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A Northern Ireland garage mechanic who drove for three miles with a disgruntled customer clamped to the bonnet of his car has been cleared of a raft of charges including assault and dangerous driving, the Belfast Telegraph reports. Gerry Brown, 53, was at his yard near Castlewellan in February 2008 when Lesley Quirey and his …

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"They said there was nobody available"

Yet they managed to divert someone to nick him.

I know police forces can be overstretched, but "there's no one available" just isn't an acceptable answer.

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reminds me of this joke, you might have heard.

but i'll repeat in for those that haven't. It's supposed to be a true story, don't know can't verify.

Guy out in the sticks calls the police late at night and says "There's a burglar downstairs, I don't think he knows I'm here so if you come quick you'll catch him!"

To which the police despatcher replies "I'm sorry sir we have no-one to send"

The guy swears and hangs up, but rings back a couple of minutes later and says "Don't worry about that burglar, I got my shotgun out the case and blew his head off, I'll dispose of the body in the morning!" and hangs up.

5 minutes later half the damn police force turns up, cars, vans, armed police, helicopter and dog unit where they accidentally catch the burglar attempting to do a runner.

When confronting the homeowner one very angry police officer says "I thought you shot him?!"

to which the man replies "I thought you had no one to send?"

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except

You would get done for wasting police time if you did that... unfortunately

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I can kind of vouch for that...

...the other year I was assaulted out and inside my home for my car keys by three large youths.

So whilst one solitary vigilant neighbour of mine (thanks modern society) had looked outside, seen the racket I was making for somebody to call the police, the buggers said they had absolutely nobody to send as the city had apparently suffered some kind of crime wave at the time, yeah right.

They questioned him further, wondering whether it was a genuine call, and he had to argue loudly to the police down the phone that he was staring at the perps who at that time had me pinned to the ground!

So of course, after the scumbags had shot off with my car, my DSLR camera and laptop, an unknown amount of time passed (I was in shock of course) some officers turned up saying they were only just returning to the station from doing a patrol of the streets in a different area of the city! Basically I got a response from the absolute dregs of police response, not that they didn't handle it reasonably professionally, I suppose.

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It happened again a few days later to somebody else on my street! Again, the perps spent a lot of time ransacking the house and got away scot free.

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To my knowledge they're still on the loose.

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Crimestoppers

I always do this with CrimeStoppers. I just call them (it's anonymous!) and tell them that some extremely dangerous sh*t is happening. They tell me to call police (which is a waste of time) and I tell them that if somebody dies or get seriously hurt it's their fault. Then hung up.

Police always comes in 5min max. Plus you don't need to leave your details, so nobody harasses you afterwards. Job well done!

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Ha ha ha ha!

How many people are seeing that Father Ted episode in their mind's eye?

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Not arf

http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/84/Hell_%28Father_Ted%29_screengrab.jpg/256px-Hell_%28Father_Ted%29_screengrab.jpg

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re: Ha ha ha ha!

That'll be the one where Graham Norton et al were riverdancing in the tiny caravan?

Cracking!

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Me

"He's puncturing the tyres, Ted!"

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Let's hear it for common sense!

Someone's running in fear of their life, so what do the Police do? Arrest him on a bunch of silly charges and let the guy threatening him go because it's going to be easier to charge the victim with crimes than make a case against the attacker...

Unbelievable.

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"Regarding the Staffordshire bull terrier, Philip Quirey admitted he and his nephew happened to have one in the car boot..."

Aye, they're right boogers to shift once they take a liking to a place.

I once had a whole family of Great Danes took up residence in the glovebox of my Mini....

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better

Better to get someone charged with motor vehicle offenses ( and the ensuing fines presumably), than go after the nut job...

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"a toy for the dog"

Balls. Any of my Staffs would have reduced a pick-axe handle to rocking horse shit in about 30 seconds. A crowbar, now, that might last.

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Re: "a toy for the dog"

Double balls. Any self-respecting Staffie would knock itself cold trying to get through a door at full pelt with the centre of the pick axe handle in its mouth and the rest stuck out either side. Trust me on this, I've yet to meet a Staffie that has any idea of its own width or that of whatever it happens to be carrying, which is one of the reasons they're widely known as "comedy dogs" to those in the know...

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!just dogs

Hamster's have the same problem if you give them digestive biscuits that are too wide for Habitrail tunnels.

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Reminds me..

Of one I read about a while ago, some guy looks into his backyard or whatever and sees someone breaking into his shed, he calls the police telling them thats it happening right now, but "noone is available", so he claims something along the lines of "ok, I'll get my rifle then." or something like that.

Within minutes the place was crawling in coppers who suddenly did get very very available, to probably arrest the home owner for making a threat, I can't recall details now.

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police...

..just suck.

poor guy. as the victim, he is the one getting prosecuted because some neanderthal with a dog and an Axe tried to scare the life out of him, and would've probably beaten it out of him too.

the police should just be given pink uniforms and told to stand on motorways with hairdryers because they are a waste if this case is the rule rather than the exception...although one hopes not..i do live in a dodgy neighbourhood and would not like to be prosecuted for public indecency if i get the shirt stolen off my back and the shorts from my crack.

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Unbe-fuc*king-lievable!

Bull Terrier? Dangerous dog? "Happened" to have one in the boot?? So, maybe they just forgot it was there (Another criminal offence)

Obviously dangerous, as it needed a pickaxe handle for a 'toy'. I'll get my moggie a chainsaw or an AK47 to play with.

Sense prevailed. Personally, I'd have slammed the brakes on, forcing the prat onto the road, and "Unfortunately, in the confusion, I mistook the brake for the accelerator, M'lud"

Oh, they weren't chasing him with the broken-down car, I guess.

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Re: Unbe-fuc*king-lievable!

A staffy isn't necessarily a dangerous dog, you prat. All kinds of people keep them as pets, some of whom are aggressive idiots like this one, and I think he was probably doing quite well with the intimidation on his own without the dog.

You're having a bit of a week, aren't you?

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Indeed, Sarah.

"There are no bad dogs, just bad owners."

People, both intentionally and inadvertantly, train their dogs to do all kinds of thinkg. aggressiveness is just one of them, and it's tradgic.

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Breeds have distinct tendencies

All dogs are potentially dangerous given the right circumstances. They are subject to instincts, and will attack given the right signals. I've seen a dog that was normally a timid, docile animal tear a possum apart with its teeth - almost a 'jekyll and hyde' experience - and at times like that you see the animal concealed beneath the 'man's best friend' exterior.

Certain breeds have a greater tendency to aggressive behaviour, and with some breeds that risk is high no matter how well they have been raised. There have been more than a few unfortunate cases where a trusted (well-kept) family pet has killed a baby or ripped into a visiting child, much to the horror of the owners. There are certain breeds that should never be kept by a family.

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@Sarah, @oninoshiko

The law may be a bit arbitrary with regard to dangerous dogs, but the simple fact is that certain breeds are inherently dangerous. There are plenty of bad owners, and as a result there are plenty of dangerous dogs that are not officially on the dangerous breeds list, but which are never going to be safe without a muzzle, but that simple, sensible half-way house seems to be too easy an idea.

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Re: @Sarah, @oninoshiko

I don't think you know very much about dogs, but I'll grant you that large or powerful dogs are more dangerous than smaller ones in the sense that *if* they attack, they'll do more damage. However, you can't tell just from a dog's breeding whether or not it will ever attack anyone or anything. You can't. Sorry.

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You're having a bit of a week, aren't you?

No.

Men don't suffer from direct PMT. Just indirect PMT, from their female partners.

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once again the police go after the little man

... literally in this case. Were they intimidated too?

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At least...

... they couldn't charge him with being Tall in the presence of a police officer. Probably got him for glancing with intent to eyeball instead.

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Wasn't it a Python skit?

[Constable] "The defendant dealt me a nasty blow to my fist with his eye"

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Ello John...

I bet he never sells a dodgy motor again

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reminds me...

Of an urban myth (or true story) Chap phones the police, explain burglars are in the garden. Police explain they are busy and cant get anyone there for 30 minutes. Caller says he will go out and investigate with his gun. 3 minutes later armed response arrive saying we thought you had a gun. Caller retorts I thought you didnt have anyone available for 30 minutes.

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common sense prevails!

reminds me of when my cousin (only 18) and his mate were out town drinking. they get jumped and soem guys try to mug them and beat them up. so they ran to their car and drove to the police station for help. where he was charged with drink driving and lost his license!!!!

and the pigs wonder why nobody likes them?

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I want this judge...

...to be sat on a panel of 'overjudges' to review cases in the UK. Sounds like he actually has some sense!

Typical police behaviour though...a guy calls up begging for help and the only response is 'if we can't nick you we aren't coming'. Whatever happened to police HELPING those in need?

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Mmmm pickaxe handles..

jesus, if that mutt "toys with pick axe handles".. what would he do to a leg??

Paris, because she knows how to handle an axe..

(there's gotta be a better variation on that)..

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Paris Hilton

Paris because...

Paris, because she already has an axe wound...

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Here's a variation for you

A pick axe handle is also known as a shaft.

I'm sure that fits better with your comment :)

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You are not even trying Sir

She can play with my handle......

Paris probably plays with bigger toys....

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I seriously can't believe

that with this whole story to choose from, you pick on the dog. Which didn't attack anyone. Or get involved in any way.

Explain this to me?

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Its time the police used some common sense

A good start would be an intelligence test for all recruits and senior officers.

But though the judge showed common sense in dismissing the case, he did less than he could. A better judge would have insisted that the officer responding to the call was barred from public service for life and his seniors formally reprimanded for allowing an incompetent person to be employed.

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@harry

Common sense is counter productive in law enforcement, as in it is not profitable.

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@Harry

In the the US they DO take an intelligence test... only if you are too smart they won't hire you.

There was a big ruckus raised about that a couple years ago, I forgot the exact details, but basically some guy took their intelligence test, scored too high and they refused to even interview him for the job.

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This is really scary

Sometimes the UK "justice" system just baffles me. In many ways things have regressed to the dark ages. Even refusing to sit quietly in your flat and letting someone hack off your arms is likely to get you arrested for making too much noise.

Maybe the driver got charged because it was the word of 2 (assailants) against 1 (victim). Or perhaps one of the assailants had noble blood? Not that NZ has any, but DAMN Folks!!

You know the French were really on to something with that whole revolution thing. Granted they went a bit too far but they did certainly fix the immediate problem. At the absolute minimum the government should pay the poor bloke a BIG settlement and ALL the police involved (including the idiot 999 operator) should be fired and bared from ever working in a police service again.

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So typical....

.. that the police got it so wrong.

Do you have to permanently disable the common sense parts of your brain when you become one? It sure sounds like it.

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Win...win for the police

".... subsequently charged ....using a mobile phone."

Quote from Police HQ " What do you mean he is the victim. Whats that got to do with anything? I've also got an idea. Its only one incident but if we charge him for using a mobile phone as well we can claim two detections. It also beefs up our 'using mobile phone whilst driving' figures due next week at the Home Office. Lets do him! "

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SOP for the Cops...

Anyone who looks as if they are trying to undermine the cops monopoly gets busted. The original criminals are a far lower priority... Anonymous because, well, you don't need to ask...

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Castlewellan

You do realise that this is in Castlewellan, a place where people leave bombs?

Maybe the PSNI did have something else to do?

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And now we have Theresa May...

... telling the Police that they will have more opportunities to decide who gets charged for "minor crimes" instead of needing to check with prosecutors to see if there's actually a case to answer, let alone a chance of conviction.

I can't see this one going wrong at all...

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dumb cops

Ok so the cops are dumb. But who was the prosecutor that thought it was a good idea to go to court on this.

What's next ? You get stabbed and because the knife is still in you ,you get charged for having an illegal weapon .

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Charges they should have brought

"Staffordshire bull terrier and pickaxe handle" - Posession of a dangerous weapon

"started banging on the car" - Criminal Damage

"He’s f****** lost it. He’s going to kill me" - Public Order Act Section 4 Fear or Provocation of Violence.

"pickaxe handle was a toy for the dog". - Taking the piss

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Heh...

"A row quickly ensued, and Lesley Quirey "ran around to the back of his car, where there was a Staffordshire bull terrier and pickaxe handle and I immediately thought that something wasn’t right", as Brown explained."

Ah, British understatement, gotta love it. Something wasn't right indeed.

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Entry requirements

I work with an ex-policeperson and this doesn't surprise me at all. It seems there is a minimum height and a maximum IQ for joining the police.

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Reminds me...

Of an urban (it might have been suburban) myth about a man who phones the police to report a burglar trying to break into the building across the road. The police say they're too busy so he says he'll nip out and shoot them with his camera. Within minutes a squadron of coppers arrive on the scene and arrest him under section 44(2) of the Terrorism Act.

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