert_con

And what if someone is searching for oh, I don't know, some stats to *verify* that claim about "116,000 searches for child pornography" per day?

Exactly what terms do you think they might use?

Oh, look, someone searching for "child pornography"...!

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A bit unfair...

...#11 isn't really relevant to the rest of the article, it somehow implies that the porn industry is responsible for child porn - Bollocks.

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Don't forget...

... multi-angle DVD feature was also developed by the porn industry. The history of porn and how it's driven technology through the years is a very interesting read.

As for the research these lot did, I think an ursus has defecated in the woods somewhere.

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Search Term != Porn

The article context makes it seem as if there are 116k pedo's searching for images of child abuse every day. Let's remember there are numerous reasons why someone may use the search term "Child Pornography" which have nothing to do with wanting to consume porn. Maybe I've been the victim of child pornography, maybe I'm studying the psycho/social issues around it, maybe I'm researching it's prevalence on the web...

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@FreeTard

"I would reckon 1 in a thousand are women, as I've never actually met a girl who has (admitted to) surfed porn."

And I have never met one (with whom the topic has come up in conversation) who claims to never surfed for porn.

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This is new?

All visual media have always been for porn. Artists have been painting and sculpting nudes for centuries, or millenia.

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Love it.

The stats, not the porn. Okay maybe the porn too.

Although stat #11 is very disturbing.

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So? What's Your Point?

BFD. As soon as all the apple and lummox fanboys learn about sex the percentage will rise precipitously. Oh no, that's wrong ... division by zero not allowed.

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@John Stepp

"Did you know that a Linux machine will automatically log on to an XP?"

What?

Elaborate please!

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Hmmmm

Some sort of euphamism for playing with you and/or your chosen partners danglies?!

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Bias in these figures...

There is a moralistic anti-porn bias in these figures. Its trying scare tactics from all directions.

My suspicion was first raised when it said "$3,075.64", that's intentionally trying to make it look like a big number on a quick first glance. $3075 looks less but thats a small point compared with what follows it.

I'm not sure if the moralistic anti-porn bias was coming from www.onlineschools.org ... my first thought was they were biasing it, but the more I read it and look at their web site, I think the bias is second hand so to speak, as its coming through the statistics from other sites they used as reference as some of these are using anti-porn biased figures.

Not sure what to make of the church on Sunday image, as there is two ways to interpret it. Either its the anti-porn moralistic brigade annoyed at porn on Sunday or its the anti-porn moralistic brigade showing their voyeuristic porn fetish hypocrisy on Sunday. :)

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Out of date?

Am I alone in having been online so long that the thrill of online thrusting bits has waned immensely? In days of yore I was way up there with my 56K modem, but it seems to me that a one-day sub on any major site would satisfy even the most 'ardent' teenager for months? Broadband has therefore freed me to research youtube's cat collection, which is apparently even more infinite (??) than the other kind of pussy!

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Dhuuuuuu

Tell me something we don't know! I am suprised it's as low as that. I always thought WWW stood for (W)orld (W)ide (W)ank.

Even back in the early days of the closed university systems I worked with there was always the smut pictures going around.

Pass anything to the masses and you will always end up seeing the base denominator. Take aways the porn hunters the freetards the net would not be as big as it is now.

Take away the KP peddlers and other such deviants, it beats having to wait in line at the cornershop whist the guy in front with the sheepish look buys a copy of Reader Wives and 1/2 a pint of milk.

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