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A French woman earned the rare distinction over the weekend of becoming a wife and widow at the same moment, when she married her dead fiancé. Magali Jaskiewicz , 26, got hitched on Saturday to a portrait of Jonathan Goerge in the town of Dommary-Baroncourt. The pair had originally planned to tie the knot in January this year, …

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Paris Hilton

Religion

If I remember from my high school RE lessons, many religions don't recognise a marriage until it has been consummated.

Short of necrophilia with an 11 month old corpse, I don't see how this can really be classed as a marriage*, and thus she isn't really a widow.

Or something like that.

*Note: I accept that she had the wedding, but that's not the same thing as a marriage.

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Dead Vulture

Sad but understandable;

french laws does not recognise legal rights for non married cohabitees, this fudge alowws her to be registered as his widow and be eligible for various benefits. Shows what an ass the law is that people have to jump through these hoops.

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Gav
Boffin

Religion

France is a secular republic. Religion makes no difference to her legal status as married & widowed.

So what "many religions recognise" only matters if the bride wants it to. She doesn't, therefore they don't.

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Anonymous Coward

@AC 13:02

What's religion got to do with a civil ceremony?

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Re: AC 13:02

Yes, but who gives a fuck about religion?

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Anonymous Coward

unfortunate surnames

From the wikipedia page on Consummation and Catholic law - "spouses have performed between themselves in a human fashion a conjugal act which is suitable in itself for the procreation of offspring, to which marriage is ordered by its nature and by which the spouses become one flesh."

Thus some theologians, such as Fr. John A. Hardon, state that intercourse with contraception does not consummate a marriage."

Mr Hardon, more than anyone should know that...

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Def
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WTF?

Re: Religion

Who cares what any religion thinks these days?

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Religion

Doesn't really come into it, but if you are that worried, it looks like the consumation happened beforehand.

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Consummation

"Thus some theologians, such as Fr. John A. Hardon, state that intercourse with contraception does not consummate a marriage." - AC 13:21

I do hope this is the official church point of view, because following that thinking, pre-marital and inter-marital intercourse is not a sin :D

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Joke

a question

If she got married "to a portrait of Jonathan Goerge"...

Was he well hung?

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what?

You can marry a photograph? And get all the state benefits? But what if the photograph is of a person of the same gender?

Can't offend religionists, I guess, because no sex act can follow. Of course, it depends on what you can do with paper.

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Big Brother

French 10 Mega Pixel Swinger

Knowing that the Frenchmen's virility knows no bounds, could we be in for a photographic booth style divorce case a bit down the road as the fiance/wife/Widow finds the Photo hubby in bed with a photo of Jordan for example.

If she believes the photo is her wedded husband, anything is possible and most times is.

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Happy

Uncanny order of comments

Three posts expressing the same thought is nothing new. However, the immediate progression of eloquence from Gav to Micky 1 to Davos Summit is, quite simply, priceless.

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That's a good thing

Considering they had 2 kids, it's very nice that the French government allowed this to happen--giving her eligibility for his benefits. It's jumping through hoops, but it's not like they can just allow co-habiting couples to have the same benefits as married--that would turn into such a courtroom clusterfuck that you'd never get anything done.

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Pirate

@ Hollerith

"Of course, it depends on what you can do with paper."

Think bog roll and a free hand... although in her case, the bog roll would be for the tears :-(

Pirate icon, although she won't be getting boarded any time soon...

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Pint

Name

Why is Caput not a good name for a mayor? It means 'head' in Latin and fits just perfectly.

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Joke

Not much

If you thought the wedding ceremony wasn't much, wait til you hear about the honeymoon.

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WTF?

Suggest that this might occur in the UK

And watch the Daily Mails Melanie Phillips head explode

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Anonymous Coward

French law

Actually, for those who ignore that, French law does allow for a lot of benefits for unmarried couples, there are several options, from "concubinage" (just living together) to "PACS" (official agreement, which can be same-sex).

So I'm personally doubtful that benefits were the only reason for that marriage.

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Pirate

@replies

> If I remember from my high school RE lessons, many religions don't recognise a marriage

> until it has been consummated.

Erm, they consummated twice. Qouting the article:

| Goerge and Jaskiewicz had been together for five years, and had two young daughters

> Why is Caput not a good name for a mayor? It means 'head' in Latin and fits just perfectly.

The Germans prefer to differ...

Skull and crossbones. Necro at it's strangest.

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Unhappy

Not tryng to be a white knight but

I find this kind of sad, it's not really very funny.

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Go

Almost completely off topic, but...

in some orthodox christian communities, like those in Romania or Moldova, it is believed, that anyone who dies unmarried, and is at least eight years old at the time of death, will eventually come back as a ghost, or even as a vampire. There is only one way to prevent this: To marry unlucky deceased with somebody who share the same fate, so their spirits can together live happily...errrm....ever after. Hence romanian "Nunta mortului", or "Wedding of the dead".

A bit grisly folk custom, granted, but since no one is hurt....I must assume that being alone for all eternity sucks big time.

And this wedding does not prevent the french lady from marrying someone else in the future.

So, why the heck not.

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Coat

"He's a dead ringer for your hubby"

Sorry - couldn't resist it.

But surely this content falls foul of Britain's shiny new extreme porn law?

Mine's the coat drenched in formaldehyde

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