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The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has stumped up $100,000 to fund University of North Carolina research into using ultrasound as a male contraceptive method. The promising technique simply blasts a chaps' 'nads with ultrasound, stopping sperm production. Once the available supply is exhausted, the man is infertile for up to …

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Where do I submit

...my list of "volunteer" test subjects?

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

I really don't like the sound of that.

In fact, it gives me the willies!

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Mass sterilization...

Massive high-range tweeters installed in overpopulated areas.

Problem solved!

Better yet, install them in clubs where chavs and other yobbo's like to congregate.

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Only half joking

I'm sure governments everywhere are wondering how to deploy it.

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sorry for being a n00b

if I understand it correctly, the device will stop the production of sperms for 6 months, right?

does that mean no sex for 6 months? well, not really no sex... but isn't the sperm how men *cough* come *cough*? therefore, without it... men well _NOT_ climax? Which basically means.... no sex for 6 months (assuming the sperm supply is consumed in the first weekend).

so is this device a birth control device for men?... or is it a no sex, for 6 months, for men?

sorry... I am a programmer... so unless medical fact are explained it will be hard for me to understand them.

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Don't worry.

You'll still be able to finish in 20 seconds, just as normal. The difference is that the semen you pump in to Polythene Pauline won't contain viable sperm.

Probably. In not a doctor. I just wanted to make a prem/doll comment. :-)

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Doesn't mean no sex

In fact,it doesn't even mean no ejaculation. Semen will still be produced, but viable sperm will not. As I understand it, the result is similar to a temporary vasectomy (but much less painful and invasive). So really, once you've got the last of the little fellas out of your system, it's fun as normal, without the risk of causing pregnancy (of course, this is no protection from STDs).

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Good Grief

There is no rule that you can't have sex or ejaculate if there is no sperm in your semen.

(Yes, it does contain other "stuff" - I assume it's on wikipedia, but I won't be visiting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen at work.)

Moving on, I once had them ultrasounded - it was to check for cancer (fortunately there was none); I'm guessing this procedure is how they found out its spermicidal capabilities. I'm now wondering if I got the contraceptive effects as well - it certainly would not have been relevant at the time. :-(

For the curious, it involves getting lots of gel on the scrotum, before the machine operator moves the ultrasound transceiver around each testicle for a few minutes - it's not remotely unpleasant.

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Re: sorry for being a n00b

One assumes semen production will remain unaffected.

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sperm != semen

... else vasectomised chaps would effectively be castrated.

Back to the books, m'laddo...

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As you're a programmer

sperm != semen

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Rather than down vote

Rather than down vote your post, I am going to assume you don't actually know and are sincerely asking for information.

Only a very small potion of male ejaculate is actually sperm. The rest; lubricating fluids, stuff for the sperm to swim in, is still made by the body, even if the man is (temporarily) infertile. I think (but am not certain) that such fluids originate from the prostate, rather than the testes themselves. The idea that a procedure such as this, a vasectomy, or any other reason for infertility will make a man ahem... dry up, is a misconception.

Anyone more informed than me should feel free to correct me on details.

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I would guess

that the effect is no different to having snip, no sperm present but ejaculation still there as the bulk of ejaculate isn't sperm but is created in the prostate.

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Get some sex ed...

Semen contains sperm and seminal fluid (produced by the prostate). If the sperm are eliminated from the ejaculate (say through ultrasound or vascectomy), the orgasm is the same.but there is almost no possibility of getting the partner pregnant*.

May I recommend finding another job and a life to go with it? Then again, perhaps Darwin would be proud of you...

* for the real noob - one partner should be male and the other female for pregnancy to be a danger in the first place.

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RE: Sperm Production

Having had an Op to do this more permanently; This is not the case in the same way as I still get colds and have runny noses ...

On the other hand I'm married, so "... no sex for 6 months?" is not out of the question :)

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seriously...

I think by "I am a programmer" you either mean "I am extremly stupid" or "I am still a minor", personally, I'm betting on the second option.

go look up what a vasectomy is and get back to us.

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Ego te absolvo

Sperm makes up only a few percent of seminal fluid. Men who have had vasectomies do not stop having sex. (Otherwise, what would be the point?)

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@Richard 81

thanks for explaining, I always assumed that in the English language sperm is semen, just 2 names for the same thing (my first language is not English).

as for the others, thanks for taking the time to posts your comments

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@Good grief

I did actually go to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen at work". Strangely it was an article on the...

(a) Royal Navy

(b) Working girls of Amsterdam

(c) Health and safety practices in a fertility clinic

(d) Tour dates of the popular Aussie ditty thieves 'Men At Work'

Select one or more of the above.

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You're confusing sperm and semen

The fluid you ejaculate is semen, not sperm; it contains sperm (assuming you're producing them and there aren't any blocked tubes or similar), but sperm cells make up a tiny fraction by volume of the ejaculate, so their presence or absence doesn't make any macroscopic difference at all to what comes out the end of your dick.

And, no, you don't need sperm production to orgasm -- hell, you don't even need to *ejaculate* to orgasm, for that matter. For further insight, apply your programmer's deductive reasoning skills on the following question: Why is vasectomy not equivalent to castration?

Or just go on Wikipedia and redress your appalling lack of knowledge. Seriously, how did you make it to adulthood without knowing how your own genitals work?

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Additionally...

... ejaculation != orgasm, for males or for females. Though the two are (in general) more closely linked for men than women.

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Gel

Do get to choose a young lady to massage the gel into the aforementioned region

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Semen-less contraception

While this method doesn't remove semen, I remember reading about a method which in fact inhibited semen as well. Now that one I'd complain on rendering males unable to *come*.

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Oh, fiddlesticks.

I logged into Yahoo! Answers thinking it was The Register.

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Since I started working in RF

My headaches have all cleared up and my teeth have never been whiter

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Tin foil lining in my Calvin Kleins?

With fertility in the developed world continuing to drop combined with modern knowledge economy stresses leading to deferred child-rearing, there is or should be little incentive in these regions to introduce yet another form of contraception with completely unknown long-term consequences.

I mean seriously...if you were a male, who would not under other circumstances be required to be chemically castrated, why on earth would you chose to have your "balls busted" like this? Mmm, condom or busted balls...condom or busted balls - tricky one!

I'm guessing this one is for fire-and-forget mass contraception/neutering short term in the developing world...

If not, I demand tin foil lining in my Calvin Kleins in case someone figures out how to make portable ultrasound hit-and-fry gonad devices!

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I reckon.....

they'll build it into seats in public buildings and transport?

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How about

How about those people who are in a long term monogamous relationship? If for whatever reason the woman cannot use a contraceptive pill, or there is a good chance that it'll fail, a male contraceptive provides an alternative to forever having to wear a condom.

The other argument is that maybe men might want to have some more options for contraceptives and might want to take some control.

Anyway, after sufficient clinical trials, sign me up!

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or maybe..

There is also the fact that condoms (like everything else humans do) have a failure rate higher then zero.

Think about it like RAIDed contriception...

When you also account that this is non-invasive, and temporary it starts to gain alot of appeal to someone who is active but not wanting to be "daddy" in the near future (or have a knife in the nether-regions).

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Reminds me of Half-life 2

'The Suppression Field is a field imposed by the Combine upon gaining dominance of Earth, which prevents human procreation, and helps to keep the population in check. '

Ah so that is how they do it!

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Re: Tin foil lining in my Calvin Kleins?

I agree about the not-known long term effects but "busted balls" easily compares to the hormonal assault women have had as contraception for years, also wth side effects that are only coming to light now. I think it's time men shared the load*.

*pun not intended but still funny

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@AC, sorry for being a n00b

If the result is anything like a vasectomy, (and I have every reason to suspect it is), you just stop producing sperm. What you _don't_ stop producing is seminal fluid - which is added further along the production system, so you can still imitate a soft ice cream machine to your heart's content.

Me, I went for the permanent option years ago and never looked back.

99, anyone?

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@noob and tas

noob: no there's more to what comes out than just sperm: otherwise vasectomy would have the same effect...

tas: think of it as temporary vasectomy.

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Yeah but

Who is going to try version 1.0 of this MS product*???

I forsee a new catch-phrase: BBOD (blue balls of death)...

*OK, it's only indirectly a MS product..

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Think of it as evolution in action.

Three generations from now, everyone will be descended only from men who can produce sperm resistant to ultrasound.

We'll all be perfect specimens of homo sapiens, Long lived, disease-free, and IQs of at least 300.

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Already begun

Post night-club pregnancy is now selecting toward men able to maintain an erection under the influence of amphetamine. Probably good news all round.

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I am greatly cheered every time someone suggests a new possibility in male contraception, because it means I will shortly be entertained by watching men get all protective of their ever-lovin' nuts. Like a few ultrasound waves (or, as in the case of an Eastern European doctor who was in the news a few months back, a few volts) is going to rip your balls right off your body, or turn them purple and evil, or make them swell up and rot, or some damned thing.

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Ultrasound, painless...?

... my arse!

Having previously had ultrasound as a treatment option, I can confirm that the old ultrasound on soft tissue isn't what you'd call painless.

I'm thinking that this on your "gentleman's area" isn't going o be as fun as you'd think! It's entirely possibly that the '6-month contraception' will take the form of you being in such excruciating pain for 6 months you won't be able to!

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Nuke your 'nads, win valuable prizes

I suspect most of the readers here have been doing this for years with a variety of portable IT devices.

Due to an over-wide vent grill, I once had a dressing-gown cord/gpu fan incident with a rather nice gaming laptop. Guess I should be thankful it was ony the cord that got tangled...

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...injected new life into the concept.

Surely that's not *quite* what they had in mind?

The dirty mac, obviously.

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What's the Frequency Kenneth?

Is this the same as the ultrasound treatment I receive after a sports injury?

Reckon my Physio could make a few bob extra if she offered this as an "extra"

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I thought the problem was....

I thought the biggest obstacle to male contraception in general is that women (rightly or wrongly) believe all men to be weaselly little liars and would rather give up chocolate for lent than believe some bloke who tells them "no, its okay love. I've had my balls blasted by ultra-sound". This is why the male pill has never really taken off.

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@Bassey

One would hope the treatment is also available to couples in long term monogamous relationships. Other methods remain available for fly-by-nights if that's how people choose to conduct their bedroom* activities.

*public toilets / behind some bins - delete as necessary

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new innovations

An interesting insight to the male psyche: mention anything that involves sperm production, and you can sneak exceptionally egregious tautologies past them without them blinking.

Twice.

And I am prepared to bet Lester had a wager running on this.

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Ultrasound + balls + Bill Gates?

Blue Scream of Death!

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It's not for you lot

Can eu spell billgenics?

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Other Changes

Can the sound waves change other things, like .... flavor?

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I'm no doctor...

but I know men will still be able to ejaculate

BUT.... Will this affect libido, I'm not sure how it works with hormones et al but woman's contraceptives decrease libido, would this do the same?

Apart from answering that, having a nice young lady massages my balls with gel then get up close and personal with a machine sounds great!

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I use ultrasound...

... to stop the neighbour's dog from shitting all over our garden.

We have no kids.

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1 shot, painless, no consumable, no surgery, still ejaculate

China.

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