Little point in banning it

Effectively banning it is rather pointless - all they've achieved is to bring more attention to it.

Anyone who wants it can just download it from thepiratebay etc.

great

had they given it an 18 I probably would haven't noticed it. NOW i'm straight on the interweb to download a copy, I just HAVE to watch it now.

How to promote a film in 6 easy steps

Make it controversial

Make it VERY controversial

Push the envelope as far it will go

Get it banned

Watch the press hype it madly

collect $$$$$$$$$$$ / kudos / the next job offer.

And by banning it

they have guaranteed that the torrents will be humming tonight.

One for the downloads...

...and thanks for the reg for letting me know :-)

Free advertising at its best.

How long before this movie hits the torrent sites? What was it called again...? ahh, thanks.

So, what was the point of this?

More people than ever would have before are now going to see it

downloading it now

I've grabbed the english subs already, and am downloading it now.

It was released unrated and Uncut in German, so it's all over the torrent sites.

Thank you BBFC, not only in highlighting this film for me, but giving me the smug self satisfaction of getting one over on "them".

Good

"Banning a film just means that people will want to see it even more and most likely download it from Bit Torrent."

What people are these? The sick fucks who enjoy watching executions, or the people who might pick it up from Blockbuster without realising exactly what it is or how graphic the scenes are? I'm sure whatever studio which released this film will be far from happy at this news - yeah torrent sites might be getting a lot of hits for a few days until the hype/hardons wear off, but can't see that generating much profit for the studio compared from having it sold on the shelf across the country.

@amanfromearth - ditto

Have to agree with A Man From Earth. I honestly don't think that there is a place for shit like this. It is just some frustrated porn fantasy of some obviously psychotic prick that really needs some kind of intensive psychiatric treatment. Films like this - and others of their ilk, Saw, Hostel - etc. offer absolutely nothing artisically (not even a whiff or irony) and dip into the 'how low can you go' craze that seems to be hitting the media, which then wonder why oh why society is going down the toilet.

I'm no prude but I want to be entertained, not grossed out so I'm with the BBFC on this one.

But does the movie have any redeeming feature?

Like a cameo appearance by David Carradine or something.

Definitely not on my to-watch list. Tarantino is already sickening enough for me.

Cool!

A new banned film! I thought they stopped making those.

Straight to the top of my must watch list.

The trouble is:

OK now its banned,

yes we all know how to get the film anyway,

then some sicko, watches it, gets turned on by it,

goes out does some crazy shit, i dunno chops up a bunch of babies, and sells them as milkshakes or sommat!

and its back on the news again, saying why are there not tighter controls on whats out there.

then the torrent sites (luv them) get in even more trouble,

i watched saw / hostel etc, but if someone who knows there job, who's job it is to catch potentially society screwing films etc thinks : you know this is REALLY horrible, there is an argument for not letting people view it, maybe, just maybe we should listen, rather than all of us being so bloody minded that we all think we know best and watch it anyway.

Watch and enjoy those of you who thuink its great and funny, i just hope when you are chopping up some unsuspecting poor soul, when you brain has finally packed in, you make it quick.

beer, as its made from 100% pure germans...!

If It has been banned

Can you been charged with copyright infringement if you download it?

Because if they are not allowed to sell it/show it, is its copyright and perceived value of the film still valid.

Sounds a bit too hardcore for me though.

I rather stick to humiliating Paris for my kicks

@amanfromearth

"The comments here show exactly what sort of pathetic tossers are produced by UK society."

how exactly? by demonstrating that people want to see stuff regardless of what some establishment figure arbitrarily decides?

explain yourself pls

At least it's upfront

At least you know what you are going to get with this one and the makers have been quite upfront in their advertising and promotion. If you're a sicko and enjoy that sort of thing - watch it. If not, you can avoid it.

Unlike Slumdog Millionaire which got a 15 cert and was promoted as the "Feel-good film of the year" and opens with the torture by electrocution of a child and then goes on, via flashbacks during his 24 hour torture, to tell the story of a boy who witnessed the brutal killing of his own mother and the blinding of friends to make them more effective beggars.

Presumably that was okay because of the sick and depressing narrative.

Maybe the makers of Grotesque should show the back story of the psycho. Maybe something cheerful like him being raped by his Dad. Then we'd have "narrative" and "character Development" so it would all be okay, right?

Not a fan of 'torture pr0n', but...

...I suspect this has rather more to do with the BBFC keeping one eye on all that new legislation so recently passed regarding 'extreme' pr0n. It just wouldn't do to be giving the nod to a mucky little flick like this, whilst Ministers are busy legislating day and night to criminalise every 'deviant' imaginable (and it seems they can imagine quite a few). Expect the BBFC to banning a lot more movies in future. This is how the new laws have been designed to work.

boo to censorship -it's neither sick nor real

oh come on you whingers, how can it be sick, unless they did actually torture people to make the film, but that would make it a snuff film wouldn't it? -or a documentary maybe. i'm not too up on the genre really.

the whole censorship seems stupid and archaic nowdays, you can't control information like you used to, and it is my belief that if people don't want to watch it because they don't like the subject matter, they won't.

it is probably a crap film though, but even saw and hostel were borderline entertainment imo, not exactly fun to watch.

Time to monitor those packets

If i knew of anyone that even *wanted* to watch this stuff (knowing what it was about), i'd hand them their P45 and have them escorted out within minutes.

I cant imagine what kind of emotionless psychopath can consider this kind of shit "entertainment", and it worries the hell out of me that todays teens not only think this stuff is cool, but that they can easily get hold of it.

They ban this...

..and yet Gordon Brown, Peter Mandelson and Jacqui Smith are and were on TV pre-watershed regularly and they have and are causing harm to viewers through their behaviour, and to society as a whole. Where are the sensors in this instance ?

@amanfromearth

I fail to see why pointing out that the BBFC are wasting their time (and that anybody who really wants a copy will be able to get one) makes people morons.

I don't particularly want to see it either, but I'm not a moron. I'm an adult who is perfectly capable of deciding what is suitable for me to watch.

You should change your name to amancalledmoron.

Hmmm..

I watched a gardening programme the other night - Didn't go out gardening.

I watched some stupid dance programme the other night - Didn't go out dancing.

I watched X-files last night - Didn't want to put a tin foil on my head

I watched superman a while ago - Didn't want to jump off a building thinking I could fly.

Wonder what would happen if I watched this?

All the comments saying you'll immediately go on some Dexter style killing rampage are just plain stupid and make you look stupid.

Now; where's my saw and duck tape....

Remind you of your government much?

Sick b@stard running the show..............check

Perverse acts on the victims....................check

Torture and killing......................................check

People watch and are horrified...............check

You wish you really weren't watching.....check

Makes you want to wash real good........check

You hope it's not real.................................check

You know there's no redeeming quals...check

You watch like a train wreck......................check

You know it won't really change...............check

Some parts make you want to barf.........check

Seriously Why?

I usually find myself supporting free speech but theres been several films I've seen that have just made me feel physically sick and I dont really see why anyone had a need to make/watch anything like that?

This is surprisingly common.

"Captivity" had a so called "plot" bolted on to the end after some jurisdictions declined it on the grounds that it wasn't just sick and crap, but that it was pointless as well. With a plot it had some sort of point and was so let through.

If this had been intercut with the torturers back story, explaining how his path through society had led to him doing these things, to these people, at this time, then we'd have "art" something that would engage the full intellect, _I_ might even try to watch it.

We have an 18R category to acknowledge that although porn might be fairly mindless and pointless, the base desires and instincts that it taps in to are healthy and normal. Without sex society would be extinict within a century. (AFAIK Rape scenarios fall outside of R18 by some margin.)

There are lots of bullies, sadists and chavs out there who do get off on making and seeing innocent people suffer for no good reason. If someone doesn't agree that a thirst for meaningless suffering is unhealthy than I doubt I've enough common ground to talk to them on.

While I know a few people who'll be scrambelling to watch this just to prove "It's not that bad, just the BBFC being oppressive"[1] I'm quite glad to have a warning to give this one a wide berth.

[1] Same people have also been known to stone-wall victims of street-beatings because "So-called chavs are normally harmless and must have been provoked, so he'll get no sympathy from me."

I remember the old "Faces of Death" documentaries

I watched them as a teen. Disturbing and sad, though hard to stop watching. I couldn't stop thinking about the images for days after. However, it did NOT motivate me to go harm people or animals. (although my morning commute almost did) I think factual images are fine, with some guidance.

While I'm not for censorship, it's hard for me to imagine why someone would choose to celebrate violence and pain by producing these things. If you need this to get off, you're trying too hard.

I don't necessarily think that this will cause someone to go out and kill. You'd have to sanitize every sensory input in the world to protect everyone from themselves. Whether it's a sick movie, too much drugs/alcohol, videogames, music, a jilting, a layoff, or any other kind of strong emotional input, there will always be someone who is not prepared to deal with it and goes on a rampage.

i just checked.....

TPB

158 seeders

971 leechy sicko types....

and after watching saw on tv, i think i'll pass on this one.

after being traumatised by watching The Evil Dead as a 9 year old on betamax at a mates house after school, just after it got banned in the uk in the 70's has done enough permanent damage to my psychy.....

@amanfromearth - ditto

You sound like Mary Whitehouse

Good

no money to the sick shitwipes who made this then.