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An semi-armless teenager who acted as getaway driver on a jewellery heist, driving at 100mph during a police pursuit "despite needing somebody to change the gears for him", has escaped jail, the Telegraph reports. John Smith, 18 - who has no arms below the elbow - was in charge of a Ford Focus during the robbery of Ernest Jones …

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Coat

Caught "red handed"?

By the "long arm of the law"

Did he have to "stump up" his bail money?

Was he released due to him being 'armless?

He should heed the old addage... Forewarned is "forearmed".....

.....Fine, i am getting my coat!

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Now that's a good idea....

IIRC the sentence for armed robbery is much higher.

Nice bit of forethought there...

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Well done..

to this gang for their disability inclusion program.

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Coat

So presumably not...

... an armed robbery.

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I was surprised to see this was in the UK

These types of stories are usually from some strange Russian country that nobody has every heard off.

Nice to see PLOD earning their keep. Of course if they wanted to stop them under Anti-Terror legislation and search their camera's for information useful for a terrorist then it was just lucky I guess.

Or maybe this will pop up as an example of how it works

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Re: I was surprised to see this was in the UK

Some strange Russian country, like, Russia, perhaps? Not sure I know of any other Russian countries...

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discrimination luck

This discrimination due to disability has got to stop. They should have shown they were equal opportunity by throwing the guy in the slammer for 10 years. I guess he was just lucky he didn't have a camera with him.

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@dunncha

"some strange Russian country that nobody has every heard off."???

http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/geography.shtml

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still soft sentencing

still soft sentencing for criminals especially young offenders

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IT Angle

IT Angle?

Where's the IT angle?

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WTF?

Sigh...

A man driving other than in accordance with a license, without insurance, and not being in a fit state to remain in full control of the vehicle, should be put in jail. His recklessness and disregard for public safety makes him a danger to society. This is the very reason for which we have prisons; To remove dangerous people from society.

It is the *definition* of incarceration.

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Sentencing lottery

We don't have the full evidence and case notes the judge / jury saw but it seems he got off more lightly than others have in similar cases. Whether disability should be a mitigating factor in punishment will no doubt be a contentious issue; not taking part in the robbery itself though hasn't saved other getaway drivers.

I'm surprised with a high-speed chase and a driver obviously incapable of controlling a vehicle that he was not also charged with dangerous driving and related offences.

Mine's the short-sleeved one.

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Re: IT Angle?

Oh, put a bung in it.

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@The Original Ash

And we can save a whole load of money by doing away with all these "courts" & "judges" & "juries" & "evidence" & "sentencing guidelines".

Why waste all that time looking at the facts of the case and the defendants, and worrying about what course of action has the highest chance of stopping this individual repeating his crimes?

No, lets just sentence people based on Ash's reading of an article on the Reg about a report in the Mail and Telegraph.

We might save enough money to pay for all those new prisons we're going to need.

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@ All for dunncha

Maybe I should have refered to the country previously know as USSR.

Paris Hilton moment there

Thanks for this FUNNY!

'HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS DEMAND WARS

IN EASIER-TO-FIND COUNTRIES'

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Coat

Re: Sigh...

No. They only lock you up and throw away the key for driving while legless....

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Im gobmacked.

All of them will be out of nick within 6 months. Its a very lenient sentence for a £175k robbery. Is 6 months worth £175k? Sure beats my minimum wage job...

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Not exactly the Italian Job

I would have loved to have been at the planning session for that one. I mean, what possible mindset can there be for such a decision?

"Ooz gonna drahv the mo-tah?"

"What baht John?"

"Nice one. E's perfeck, on accahnt of not 'avin any arms, in'ee?"

OK, the Dickensian / Morporkian accents are in my head, but they add a little something to the whole farcical affair.

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Can't believe noone did this yet.

So.....He was a one armed bandit then?

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Reduced sentence

Maybe the judge thought he looked 'armless?

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@Sarah Bee

Perhaps we should have a "Miserable Git" award - you can name & shame all of those that demand "where's the IT angle" and everyone can vote for their favourite to be ritually humiliated. We could have a panel of celebrity IT judges to make caustic remarks about their IT skills (or should that be skillz?)

And in case anyone from TV land is reading this, I reserve to right to be considered the author of this idea, so anyone thinking of turning it into a programme, I want 10%

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Near death experience

They should just have shot him. After all they're rather good at shooting unarmed men and getting away with it.

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Automatic Transmission?

That is all.

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He's well known to police

One-fingered Johnny has been in crime since he could walk, his brothers figured the social services always got him off so put him in the windows to open the house doors to burgle.

He could not be put in an ID line up as they needed find three other people like him, hence he couldn't be identified by his victims.

He was always riding stolen mopeds around the Marquess estate with his "gang", taunting police, again when caught the social services got him off....he has a reputation as untouchable by the law due to his disability...as one neighbour put it "if he's this bad now, what would he be like with hands?"

the whole family are in and out of remand centres and prison, local drug dealers and muggers the lot.

defiantely a failure on child services and a good candidate for care in the community not working

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So you get....

... at the very most, 32 months (minus time off) for breaking and entering and stealing a 6-figure sum?? While the police tie themselves in knots to prosecute possession of consensual adult 'extreme' porn, arrest photographers for being too tall, and shoot Brazilian electricians for having a middle-eastern skin tone???

Good to see someone has their priorities right

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@Sarah

I'm glad to see you saving up your "ODFO"s for those truly in need.

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Get a map!

I'm sure I'm not the first or the last to say this, but Rainham is in Essex, not Kent. That big wet thing called the Thames tends to get in the way between those two counties.

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politically correct b*llocks yet again

"his disability and the fact he did not take part in the raid itself enabled him to suspend the custodial sentence"

Hang on, this scrote was the getaway driver for "armed" robbers - throw the book at him. Anyone else driving like him even without the robbery aspect would be in jail. Conspiracy to commit theft should be an additional tariff on top of any other sentence.

ESC - because that's what he appears to have done !

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IT Angle?

Obviously the IT angle here is the use of ID Cards and database.

Wonder if he has to bring his prosthetic arms into the police station so he can be fingerprinted in the meantime.

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One lucky thing..

They won't be able to charge him for armed robery!

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RE: Get a map!

It is you, Sir, who needs to get a map. Just because you are only aware of the Essex Rainham doesn't mean there isn't one in Kent. The Shopping Centre, in (Gillingham/Rainham) KENT, is a few miles from the centre of Rainham, KENT. Plus the A2 should have been a clue as well!

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Coat

hang on, you said jewellers...

then Ernest Jones. sure it wasn't £1744.45, that more realistic.

If they took the whole stock of course.......

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Megaphone

Re: IT angle?

Hello? Blackwall Tunnel? Did you read the article or just the headline?

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