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The US government has reportedly agreed to cede control over ICANN once its current pact with the internet oversight body expires next week. ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) is a California-based non-profit that oversees the internet's address system. It currently operates under the auspices of the …

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Why not just hand it to the ITU? They already handle areas like radio frequency allocation and telephony standards. They have the necessary membership and infrastructure - why go to the trouble and cost of starting something new?

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Setting a New Course ..... with a Change of Tack

"Toothless global panel awaits"

Austin,

Any global panel which contains Internet Controllers who know what they are doing and who can share what they are doing ...... for of course, going IT alone* is always the Fools's Option and Road to Ruin always Best Avoided and Dismissed .... is Almed and Armed to the Teeth with Practically Virtually Everything they will ever need, and that would make them most Effective.

* It is impossible to do anything effective alone, ergo the more who know what to do, the better? Thus is Secrecy in Anything Anathema to Progress and a Sure Intelligence Sign of BADness and MADness Leading Assuredly to Destruction.

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Goodbye Everyone

It's communism I tell you, internet death panels patrolling the series of tubes. ehhh bedtime.

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A long time coming...

With luck this story is (finally) true. We've been waiting for this since about 1995 (that is, those of us who even knew there was a problem back then). Just do please take notice when ICANN is asking for future nominations to its Board ... we really do need sensible, technically competent, fair-minded internationalists there

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This is great!

Now repressive governments will have a direct say in the management of the Internet.

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Unhappy

Wholly unexpected, not!

In this completely expected move, we see another step on the way to global governance. Things like this must be wrested from the control of national governments who might know what to do to make it work, and how to go about it. Instead it must be vested in a toothless and inadequate multinational committee that is designed to fail. When they have delivered their fail, then the UN will step in with a "solution", the one they already have up their sleeve but don't want to declare yet. This is just like the EU, only bigger and even more perilous to the ordinary citizens of the world.

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a "point of contention for many other countries."

All these countries complaining about U.S. influence over ICANN and other Internet-related bodies are forgetting that it's OUR Internet. We invented it. We built it. And we paid for its initial development.

We've been kind enough to foster global use. Global use does not equal global ownership.

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@AC 07:17

Sure sure, America invented the internet. Just like they invented the rocket, the US navy, radio, Telephones, TV, nuclear reactor, the laser, tanks, helicopters, cars, huge cars, submarines, skyscrapers, World Wide Web, the computer and the aeroplane.

I'll get my coat, before you claim they invented that too.

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"....we really do need sensible, technically competent, fair-minded internationalists there....."

What? Plural? Fat fucking chance finding one. Even fatter fucking chance getting somebody to nominate 'em.

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows exactly what the outcome will be here. ICANN will be lumbered with bureaucratic oversight from appointees of major governments. No useful decision will ever be made again. The Chinese will veto anything that doesn't have a major contribution to local governmental control in it. The Europeans will veto anything American. The Russians will veto anything dependant on which other diplomatic stink they want to make a point about this week.

For an illustration here, look at the process of getting a serious decision out of the UN Security Council. Now imagine this in a situation where none of the issues are such that anyone involved stands a risk of getting nuked next week if they argue the toss for longer.

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ICANN is already bent

And the committee is stacked with cronies.

This would just make it pretty much untouchable.

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@AC 28th September 2009 09:38 GMT

Quite "Sure sure, America invented the internet. Just like they invented the rocket, the US navy, radio, Telephones, TV, nuclear reactor, the laser, tanks, helicopters, cars, huge cars, submarines, skyscrapers, World Wide Web, the computer and the aeroplane."

rocket - Chinese, first use in war 1232

US Navy - Continental Navy - first formal movement for a navy came from Rhode Island (USA), whose State Assembly passed on 26 August 1775

Radio - Thomas Edison (USA) was the first to be awarded a patent anywhere December 29, 1891. The Marconi Company would later purchase rights to the Edison patent to protect them legally from lawsuits.

Telephone - Alexander Graham Bell (USA) was the first to be awarded a patent anywhere March 1876

TV - 1884 Paul Gottlieb Nipkow (Germany)

Nuclear reactor - December 2, 1942 by Enrico Fermi at Universty of Chicago (Illinois USA)

laser - 16 May 1960 by Theodore Maiman at Hughes Research Laboratories (California USA)

tanks- Leonardo da Vinci (Italy)

helicopters- China, as toys, ~400BC

cars- Ferdinand Verbiest built the first steam-powered vehicle around 1672 which was of small scale and designed as a toy for the Chinese Emperor

submarines-The first submersible with reliable information on its construction was built in 1620 by Cornelius Jacobszoon Drebbel, a Dutchman in the service of James I of England.

skyscrapers-High-rise apartment buildings already flourished in classical antiquity: ancient Roman insulae in Rome and other imperial cities reached up to 10 and more stories.

World Wide Web- Tim Berners-Lee & Robert Cailliau, both at CERN in Switzerland, proposal on published November 12, 1990

the computer- The "castle clock", an astronomical clock invented by Al-Jazari in 1206, is considered to be the earliest programmable analog computer.

aeroplane- First successful powered flight by the Wright brothers (USA) December 17, 1903

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@AC 11:38

If I remember my QI trvia correctly...

The Telephone was actually invented in several guises by several people, in particular Mr Antonio Meucci, circa 1860. Mr AGB (a Scotsman) was merely able to patent it first. The Wright brothers had the first *manned* powered flight (though Gustave Whitehead made such a flight in 1901)- the first powered flight was as early as 1894, a steam powered machine built by Sir Hiram Maxim. The US Navy was also founded by a Scotsman, Mr John Paul Jones.

One thing we should all know after the amount of software patent stories in El Reg is that Patents does not always indicate the original inventor.

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Re: This is great!

"Now repressive governments will have a direct say in the management of the Internet." .... By Anonymous Coward Posted Sunday 27th September 2009 13:14 GMT

The Internet accepts all SMARTer Input and Rewards QuITe Obscenely ITs Donors/Drivers/Business Angels/Sugar Daddies/Builders/Navigators/Path Finders/MasterPilots/Aces, which would put repressive governments at a serious disadvantage which gives them no voice for direct say in the Future of Anything, and that would be their Shame to Bear for Denial of Immaculate Right to Assets.

In other words, there is no Say in Internet Management other than Share and Do ........ which is AIdDynamic Virtualisation of Future Realities. Well, ....for SMART Joint AddAIdVenturing Leaders IT is.

Ca Ira Waters.

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bares no penalties

I suppose Austin meant "bears", but incurs would be better.

-A.

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ARPANET

Wait I thought the net came from ARPANET.Who created ARPANET ?

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