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The Australian government appears confused as to whether or not it will try to pass laws concerning net filtering before a general election. The Australian Labor party has previously promised to pass laws that would oblige ISPs to apply net filters to block pornography and other illegal content. Critics argue that the measures …

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Ozzy Oz-born

Bloody socialist and this new interweb thing, you are only allowed access to information we have authoris(z)ed comrade.

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Oh dear

This has nothing to do with socialism mate.

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It's the god botherers fault

The Govt knows it won't work

You know it won't work

I know it won't work...

The religious fundies know nothing.

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Wont work

Im a so called religious fundy - and even I know it wont work (additionally, I dont think it should work either).

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Happy

You would appear....

....to be far too enlightened to be a religious fundamentalist.

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IT Angle

check your facts

As the gov in Oz is a atheocratic state, run by "practical" materialists, like other western once democracies, how do you deduce god bothers are involved ?

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Alien

The xtian lobby is strong in Oz

There are various xtian groups applying great pressure on the govt to 'ban' all of life's nasty bits.

At least as far as they apply to the various sky-god myths. Personally, I find the contents of the bible just as offensive as some Internet content, but then that's just me.

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God botherers in the Senate

Simply because one of the independent senators holding the balance of power in the upper house is from Family First - the fundy political wing. And since KRudd and his merry men need his vote, this is one of the 'sweeteners' to get him onside to support other bills.

Pure politics at the cost of our freedoms.

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Pint

Deduction, my dear Watson

Well, that's easy. Not only are both our current prime minister and a very important independant senator fundamentalist Christians (even going so far as to be considered New Earth Creationists apparently, the senator anyway), we have something called the Australian Christian Lobby. They have a shocking amount of staying power. If you ever get bored, go have a look around their website.

It's chilling to know that these people are the ones that got a signed promise from a state government promising them that the new Attorney General for that state would stand against a R18+ rating for games, regardless of what he thought.

You may think we are atheocratic here, but we are anything but. This ISP filter alone should prove that.

On the upside, we have a lot of beer...

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About 50% of Oz politicians are church-going christians, as opposed to about 20% of the general populace.

Minister for Censorship Conroy is a fundamentalist young-Earth creationist and I have my suspicions about Kevin Rudd who is among the avowed church-goers.

How much more evidence do you want?

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Digital Economy Bill

Hmm bet that the Aussies have looked at the Digital Economy Bill and realised that if ever there was a way to get some ill thought out legislation through, then in a hurry just before an election is the way to do it.

Democracy at work.

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Paris Hilton

rc Rated ??

what does that mean

Sorry being a bit blonde !!

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Paris Hilton

I'm going with...

Restricted Content, at a guess.

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Refused Classification

see title

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RC=Refused Classification

RC=Refused Classification -- i.e. in Australia, if a game is considered unsuitable for "mature accompanied" 15 year or older child then it is refused a classification and is effectively banned. Or for film, if a movie is considered unsuitable for an adult over the age of 18 then it is refused even the highest classification of X18+ (and so banned).

There are two sets of guidelines -- one for "film and computers games" and another for "publications". What category does the internet fall under? Particularly when some classes of "restricted" content can only be distributed in a sealed opaque wrapper.

Happy to make that clearer!

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It stands for...

Refused Classification. (Interestingly, it includes all computer games that elsewhere in the world would be classified R18+, as Australia does not have an adult game classification. That means they will have to ban a lot of online retail sites.)

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rc Rated..

RC = Refused Classification

In Australia this covers a whole lot of things, including 18+ video games.

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"Film and computers games"

There isn't a combined guideline for film and video games, otherwise we wouldn't currently be involved in a shitfight over R18 classification for video games.

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Blondie

The OZ RC category is widely understood to mean "Over Zealous Religious Censorship". Won't be long before they adopt the UK lunacy of having unelected bishops voting in their legislature.

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@Sorry being a bit blonde !!

Don't tar all blond(e)s with the same brush. I was a cute bubbly blond as a kid with an IQ of 158 as certified by Mensa.

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Terminator

Me too !

I was certified when I was a kid. I just wanted to know how the neighbour's cats worked. I offered to buy them new ones. Such a fuss......

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Kids' IQs...

are kind of screwed up because they adjust for your real age, which skews things massively. Your adult IQ is the only one that matters, and even then it doesn't really.

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@blue eyed boy

Hitler would have loved you.

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Paris Hilton

Euthenasia

I've seen the pr0n they make.

She's a fan, too.

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@ Lionel Baden

RC = "Refused Classification". The stuff that is not given a rating.

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An experiment in censorship?

I'm wondering if you can win an election if your web site doesn't work. What happens if anonymous starts taking down anyone who is serving ads for the Labor party or the government. I'm wondering if the media companies can be forced into disappearing the labor party by systematic attacks on their revenue streams. If this law gets pushed much more, I'm thinking we will find out.

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Don't be misled

They'll shelve it and then introduce it in the first sitting of the new Parliament. They're just taking it off the front pages leading up to the election.

My vote's going to the Australian Sex Party.

Don't believe me? Google it.

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It's the Family First Senator...

That the gov needs on side. He's a God botherer. Maybe the Passion of the Christ will get blacklisted too, that'll teach him.

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this is why they took away our guns :(

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They're waiting for you to riot

They want to know whether you will do anything to protect your rights.

They're 90% sure that you won't, but just to be on the safe side they are giving you plenty of opportunities to prove them wrong.

They can and will ignore letters and DDoS attacks. If a letter is all that stands in-between the government and your rights, you have no rights in any meaningful way.

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Lions for RC

There are never enough lions around. For the lovely church-going community we need more lions. They're hungry & Christians were always the preferred poison.

Joke Alert: Why was the lion licking another lion's butt?

It had just eaten a Christian & was trying to get the taste out.

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