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The next-generation iPhone will have a new flat-back design, front- and back-facing cameras, a MicroSIM slot, a larger battery, and a higher-resolution display - according to a spate of photo-enriched rumors flooding the intertubes. Over the weekend, Engadget published photos of what it claims to be an iPhone 4G prototype that …

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Anonymous Coward

The evidence seems overwhelming

that this device originated in the bowels of Cupertino. Not that it's necessarily anything other than an engineering prototype, and there's every chance that even if it really is the real deal Jobso will bin it and start over.

However, if this in fact the design direction Ive & co are taking the iPhone, I very much approve: it looks like a grown-up's phone. With an A4 processor and up to 64GB, it might well be the iPhone that nudges me into getting one, although I suspect Gizmodo won't have theirs for very much longer. Still, they can join El Reg on the "Not Invited To Apple Launches" bench.

One prediction that I can make with 100% certainty: the word "Crapple" will appear somewhere in this discussion page (other than in this sentence).

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"Crapple" indeed

And why wouldn't they call Apple "Crapple". It's no different from writing M$ or Linsux. Has anyone called anyone a shill yet?? That's always hilarious.

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Anonymous Coward

Looks nice...

...but you'd expect the screen to flush with the "metal".

And is it just me...but it doesn't look very "apple-y"? Looks more like a Nokia than an Apple. Not exactly a gigantic leap forward in form or function from the 1st gen.

There's no apathetic "meh" icon?

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Anonymous Coward

Yup...

Looks like a Nokia, has a video conferencing camera like a Nokia, has a flash on the camera like a Nokia.

Who knows, it might actually be a good phone like a .....

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Not the final article

I'm sure Jonathan Ive is still working away at the final case design. This would be an early prototype to test the insides of the phone, and engineering will have knocked together a cheap case to hold everything together.

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RE: Yup...

^^^ for a moment I thought you were going to say "Nokia".

Then I remembered the three Nokia's that I've had.

(btw my last Motorola had two cameras, a flash and looked slightly like that...)

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@ac 04:11

A motorola? Nokias are sh!t

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get real...

its a prototype.... it proberbly looks nothing like the final product...

the final product design will be hidden away in a locked vault that no fanboy will see that doesnt need to...

the people making the internals will a spec to work within.... the case it is in will just be a "this will make it easy for us to hold !!

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Keep Ive off

This looks quite good, it absolutely doesn't need the graduate from the Mr. Blobby school of design to convert it into one of his trademark whitewashed cowpats.

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WTF?

Ever heard of theft ?

I saw this on engadget, and not a single consideration seems to have been given to handing this to the bar or local police station.

Am I the only one who would do this if I found anything worth more than 5 quid or so ? I mean FFS you find a very valuable phone and your first thoughts are 'ooo I'm gonna steal this and try to find out what it is'

WTF is wrong with people these days. Tell me this is just an american thing. :-(

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I thought that...

...but then I read one of the stories and it says the guy who found it tried ringing Apple several times, even getting as far as raising a ticket number! But that nobody from Apple had called back, so after a couple of weeks he decided to see if anyone else was interested.

I'd say he'd made more than reasonable attempts to return the item, so he should be fine.

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straight to the top...

shame he didn't email SJ - would hve been amusing to see the reply.

probably would have been along the lines of:

Dont move! thats the cops smashing your front door in.

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re: I thought that...

According to Gizmondo, when the guy was looking through the information on the phone, there was a Facebook app with a page for Gray Powell.

The next day, the device had been remotely disabled, so he did the thing all of us would do... he pried the device apart.

I have no doubt that when he says he phoned Apple a few times, he did and I'm sure he couldn't have done anymore to return the device!

It does look like Gizmondo could be sued under California's Uniform Trade Secrets Act... but why wait so long to break the story?

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Stop

Yeah but...

How about you simply mail it back to Apple recorded post or whatever the US equivalent is?

If I had found a prototype, I would be so paranoid that they were after me, I'd drive the sodding thing back to the HQ and hand it over to the reception or ask for a the head of R&D! Say, I found this and I don't want anything to do with it, sign anything to ensure I have nothing more to do with it!

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Joke

Steve Jobs' response (before the cry of "D'oh!")...

Stop making stuff up.

Sent from my iPad.

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Coat

ever heard of...

finders keepers....losers weepers.

Mine is the one with a miniture Richard Stilgoe in the pocket.

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Coat

lost in a bar?

Right... lost... And I'm sure the employee, if ever revealed, was paid a princely sum to take an early retirement and to "lose" the phone. Why pay ad agencies when fanbois will happily do all your marketing for you?

Coat: "Hmmm.... there sure is a pocketful of money in my pocket, I can't seem to find a place for my 4g phone, whoopsie!"

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RE: lost in a bar?

"Right... lost... And I'm sure the employee, if ever revealed, was paid a princely sum to take an early retirement and to "lose" the phone."

If you read the article, you'd see that: "When he launched that app, it took him to the Facebook page of Gray Powell."

Who happens to be an Apple employee...

Of course, having someone else's phone, knowing it's someone elses phone and then selling it to a third party for $10k is knowingly selling on stolen goods (but that's another story)

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gizcriminal

So basically, they knowingly bought another persons property from someone, and then destroyed it ? Hope they get prosecuted.

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Accidental loss??

I think these things are 'planted' not lost. It's good free (to an extent) publicity for them.

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Agree

that it's a plant. Apple would never allow their employees to take such a unit out unless it was completely disguised. I'm guessing they're testing the market to see if sufficient people will be interested in a phone with these features.

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Not really

Leaking pictures this way to keep things interesting, yes. But leaking a full device (even a prototype) into the hands of the media several months before Apple announces the thing... never.

Apple will totally hate this. If that is the real thing, there will be hardly anything left to announce later.

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Taking one's importance far too seriously

Thinking this is a plant is taking geekdom far too seriously. The iPhone isn't marketed to geeks, and 99.9% of all iPhone buyers woudn't know what Gizmondo was, and woudn't care if you told them. Apple have tens of billions in the bank, and one of the most well oiled publicity machines on the planet, the world's press fall over themselves to report on every word Steve says, - and they resort to losing phones in pubs? Hardly.

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It's a plant...

If it was truly lost, the owner (Apple?) would have reported it to the police. Especially as it's an engineering sample of a "secret" product.

And the iPhone's market my not be geeks, but they really do get a lot of free hype from fanbois. It's these fanbois who obsess over websites with rumours and leaks about the next "revolutionary" device. Most people who own an iPhone only own it because a fanboi hyped it up to them in some way. Paying someone to "drop" a sample version of the next big product is a very cheap ad - device value would be in the hudreds of dollars, but the advertising effect is worth millions.

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RE: Agree

"Apple would never allow their employees to take such a unit out unless it was completely disguised."

It was hidden in a 3g case (now removed)

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Coat

It's the Time Traveller's WiFi

Er, iPhnoe. Some DrWhovian assistant dropped it. From the future- there are no 4G networks in the present, duh!

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@Anonymous Coward

"Crapple"

Ask and you will receive

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Oh for c**p's sake

we've just got over the endless useless speculation over the iSlate/iPad/iWhatever and now we have to fill column inches over the next iThingy

I really think some people need to get a life

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@Bill B

*YOU* decided to read the article.

No-one made you do it.

...besides which, there are countless stories every week about the latest security flaw in whichever MS "operating system" (a term used in the loosest possible way) is flavour of the month.

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Stevie wan Jobobi would say

This is not the phone you are looking for.

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Black Helicopters

"They're going to see it all eventually, so who cares how they get it?"

Something to do with this?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/27/steve_jobs_and_eric_schmidt/

Another day, another coffee shop.

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That's

exactly what I was thinking.

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"They're going to see it all eventually, so who cares how they get it?"

Hear, hear! I completely agree.

...

Hang on, we ARE talking about sex ed in schools, aren't we?

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Tit-le

"Hang on, we ARE talking about sex ed in schools, aren't we?"

No - in many states in the US sex-ed is not allowed in school. (Particularly in the south.) It something that should be learned at home - with one's younger sister. (Again particularly in the south.)

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Hmmmm

I need a new phone. Guess I should stop hanging in East Bay coffee shops and head south.

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Rumor Mill - leak

I too think this is a planned, planted leak.

Current 3GS is no longer the king of the hill in some respects, and the new version still has some more time to go. This is just to divert some users sitting on the fence from switching over to Android (Motorola Droid, Nexus One, HTC Desire, etc).

.. And maybe divert attention some from recent app store policies..

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Exactly!

So I take it that this new 4G iPhone doesn't come with a timed lock on it then? Would Apple really allow bods out into the worlds with the lock NOT engaged? I don't think so.

As for the reported phone itself. Meh - doesn't do anything for me over the latest Android phones. What's happened to the _innovation_ ?

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Re: Exactly

"What's happened to the _innovation_ ?"

It's being sued for patent violations.

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Leak

Sounds like a highly feasible theory to me. All the iPhone fanbois are about to be on the receiving end of some serious retribution at the hands of Android zealots, who are sick of all the smug gloating they've had to live with all this time, and gagging for a chance to prove they're no better than their sworn enemies.

This will give the Apple fans a nice little comeback: "but the new version of my phone's out soon, and it's even better than your Desire / N1 / X10". Why can't we all just get along, eh? But in the mean time - hahhaaha, my Desire's much better than your iPhone!

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WTF?

amazingly enough.....

I have two Macs, two iPods, and an iPhone and even I'm getting burned out on Apple news. "The constant trolls it attracts do not help."

Honestly, I love Apple, but seriously, there are other things to talk about.

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Other things to talk about

There may (Apple is good) be other things (Steve Jobs is God) to talk about (Buy an iPhone). But noe of them (you need an iPad) are nearly as (... and a Mac) interesting or useful (Apple Apple Apple Apple...).

Anyway, these days (Apple makes the best hardware) Apple is the flavour (Apple makes the best operating system) of the month. (Steve Wozniak is the Betrayer.) There's even a fruit named after them! (Apple Apple Apple Apple...)

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WTF?

Theft by finding, anyone?

I don't know about USA, but here in Australia if you report the loss of something valuable to the police, someone can't sell what ou've reported as lost. I think you don't even have to report it; I think it is actually an offence to NOT hand in anything worth more than about $10.

Posting pictures of it all over the Internets would be a very stupid thing to do in Australia, and I am guessing the US has similar laws of some sort. They certainly stop people 'finding' cars on the side of the road!

Hence I call this thing a fake, though maybe a good one, but they fail one major point - the alleged 4G shown is so ugly it could only date from 1996 or actually be a WindowsCE device of some sort. Apple don't make ugly stuff these days, whereas everyone else seems to have a fetish for bloody awful design.

If it is a protoyype, then it is in a test-bed casing and maybe the internals are real. I really hope Apple aren't going to try to sell something that looks like a 1998 Dell.

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Plant?

I find it hard to believe this is a plant. The gadget press will go nuts when iPhone 4 comes out anyway, and right now I would imagine Apple are quite happy having loads of stories about the iPad kicking around. Why would they deliberately compete with the plenty of free publicity they are still getting for another major product?

I also find it hard to believe that this is exactly what the new iPhone might look like, those seams are not very Apple at all, but I guess the innards are the hard part, not the case.

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Tables just seem to wobble in bars

so no need for one of those under a leg.

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Its Not a 4G its an iPhone HD!

as I have posted many times before!

anon cos apple is watching...

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WiMAX

Of course. For it to be an "iPhone 4G", it would have to implement WiMAX like the HTC Evo.

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Lau

Somehow...

Somehow that phone reminds me of the fake Chinese iPhones

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Grenade

Leak?

If you think this was a controlled leak, you've not been paying attention.

This was not planned.

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Close but no cigar

It's a seriously nice looking piece of kit, and those suspected features (noise cancelling second mic?!) look very nice as well!

Shame it'll run a version of Mac OSX, and be handcuffed to iTunes and the Apple mafia... Android or Palm for me it remains then thanks!

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Plant?

A plant would be absolute marketing genius.

If I can summarise the objectives of the plant in words: 'Please stop buying our current best-selling product as we have something much better coming out in several months time. We want to stop selling so many phones in the meantime as we are making far too much money.'

Hmmm - maybe not a plant after all.

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