Very Jobsian

"We never comment on what might or might not be on our product roadmap."

So they have a boss from Apple, engineers from Apple, PR people from Apple, use software from Apple... and now they're taking lines from Apple, too? That's so cute!

Naughty!

Not defending Apple, but Palm were a bit naughty "borrrowing" Apple's USB ID to get in with Apple's iTunes software! A bit like waiting for people to go on holiday, nipping round the back, finding the key under the door mat and spending a comfy two weeks living in someone else's house!

yawn!

Palm can get off their asses & produce a sync solution on their own. If Nokia can do it and make it work fine, so can Palm. Stop the damn whining. But what do I expect from YET ANOTHER company who would rather rake in the dough from exclusive deals than simply SELL ME THEIR FREAKIN' PRODUCT.

Product roadmap?!

That's funny coming from a company going out of business!

More like a "product path!"

Rubenstein thinks he can mess with Jobs?! lol

Bye bye Palm.

The whole USBIF thing seems confused

If their point was "They are using the identifier to restrict other companies in a mean-spirited and anticompetitive way", then they had an argument.

If they just ran up and said "no fair!" then they got what they deserved. I can't see them having been so childish.

I am all for a gamegenie, featuring an ipod nano dock, which will make your phone sync.

won't be long...

before someone else comes up with a third pary program that will do it just as well.

I own a SE xperia, and Salling make a great itunes sync program.

Apple? Fuck you.

Why people continue to support such an overpriced, OCD, anal retentive, closed, customer belittling, incompatible company I will never know. I've never seen any benefit from Apple. Ever. I've seen their malware, their flashy, overpriced hardware, and their "I shit on your face peasant" customer service though.

Apple. Fuck you.

iTunes, We don't need no stinking iTunes

Why the fuck would you want that bloated piece of crapware on your machine in the first place?!

Hokey Cokey

First syncing was in, then it was out. Then in. Then out ... at which point Palm stopped as they'd forgotten to implement the Ipod Nano "shake it all about" shuffle feature

Fuck haters

You can't ever shut the fuck up, right? Fuck your futile flamings. Come out of Mommy's basement and get a job, one where you need stuff to just work in order to get shit done.

A touch of irony

Such hate for Apple for preventing non-Apple devices from accessing Apple software. Surely such people would rejoice that they cannot fall into the trap of using, and possibly liking, Apple software.

@Bill

My my. Your world must be really depressing.

I mean, no Apple = no innovation = klutzy, slow, unintuitive catch-up me too interfaces on no-App Store devices.

Feck it, you'd rather carry a brick, a real housebrick, in your pocket because if there /was/ an App for smashing windows, you'd prefer your brick and all the mono-functionality it brings, rather than stoop to a class leading device (and other devices are available) that was made by a company you despise with a passion.

Re: Apple? xxx you

Dude, you need therapy...

Hide the salami?

I think you meant hide and SEEK. I'll let Paris explain...

Bricks?

Am I the only one who immediately thought: you don't need no stinkin' app, just throw the iXXX hard enough!

This whole childish affair is a real "the enemy of my enemy" moment for me. In this case apple was right and palm may be the only company on earth who are bigger wankers.

But apple still sucks.

It's about access to the iTunes store

Not allowing other devices to connect to the iTues store is like a retailer saying you can only buy our clothes if you are wearing our shoes. Apple wants to lock you into their ecosystem rather giving you the option of using somebody else’s devices.

There is no technical reason why other devices shouldn't be allowed to sync with iTunes and so work directly with the store it is purely that Apple have locked them out.

I think the time is coming when Apple's business practices need to be questioned.

Locking competitors out of the iTunes store when it is the dominant music download store in the market is anti-competitive.

Just to be clear I’m not talking about iTunes the app, just the store. If the store was opened then alternative apps for buying and managing your downloads would be developed and could compete in a fair way

How hard can it be...?

How hard is it to read a little bit of XML and then copy the appropriate files to the phone? Palm wrote the firmware for the phone so the "writing the files" part should be easy for them. If Palm need help writing an XML parser then they're in more trouble then they're letting on!

@Albert

"Locking competitors out of the iTunes store when it is the dominant music download store in the market is anti-competitive."

No it isn't. There are many other sources for purchasing music. Check your dictionary for "anti-competitive" before posting.

Also check the dictionary for "fool" - you'll find a picture of Bill Gould.

@B 9

How much kool-aid do you have to drink to make those arguments without choking?

Apple didn't have to do ANYTHING to allow iTunes to synch to the Pre - it worked just fine. Apple had to go out of their way to BREAK this functionality.

Why did Apple waste time and money to make it more difficult for ordinary, non-technical users to use a Pre with their iTunes media? Because the Pre represents competition, plain and simple. They don't give a fiddlers about the poor user, they simple want to make a competitors product less attractive to users. That's fundamentally uncompetitive.

The issue isn't whether Palm can or should write their own software, the issue is whether the actual user should be able to use the software that they are familiar with to manage their media and devices.

And by the way, these users are Apples customers too. Apple screwing Apple customers - who'd a thunk it?

Why do Microsoft allow itunes on windows

They already support windows media player as it is?