French experts have roundly condemned British research which concluded that the legendary G-spot is probably a myth. The King's College London team declared that the Gräfenberg Spot "may be a figment of women's imagination, encouraged by magazines and sex therapists" and that it was "rather irresponsible to claim the existence …
Science vs hocus pocus
"It cannot be reduced to a yes or no or an on or off."
In science, it can. In astrology, numerology and g-spot-ology, it cannot.
Perhaps this shows they do Science differently in France than in uptight Anglo-Saxon countries. After all, why choose to seek objective evidence if you can ask people if they believe in it?
Hey - perhaps if we asked enough people, we could Scientifically prove the existence of Bigfoot, God and Lunar Elvis.
Good luck with that
How often do binary answers work in psychology or indeed physiology?
If it isn't exact it isn't science.
The French are right
And believe me fellas, once you find it and get to know how to make it work, it'll bring her to a level of ecstasy you've never seen before.
...and I always enjoy how she thanks me afterwards!
My sentiments exactly.
@ Tony Green
I'm also in the "I can find it" club. It's great isn't it!!!!
You speak the truth. Those who are thumbdowning your post just aren't doing it right, or trying hard enough, or often enough, or with enough people, or something.
perhaps they are just imagining sex
or perhaps not doing it on a real woman.
.. you have a point. Maybe the blow-up versions should be equipped with one as well, just for training purposes.
And then send a few to King's College, they certainly need it..
Line of the week
'The researchers probed 1,800 women, identical and non-identical twins, expecting that if the G-spot existed, "both identical twins, who have the same genes, would report having one".'
One wonders how they probed the women and how one gets such a job?
Maybe the probe wasn't large enough?
It's not how large your probe is
..it's what you do with it
I'm sure our English scientists are coming up with a counter to this as we speak. It doesn't matter how good it is, the French will soon surrender if we look vaguely like we intend to win.
the French will soon surrender
Reminds me of Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) when he said "if it's funny the first time, it's funny every time !".
Except, of course, that Calvin is just a kid.
researchers probed 1,800 women, identical and non-identical twins
Time for a change of job.
Back of the bloody line sunshine!
Quite right too
how stupid and inept the british researchers are! I bet they were all men whose research was just asking other men down the pub if any of them had ever found a womans g-spot. The answer came back 'No' so they had another pint and then went back to the office to write up their conclusions.... durrrrrrr, dah, ummmmm, durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
They couldn't find "something brightly coloured and obvious" in a "well lit and sign-posted environment"
Hit a sore spot?
You need to get a new bf/husband me thinks.
@Sarah Davis: STFU
I guess you claim to have a G-spot. When you survey 1800 other women and collate your findings, then you can come back and argue.
Everybody who disagrees with a scientific conclusion with the word 'subjective' or 'probably' in it because it isn't true for them needs to remember that the plural of the word 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
Notice that they are not claiming that it doesn't exist. They are claiming that its existence is 'subjective'. It appears to have no basis in genetics, so it is either something environmentally based or something psychosomatic.
Of course, I might have just fed the troll..........
Yep, damn those male british scientists coming to stupid conclusions because theyre so dumb.
The only minor little place that complaint falls down at is that the lead scientist, Andrea Burri, is neither male or british. She's a female genetic epidemiologist from switzerland. What does that say to your and these french muppets' conclusions?
So that's were it is.
Thanks for the update, I'll go and have a look now.
....we're not all like that Sarah, some of us are prepared to go on for hours if you know what I mean :)
unscientific study yields unscientific results" shocker!!
I remember reading about this "study" when it first was published last year, and from what I could understand it consisted of ASKING each of the 1800 women if they had G-Spot. No actual 'probing' was involved.
So the frenchie is right, it just proves brit women don't know where to find their g-spot or never looked hard enough.
So what you're saying . . .
. . . is that the lead scientist is from the only European nation renowned for being even more uptight and stodgy than England?
The all that matter for woman isn't existence of G-spot or not, but the feel of being complemented at all levels beside just sex. In sex terms, if she can achieve one or multiple climaxes then even better. But for that isn't even necessary to find where their G-spot is...
Too much focus on G-spot like if it was something like a mechanical ignition engine...
I wonder if all these scientists are looking in the wrong place LOL
Soon the scientists will find out that the disapearence of G-spots is related to man made climate change. :)
I'm afraid chaps, that this time the garlic-eating surrender monkeys are right!!
Certainly an attractive contract position though, when is the follow-up research project kick-off??
Live from the press conference
Just Tell The Truth
The researchers at King's College just need to own up and admit that they're crap in bed and haven't got the faintest idea what they're doing. It's definitely there and if you know what you're looking for and how to use it...boom!
Mine's the one with the ecstatically happy woman who'll do pretty much anything afterwards
Well blow me down, the English cannot find the noses on their faces !
If I were not English this would seem like an insult to the English.
Being English I have ample clear evidence that this is true right across our culture, politics, law, marketing, fiscal policies.
In this case, the results showed that the identical twins were, "no more likely to share a G-spot than non-identical twins".
Which says more about our superstious beliefs surrounding twins, than it proves or otherwise anything about a womans biological system.
For F*cks sake, the avarage British man has no clues as to the workings a woman's mind. So deliberating about the G spot might be better conducted and have more success if the research was done in bed, rather than in a lab.
By the way, I do know where the G spot is and if any of our female readers would like a hand to find theirs, get in touch do. This PC does not have one, definitely ! But then neither does a MAC and Linux also definitely not, up to now anyways.
So what did you do today dear?
Other halves of researchers not going to be best pleased!
Maybe it is just ...
... the British scientists that are doing it wrong?
If I touch this bit here is it good to go?
Oh? The test tubes and beakers are in the way.
<aside to lab assistant> can you move the camera and sensors over there please? Ta.
Oops! Watch you don't twist or pull on any of the wires.
durrrrrrr, dah, ummmmm, durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
If you constantly portray men as neanderthal dunces don't be surprised if that is exactly what you end up with.
Of course some women prefer that, but if you have an ounce of self respect left you shouldn't be perpetuating this sexist myth.
Two patriotic fingers up to the French for claiming that _all_ Brits are bedroom fumblers. I'm British and I know exactly where it is on my Mrs.
"It cannot be reduced to a yes or no or an on or off."
Presumably the French are suggesting that it can be reduced instead to a yes, yes, yes or no...
Mine's the one with what she's having.
The English researchers clearly don't watch the same pr0n that I do....
Oh. I, er, said that out loud didn't I?
<--- the one with the jazz mag in the pocket
To the french...
Which is the greater sexual accomplishment...
finding the g-spot
finding 1800 willing volunteers, including various sets of twins, who will allow you to search them for it?
The problem with the research is that they didn't probe anything. They didn't go looking for anything. They asked a group of identical and non identical twin sisters and then tried to find a difference between the two.
Now on that methodology if 100% of there sample had said yes I have a G spot the answer coming out of the research would have still said G-Spots don't exist.
Now in my limited experience of twin sisters I'd say they are usually pretty damn close. I would have thought that if one sis found her G-Spot then within minutes of coming down again she'd be on the phone to sis giving full details.
As far as I know they didn't include a control sample of randomly chosen pairs of women to see whether the incidence of G-spot discovery in twins is the same as the incident in non twins.
It would also have been nice if they'd included a figure as to the simple percentage of people in their sample groups who claimed to have one.
control sample of randomly chosen pairs of women
No wonder you are dazed and confused. The non-idetical twins _are_ the control group.
>>Now in my limited experience of twin sisters
Yes, exactly the point. Which is why you can compare identical and non-identical twins and make some sort of claims about their genetic make up.
>>randomly chosen pairs of women
Who are not straight on the phone to sis? How would that help?
Protestant, liberal, Anglo-Saxon
Maybe if we find the gene for Frenchness, somebody will come up with a cure.
They are looking for a cure
Unfortunately its British Scientists that are looking for it, so far all they have established is if a cure does exist it doesn’t contain garlic, onions, wine, cheese or body odor
Au fond, a droite
That's where you'll find it. Cor blimey, that's one heated Friday debate! I'm enjoying that, thanks El Reg!
Ps: Once again, I'm proud to be French, get yourself a sense of humour Liam Johnson!
GALAHAD: He says they've already got one!
ARTHUR: Are you sure he's got one?
GUARD: Oh, yes, it's very nice-a [To Other Guards] I told him we already got one.
OTHER GUARDS: [Laughing]
ARTHUR: Well, um, can we come up and have a look?
GUARD: Of course not! You are English types-a!
What is your view on this? We need a female perspective.
Tony Green and the French are right
Once you know how to find it any woman will be yours after the first time with you... :-)
Let those nerdy scientists believe whatever they want, they have probably seen women's intimates only in textbooks and on porn sites anyway...
The French do have a point
There - never thought I'd say it but I just did, the French are right. That said over the years I find myself agreeing with the French more and more and more, what's going on there. Do the French in general have more common sence than us British; or are British polaticians just a bunch of wuse's.
That said I can thing of some university types who though how do we meet women, enjoyed it and set the results in a way that they could then revisit that whole area and do some new research later on. Seriously - had they found it, they wouldn't be allowed to go looking for it again now would they as that would be a waste of money as we would know all about it. Think about it. How much money is spent trying to find Atlantis, yet if they found it, then there would be no money available for more adventures as it would already be known.
British - cunning sexual genius's or just lost compared to the French. Alas given exams students get thesedays I'll sadly lean towards the French being the winners and I'm British.
Using real name as anon sounds too french too me :D.
Penguin as its closest I can see to a fish.
"It cannot be reduced to a yes or no or an on or off."
I thought that was the point of it though, that a G-spot was a location that when stimulated results in intense sexual pleasure (or orgasm)?
If it moves around or can't be found then by definition it does not exist (for the individual concerned)
Of course there's a G-Spot
I've found it and my fantastically attractive wife does all sorts of sordid things to me to thank me for my fabulous prowess in the bedroom.
She's quite clearly not faking it so that I feel better about myself. I'm not lying either, I'm a sex stallion rather than an IT worker who smells slightly of cabbage and has only had sex with one woman. I mean, it's not as if I live in a culture of bragging that forces me to claim to be fantastic in bed and makes me think that being just 'OK' makes me a total failure.
And all my partner's previous sexual partners pale into insignificance compared to me. She told me that so it must be true, she'd tell me if I was the 17th best she'd ever had wouldn't she?
A female gynaecologistg called Bush? Really?
French vs English in the bedroom
I once heard of a survey conducted in England and France to find out what people's favourite records were to listen to while making love.
All the Frenchmen's answers were 33s, whereas all the Englishmen's answers were 45s.