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According to a new report out of Gartner, IT managers and chief information officers are having a tough time getting their arms wrapped around personnel costs in their shops. Gartner has just put its 2009 IT Market Compensation Study out, which is based on surveys it performed back in March at 325 IT organisations in the …

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  1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
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    And yet...

    "Gartner's research indicates that companies are having trouble finding IT system architects, database administrators, ERP system programmers and analysts, project managers, Web and Internet architects, and Web application programmers. And not because there are not plenty of candidates, but rather because the people that are knocking on their doors and email boxes don't have the skills and experience that companies want."

    But the H2B visa guys who'll work for 60% less than a citizen have

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Megaphone

    nonsensical

    "And not because there are not plenty of candidates, but rather because the people that are knocking on their doors and email boxes don't have the skills and experience".... which would mean they have completely unrelated people knocking on their doors?

    "Good morning, i am here for the database admin job"

    "Do you have any IT experience"

    "No, but i thought i would apply anyway"

    "So you'd be one of those many candidates we've had without the skill and experience then"

    IT salaries seldom reflect experience or skill, they show how low the competition is willing to try and do the work for (out sourcing, IT training camps that offer the earth and dont teach all that much)

    ... those of us with skills and experience are working else where, in places that have money (so not America then! or increasingly the UK... but here in mainland Europe there are is still some work and some good salaries).

    One day IT folk will be valued and not kicked around like a skanky dog, one minute they want our skills and experience then the next they beat us with the "You're job's going to India" stick.

    Then its back to the "Oh no we have a skills shortage".

    A bit F*** U to gartner and their IT surveys and also to the HR and IT managers that made the cake they are choking on.

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  4. DeepThought

    It is Curious

    You regularly see eg a Project Manager role where it says something along the lines of "Must have 6 years experience of sitting in red chairs". At first, you think "It's up to them". But then you notice the identical post being re advertised for months on end. Not even changed to "brightly coloured chairs or stools" The requirements generally are 99% irrelevant, but they persist rather than choose the next closest match. There is something odd going on. Maybe it's covering up rampant illegal inter-company transfers. I don't know the answer but this "don't have the right skills" is not as it seems..

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