The BNP's "membership list" has been leaked for the second time in a year, it's claimed today. Wikileaks has posted an Excel spreadsheet containing just over 16,000 identities, including many addresses and phone numbers. The list is dated up to April 15 this year. The BNP said it had not yet confirmed whether the list was …
Begging for it..
"Fined £200 for leaking the data" - HAHAHAHAHAAAA. Whohahahaha. Hihihi, hihi, hihihiHAHAHAHA. Cough, splutter, so.. hahaha, haha, gnigni, hihi, sorry, snirf. And you call THAT law enforcement? Hihihi.
No wonder the sale of blank CDs to government has gone up, haha, and their approach to handling disclosure risk will be something appropriate like closing the railway services to stop data being left on trains. I'm positive the unions will assist by calling a postal strike too.
Best. laugh. ever. There is no chance this problem will ever be solved if there aren't stiff fines associated with that. I can't see what that isn't happening, current government officials would not land in jail anyway as they have conveniently ensured they are full already. For once good planning..
(yeah, I'm a cynic. So sue me).
BNP members not so bad, leaders need to go.
A lot of the 'senior' BNP members and Mr Griffin need to leave the party if it is to have any chance of real political success. The bulk or the party's membership are actually your average Joe Brit who has a regular job, wife, 2 kids and a dog. probably attracted by a lot of the great points in the BNP manifesto.
Get rid of griffin and co and get new leaders.
also - new BNP public policy should be 'If your a British citizen regardless of race/colour/religion or sexual orientation you are welcome here.'
They'd certainly get my vote if they do the above.
If it's hater's data, then the leak should be hater-haters' data?
Fascists at Work ..... and All a'Panic in a Pickle of their Own Making.
"Both Wikileaks and the BNP suggested some of the names listed may not be members."
If any names listed are not members, is the publication a desperate forgery, and in a free democracy, a criminal smear tactic and action of the Intellectually Challenged?
One would have thought that after the 45 Minutes Iraq Debacle, that the Idiots would have left and/or been escorted from the Building ....... leaving the Business of FutureBuilding to those with the Right Royal Rolls Royce Savvy. Obviously the parasites and worms remain.
Oh, and if anyone asks you can tell them that there is no Place in Space for Politicians for they are not nearly well enough Educated to Communicate with Global Operating Devices and Satellite Receiver Play Stations.
He'll be upset
One of the entries is a lecturer in human rights and data protection.
Lots of hate here ...
...all of it directed against the BNP. What happened to tolerance?
Frankly I am more afraid of those who think political intimidation is acceptable than of anything I hear about the BNP.
I thiought the last time the list was published it was concluded that it was a mailing list rather than a membership list.
So it's reasonable to assume that there are members on there (in both senses of the word) and ex-members, and that is fair enough. Unfortunately however it may well include the details of anybody who has ever corresponded with them in any way shape or form. Worse still, in common with most mailing lists, a lot of the addresses will probably be out of date so I can see this data being misintepreted by the sort of morons who would act on this sort of data.
On first hearing this story it sounds kind of funny and a Good Thing, but the more you think about how this data may be used it's probably a bad thing.
If this is a genuine leak intended to discredit, it'll probably have the reverse effect.
At a time when the other parties are rapidly losing credibility, if the BNP has genuinely gained 100,000 members the other parties have something to worry about; on the other hand it could have been deliberately leaked…
@ King John
"new BNP public policy should be 'If your a British citizen regardless of race/colour/religion or sexual orientation you are welcome here.' They'd certainly get my vote if they do the above."
Then they wouldn't be the BNP!
Shamlessly stolen from The Now Show
Showing national distaste for the BNP is getting us now where, no body likes them and they don't care and all that.
What we need to do is all join the BNP, vote Sir Trevor McDonald in as leader and change their name to something silly like Badgers, Not Potatoes.
That'd shut them up
Was there a point there?
what a surprise.
Oh right - that's what passes for "humour" with the PHUX fanboi (note the singular noun!)
Including a Peer !!!!
Is that a long walk off a short pier?
"Both Wikileaks and the BNP suggested some of the names listed may not be members."
That list is worthless then, what’s the point in leaking rubbish? It just means all the useful stuff they post is discredited by association with the website itself.
Which is sad for a website that serves such a useful purpose.
Who is it? Lib Lab Con or...
MI5, freemasonry, rainbow girls, order of the eastern star, order of demolay, grotto, tall cedars of lebanon, order of the nights of malta, order of the red cross, royal arch, york rite, scottish rite, daughters of the nile, shriner, shrine, the pope, the papal, vatican, the pacific institute, common purpose, tavistock institute, mansfield miners welfare, jobs daughters, order of the knights templar, the meruvians, the windsors, the rothschilds the frankish dynasty?
@Ex-IT - All new memberships have had 100,000 added to the ID, either to make it look like the ranks have swelled, or just to delimit them from the older entries.
"Frankly I am more afraid of those who think political intimidation is acceptable than of anything I hear about the BNP"
You need to get out a bit more and stop reading the BNP press releases.
What do you think the BNP are doing if it's not political intimidation ?
IF nobody likes them, how come they got almost 1million votes, and 2 European Seats?
it's more like the bmp 'bumped up' the membership I.D. By 100,000 for new members to make it *look* like they are getting huge numbers of new members when in fact their numbers or paying members have not rised that dramatically...
anyone from stop the bnp be willing to help me organise stop the snp and stop clyde cymru?
Nope? Just another step in new labour's positive discrimination on the way to positive aparthied.
"Showing national distaste for the BNP is getting us now where, no body likes them and they don't care and all that."
Actually it's absolutely the right way to deal with these spanners. Well applied and moderate disdain and ridicule will ensure that they eventually splinter and disintegrate through infighting, internecine power-struggles and coup attempts like their predecessors the Brown shirts, NF ad nauseum - as befits the boorish nazi fucks.
I'm not a BNP but let them speak
I'm afraid of the new attitude of political intolerance.
BNP may (do) have their idealogical problems but their real problem seems to be that they haven't drunk from the same jug of cool-aid as ALL the other political choices and hence being something different are a challenge, so the present power-sharing parties who are desperately trying to get tolerant free-thinking citizens to WANT to quash political freedom.
watch the shadows if you want to see who is pulling your strings.
Frankly, my dear....
I'd be far more worried if I were to see influential/intelligent*/authority figures appearing in a membership list of The Labour Party.
*actually, that would totally prove a lack of intelligence, so scrub that description.
Why so scared?
The time to stand up and be counted has arrived for party members. If you don't want your name on the list, don't support the party - simples.
What have they got to be afraid of? Would Labour, Lib Dem or Tory party members not like their details being leaked? ... No, because their parties are not fuelled by racist, hate filled bile barfed up for the tabloid reading masses to lap up under the thin veil of politics. Primary school teachers won't be looked down upon in the same way for supporting the Lib Dems. If the BNP party members genuinely hold their views so strongly they donate to the party then they won't mind who knows what party they support.
i'd vote for any party called "Badgers, Not Potatoes" regardless of their political views.
publish and be damned
Tme to publish all political parties members, and anyone who contributes both financially and in kind. If you seek to aid an organisation that could have power of the population, in any form, then the population should be able to know who you are. If you are not prepared to stand up and be linked to their policies then why should I have to have to face the prospect of living under them?
The army seems to be the pot calling the kettle black here, It's one of the most racist organisations out there. Remember the BBC undercover documentary where most of the new recruits had joined specifically so they could go and kill "towel heads"?
The BNP have a right to a voice, otherwise we don't live in a country of free speech. All you ever hear Labour talk about it banning them, which is pretty much par for the course for such a fascist party.
Last I checked, the BNP aren't going round and advocating that none of the rest of the political parties are to be disallowed a voice through the media. Hell, nobody's complaining about Sinn Fein these days, and those guys were responsible for murder.
"Tolerance" as preached these days seems to be "we'll tolerate things as long as they're done our way", for example feminist movements funding shelters that won't accept cash from sources that don't adhere to what they consider to be liberation of women.
Honestly, I'm fed up of this "tolerance" stance unless it cuts all ways. It's currently used to bypass honest debate and openness and paint people into a diabolic light if they have different opinions. Everyone has a voice. If they paint themself as diabolic, then so be it. Hung by their own admissions.
Stifling people because you disagree with them? Hmm.. Can you say "totalitarian"?
Those whining that the ridicule heaped upon the BNP is some sort of intolerance need to stop wanking it and get a life.
Freedom of speech also means the freedom to be called a stupid git. Freedom of assembly also means the freedom of others to lump you in with your lunatic friends. Freedom of the press means the freedom to be criticized on your bilious screeds.
Such as it is on the other side of the pond, so shall it be everywhere.
""Frankly I am more afraid of those who think political intimidation is acceptable than of anything I hear about the BNP"
'You need to get out a bit more and stop reading the BNP press releases.'
I agree with him and I haven't read a single BNP press release. Oh, and i get out plenty.
Ironically, when someone says 'political intimidation', i think of 'Unite Against Fascism' (free speech for everybody except the BNP..so, how does that work then?)
OR those losers who were breaking into a power station at the weekend
OR Lord Ahmed threatening 'thousands' of muslims on the street in protest against letting that dutch bloke in.
OR anybody that uses the new 'crimes' (dreamed up by the politically correct w***ers that run this country), to accuse, smear and label people who don't agree with their agenda.
I think it's a good idea they get onto mainstream media. Then people can clearly see them for what they are and you deprive them of the oxygen of 'anti'-publicity.
You do realise it's the party members names and addresses that are being leaked?
And you do also realise that it is also (supposedly) our right to a secret ballot. I hope your name address and party affiliations and any other personal details get leaked online. I'm pretty sure the people in power as you say do announce themselves or how the hell would they even get there.
Not that I care much about the BNP or it's policy, it's just the principle. Are people really that scared of the BNP to do crap like this?
Ooooh, the ambivalence!
I really do believe in free speech for all, regardless of their political viewpoint, but equally I would not wee on anyone proved to be a member to put them out if they were on fire.
On balance, I think that members of the BNP shouldn't be worried about their names being published if their policies are what they truly believe in, but should be willing to accept the consequences of being "outed".
Oh, and Nick Griffin should be allowed on Question time, provided he agrees to sit under a Noel Edmonds-style gunge tank, triggered when two thirds of the audience find a comment offensive.
I think Wikileaks has melted ; (
13.30 on Tuesday and the site is unreachable. If it really is hosted on a box under a bed in a log-cabin in Sweden, I hope someone's checking it's not on fire...
Sam Liddicot - completely agree with your post. The establishment really are going all out now. Nu Liebours created a scary place that used to be Great Britain.
Dave 160 - You missed the point that if your a BNP member you will lose your job if it's in the public sector or even if your say a train driver as your union will excommunicate you. so there's a loss of livlihood aspect. Short step to locking up the political dissidents isn't it.
Let's ask ourselves just what is the point of leaking the list of names addresses and phone numbers? It can only be so the UAF sends round the bully boys to break up your home, terrorise your family and get you fired from your job. Hardly a worthwhile purpose is it.
If your publishing names and addresses of extremists the why not Anjem Choudhary? Why not Peter Hain or any of the Liebour scum that have ruined this country.
No I'm not a member of ANY political party but I have just donated to UKIP.
Why? Because of the selective prosecution of UKIP over donations.
This is the real stasi at work.
AC because the UAF obviously have ears.
"The values of these extremists — many of whom are essentially racist —"
"... are fundamentally at odds with the values of the modern British military, such as tolerance and fairness."
Try asking many of the black and asian recruits how "tolerant and fair" some whites in the British Military are...
Time to move house again methinks.
If you really believe what you typed you will now post your full name address and telephone number on here. Of course members of other parties would mind their personal details being published on the web, as would you.
Just read the list spreadsheet.
Big Fat Hairy Deal. This party has max 50 people in many constituencies. They are smaller than small fry. Why is the LibLabcon establishment working this story up so much?
Can only be because dissent will not be tolerated by the Fuhrer Brown. There he is chewing the carpet throwing Nokia's alll over the place.
10k to 16k
As they say, "there's no such thing as bad publicity".
The fact that the BNP is a living breathing problem is caused by the cowardly politicians, the worst my country has had in generations. Most hate britain, most are partaking in the destruction of the institutions, and today, specifically the armed forces. Most are involved in creating 1984, and multiculturalism is enforced by political correctness that is both unpopular_and_unjust. If the core of politics won;t talk or debate about things like immigration, and political correctness, then it is not hard to see why people are not tolerating the status quo any more.
And before anyone starts yabbering about the BNP, the problem with this outlook is that the BNP are not the ones trying to silence debate, they are not the ones trying to 'ban' political opponents. They are not the ones building 1984, and taking parts in disgusting EU projects that only the stasi would be proud of.
Our politicians should be utterly ashamed of themselves. They have created this terrible situation, and they are wholly responsible. They must step forward with answers and solutions to people's problems, not pretend that they don't exist and that this BNP 'success' is some kind of accident. The BNP is going to go on growing unless there is a wake up call and a serious one at that. People at ground level *are* sick of 1984, immigration, political correct stupidity, and totalitarian multiculturalism.
I think that you miss the point here. We do have freedom of speech, but it is not complete freedom and never has been. MOST people can say MOST things MOST of the time - but that doesn't give everyone automatic "rights" to say what they like when they like.
Generally, society decides what is acceptable, but where you draw the line is, as always, the issue. I'd be interested to know what you think about the Stephen Gately article in the Mail last week..? Did that journo have the right to publish her views, or was it just homophobic?
For what it's worth, i don't think that we will make any ground against the BNP by marginalising them or not letting them speak. I'd be interested to know about their policies - particularly the ones that do not have an angle on race (i think we get the gist of those ones). At that point, I suspect that we will see just how narrow minded* and single-issue they are.
* I can think of many, many other adjectives to use here, all of which are too colourful for this time of day...
Go away, you cretin. The BNP are nothing but a bunch of racist thugs. You are an idiot if you think the rest of their 'policies' make sense. Idiothole.
British Nutsack Party
The BNP are a racist group of thugs, not a political group, they only want political power to carry out their racist policies across britton.
They have a few policies that touch on public concerns about imigration and are using them as a smokescreen for thier more racist views.
They are a stones throw away from being the KKK, burning crosses in your garden and wearing white hoods.
The last time this kind of group gained power, the leader was called Hitler.
If this is, as most people reckon, the list of enquiries - not members then posting it is a bit wrong in my opinion.
If you want to see Julian Assanege's (director of wikilinks) true colours read this article concerning the News of the World, and tell me he isn't a hypocritical, self righteous, fruit-cake. My jaw dropped reading it.
The armed forces
Isn't the army where the same BNP-voting council estate kids go to get some discipline kicked into them so they can become respectable members of society?
"What do you think the BNP are doing if it's not political intimidation ?"
Getting elected by an ever growing dis-gruntled population while morons like you sit on your moral pedastals whilst wearing blinkers.
Fail icon right back at ya.
@ Roger Pearse
After the twentieth century experience of far right wing groups across the world, I think we can afford to treat them with a certain amount of the prejudice they seem so keen to deliver to others. Let's face it they've caused more loss of life in Europe,South America - are you telling me that Pinochet was a nice bloke ?, the results of fascistic nationalism in Asia, where even more lives were lost than in Europe, and yes, the charming apartheid regime in South Africa, than any previous century of warfare. At least the most cancerous extreme left wing regimes had the decency to fall apart of there own accord.
The BNP are no answer to any of Britains perceived ills and may well end up causing a whole lot more of them.
Glad to hate nazis and fascist wingnuts, they lower the tone of the neighbourhood.
What the hell is BNP?
The first rule of journalism, or any writing, is to define your acronyms. BNP may mean something to Brits, but The Register is supposed to be trying to not be so provincial.
@ AC: British Nutsack Party
"The last time this kind of group gained power, the leader was called Hitler."
No... Last time this kind of group gained power, the leader was called George Bush Jnr.
@AC - 11:36 GMT
> Anyone from stop the bnp be willing to help me organise stop the snp and stop clyde cymru?
> Nope? Just another step in new labour's positive discrimination on the way to positive
I assume you meant "Plaid Cymru" - the party of Wales.
The SNP's manifestos are here http://www.snp.org/taxonomy/term/85/all
and PC's here http://www.plaidcymru.org/content.php?nID=44;catID=7;lID=1
(PC's site seems have a few navigation problems just now).
The BNP's website is struggling just now, I couldn't find their manifestos.
The SNP's raison de entre is independence for Scotland, however, they are committed to remaining in the EU.
Plaid Cymru want more powers for the Welsh assembly - the UK is one of the most centralised countries in the EU.
SNP's Westminster 2005 manifesto http://www.snp.org/system/files/SNP_manifesto_2005.pdf
4. Our Values
... No one country and no one human being is worth more or less than any other. ...
... The SNP is committed to the principle of equality of opportunity. That means the prohibition of discrimination on the grounds of race, gender, age, sexuality, faith, belief, ability, stats or social background ....
... The people of Scotland should be empowered to take control of their lives and communities....
Plaid Cymru's Westminster 2005 manifesto http://www.plaidcymru.org/uploads/publications/59.pdf
... We will fight racism in all its forms, and support the outlawing of employment discrimination on the basis of religious belief. We will press for action to increase the representation of ethnic minority communities at all levels of politics and public life....
Now, do the SNP or Plaid Cymru sound like the BNP?