Overweight? Depressed? Aged 35? Answer 'yes' to all three and you are almost certainly a gamer. So suggests a joint study conducted by scientists from the US Centres for Disease Control (CDC), Emory University in Atlanta and Andrews University in Michigan. Researchers concluded that frequent gamers tend to be fatter and of less …
Well thats me ;)
Not sure about the depressed bit tho
...I could of told you that.
Next shocking news.
People with great bodys tend eat well and exercise.
They needed a "Study" to figure this out? .. whoever funded it should be shot!
That's described me in a nutshell to be honest besides the 35 years of age. World of Warcraft much?
not in the UK mate
any member of our clan
is Youngish 16 - 24 apart from 4 of us
None of us are fat
although i have to admit at 28 the affections of youth are starting to leave me and my belly is no longer toned :(
lowlifescum ftw :)
wrong way round for a causal link
Fat miserable thirty somethings have nothing better to do than play games..
at least when we can get the kids to bloody bed anyway
Ursines prefer to defecate in boreal environment
Leader of major religion wears distinctive headgear.
Don't have time to comment, just about to start a Naxx 25 man :)
There's a bit of a problem with this study, which you can spot here:
"500 adults aged between 19 and 90 from Washington state"
I don't know about you, but I don't know that there's many adults over 50 in Washington state playing video games, so lets narrow down the group to, hrmm, 350 adults?
That's hardly a large enough demographic, especially considering they are all from a single area!
Besides, I'm a gamer and I'm not miserable...
I don't live in Washington State either.
Perhaps the headline should read:
"350 potential gamers age 19-90 in Washington State are fat and miserable and stupid, finds study"
There, that's better.
Gamers are what?
Right. And this study was probably performed by a non-gamer lot who simply want to poo on the party for those of us who enjoy video games. I'm a gamer and I'm not fat or depressed. I'm having fun. That's the whole point of gaming. Enjoying something fun. First games are supposed to be turning blokes into anti-social killing machines, now it's alleged that gamers are a 35 year old fat depressed lot. Yea. right. I work for a University. Anyone can do a University study to prove whatever they want to prove while pocketing grant money. It's all part of the game. Create a question. Formulate surveys, pass them out, and get people to answer them, either pay them in one way or another, and you've got a built in answer to a question in order to "prove" that your point is valid. It's all just a game. LOL!!! How do you check to determine if the answers given to you in surveys are truthful? No way to prove it. So you have a survey who's answers can't be proven to be factual and you announce that "The Survey Said" this or that and we are expected to believe the results, why?
depressed but not fat
The last time I bought a computer game it was to block out the s**t that is my life. I was looking for something that would take ages to complete thus filling the hours of boredom that would normally be filled with a social life. I recommend the RPG as an ample source of oblivion.
I'm not fat though or 35.
To paraphrase Mo the bartender, "Hey! I may be fat and I may be miserable, but .. what else did he say?"
Must buy that t-shirt I saw somewhere that said "Achievement unlocked - 10G - Left the house" wonder if they do an XXL...
Which is cause and which effect?
Title goes here.
Over 35? Yes
So much for that study.
Fat, Miserable, Asocial...
Isn't that the target demographic for WoW?
Perhaps, but you need a bigger sample group.
Cart / Horse
Again this tripe is trotted out. Try putting the horse before the cart next time:
"Fat, depressed 35 year olds play more video games" is a much more accurate headline.
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Almost perfect match
Except that I'm a happy gamer! Everything else fits to a tee, but until I read this article I wasn't depressed at all... much.
2 minor points
a) correlation is not causation
b) is the study sure what is cause and what is effect?
If you are fat and/or depressed you tend to get mobbed in RL so badly that gaming is a lot more restful than any other social activity.
Mine's the one with the +3 cluebat hanging down the back.
Chicken or the egg
I think there could be a different take on this reaserch. Maybe individuals who are larger, less attractive and more depressed are not accepted into traditional social activities and circles and so prefer to have their social interaction online where those things matter less?
Wasn't there another report that said...
the opposite a few months ago! I seem to recall this.
This sounds like one of those "We are making a point that something is bad" survey asked to be done by a group of people who think their lifestyle is perfect and think everyone else should be the same as them.
The El reg article is too short to get a true idea of the survey and usually the media likes to jump on the negative aspect of the report.
Like the Twitter article on the BBC recently that said 40 percent of Tweets are pointless, but hey that means 60 percent are useful then, imagine that...
I'm a gamer, but I don't relate to the stereotype this survey is obviously trying to create, so we can all ignore it ok.
Biased study finds biased result shock
I read a more detailed report publised by the BBC yesterday (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8206163.stm) which came out with the shock result that "gamers" are older than most think - when only interviewing folk aged 19-90 are you surprised?
"The team chose the Seattle-Tacoma area because its internet usage level is the highest within the US and it is one of the larger markets for media."
So is it surprising that %45 play games?
Also there's plenty of inference that gamers are fat and miserable, obviously pushing that as a coleration, but maybe people are miserable because of the way society treats fat people and games are a way of escaping this?
With no figures to base these on (more were depressed, how many more, 1, 50?) you can't say whether it's a statistical anomaly or a real trend - but with a base size of 500 I could take a guess at why figures aren't published.
Go away CDC and do some real research based on a nationally representative sample size and distribution with a sufficient volume of respondents to eliminate bias as much as possible and conduct the research over several forms (at a guess they did this online?) to ensure you get a good cross-section of society.
THEN we'll see if your results stack up.
Can you tell I work in market research?
I have been gaming for around 25 years as have many of my friends and I don't know a single fat depressed gamer. None of my friends are over weight nor depressed.
Ah the survey was taken in the US, that explains it, I guess most of the US population are over weight and depressed gamer or not.
What did they do before the intertubes?
Fat, older, unloved folks mostly watched TV, were bored, etc. Now they hve a simulacrum of life. Still depressing, but better than before. My own opinion: adults playing games? Having you got real things to do?
But then, I always hated games, from monopoly and card games as a child to online games and card gmes as an adult. What a way to waste time you can never get back, or which you could have used actually talking to someone and getting to know them better, or reading and learning, or helping someone.
Nax 25?! get with the times its Uld 25 (hard mode) / ToC time ! also no maintainence today, cant wait til end of work.
...oh wait.... I'll hold the rant... this is about AMERICANS....
This doesn't represent me therefore it's wrong
"I'm a gamer and I'm not 35, so that study is obviously wrong."
I guess another common feature of gamers is that they don't know what statistics are.
huff....puff ... gasp.... pant ....
..... Captain Obvious to the (slightly breathless) rescue!
In other news...
I did a survey of American reality TV programs and found that... Most Americans are fat, miserable, obsessed with plastic surgery and stupid!
Back in the real world... I've been playing games since Pong and I'm online for about 6 hours most nights. I'm 36, weigh 10 stone with a 30" waist and I'm neither single nor depressed. Must be because I'm not American.
seems to be the word that many commentators here are missing.
As in "I'm not 35/fat/depressed so it's crap".
It also doesn't mention small dicks, but I don't think that was part of the study.
They forgot to mention beer and pizza in their paper titled 'stating the bleeding obvious'. I'd list some more but my fat, gaming fingers think that's too much like exercise and besides I'm too miserable.
In my day there were pharmaceutical solutions to this problem and who needs the two front teeth at the top of their mouths anyway?
You're right... if it were about Britons, they'd have also found that gamers have bad teeth and eat bland food!
Also, at the other commenters, I agree that it's a rather silly study, but your anecdotes about being a thin 20-year-old happy gamer do not magically make the study invalid--it's statistics, droogs. The study is invalid if they decide that, obviously, playing games makes you fat, depressed, and old; drop in the old C-is-not-C phrase here.
Wait, where did my life go?
Sometimes I think about times I spent playing games and it seems like such non-achievement, so far from being anything real, that it's like big chunks of my life just gone for no return. All those times I killed ten Fozzbears and three Greater Fozzbears in Wow so some dude with a questionmark over his head could tell me to kill ten greater Fozzbears and three Dire Fozzbears, well, in retrospect that time could perhaps have been better spent. But then the time I played right the way through Quake on co-op with three friends, that was pretty much awesome.
I guess it comes down to what you want your life to have been about when you look back on it from your deathbed- do you want to count your achievements in the wider world, whatever their magnitude, or how many Dire Fozzbears you did away with and how epic your mount was. It doesn't really matter which, as long as you can have your expectiations set.
Xander has it right
Fat depressed over 35s play more video games.
The study is flawed
Not only because of its small sample size, but because their method of calculating 'fatness' is flawed. When will they stop using BMI?!?!
Everything is a waste of time. Your wastes of time are no more and no less valid than anyone else's wastes of time. If you don't enjoy games, don't play them. If you do enjoy them, play them. I'm quite sure you have activities that I would consider boring and pointless, but I'm not going to tell you to do something "real", because it's your life and you can waste it any way you choose. The simple fact is, different people have different interests. I can't believe I had to waste my time explaining this....
How does this compare to Florida,California or New York ?
Washington state has long been known to have a very high percentage of depressive people (see Grunge) it rains ALOT.
Remember where this study was done..
As in the "greater Redmond" area. I wonder how many of these people work for MS? Kind of explains the results, me thinks. At least the depressed part.
I'm fat and depressed but only 34...
I fail even at making the average.
"350 potential gamers age 19-90 in Washington State are fat and miserable and stupid, finds study"
Yeah that would be better :) *but* sadly the majority of people in WA nowadays are actually transplants from California, and everyone knows that Californians are fucked up ;)
I'm not sure how the author can draw the conclusion that gamers are fat and miserable, surely it should be that gamer are fat *or* miserable. The article states that male gamers are more likely to have a higher BMI than non-gamers, but does not anything about the BMI for females. Similarly, the article states that female gamers are more likely to be depressed than non-gamers, but does mention anything about the mental state of male gamers.
So unless the sex of gamers is not mutually exclusive (admittedly that would explain a lot about gamers) then the author really needs to learn a little more about Boolean logic.
Who did the survey means nothing. Who validated it is a key point.
If they polled the same number of people in one of our over-crowded penitentiaries they'd have reached the conclusion that some large proportion of them have prior arrest records.
Conclusions are meaningless unless you have the details of the study.
Overweight (medically), depressed (medically), late-30s...
...really don't have the patience for gaming other than a bit of dabbling. Don't enjoy shopping, power over other people, jewellery, etc. either, so likely I am rather atrophied in the reward-centres of my brain. Serotonin deficiency according to my doc. (Yes, I am medicated, which takes the worst off the edges of it).
Online social networks tend to be things I get dragged into by friends who prefer to communicate with me through them (I prefer plain-text email), but I really don't see the point in constantly updating the world on what colour my poop was this morning.
I'm atypical, but I knew that already.
Computer Gaming is a disease
US Centres for Disease Control (CDC)?
Hence should be controlled.
Regardless of the merits of the study mentioned in the article, it has to be said (again):
Most ignorant numskulls who visit IT news sites haven't got a clue about the meaning of statistics. Should someone do research on that, too?
In time: I am 35, but neither fat nor miserable. And I don't even game, mind. Or does footie count?
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Surely the depression is caused by RSI halting all ability to masturbate furiously.
really useful metric
"Male gamers generally had a higher Body Mass Index (BMI) values than non-gaming boys."
When are they going to stop using this completely useless, Victorian, vague observation, for real scientific purposes.
I have about the same, if not lower, BMI as Mike Tyson and i'm 6 stone overweight with pure flab. the "ideal" ratio of weight to height, as recorded over 100 years ago, bears no relevance to today, as nutrition is completely different, and fails to take into account any difference between fat and muscle.
On the other hand..
I am overweight, 57, and I don't play video games, ever.
What went wrong?
Mine's the one with no controller
I question the value of this "study"
I'm 36, underweight and don't have time to play games. For all these reasons and more, I am depressed. Proper depressed, with two kinds of pills and everything. You'd be amazed how close a three-way decision between Rock Band 2, an early night, and a warm bath with a bottle of vodka, the entire contents of the medicine cabinet and a sharp blade can be sometimes.