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It is with heavy hearts that we today report that HP has shattered its own excessive packaging world record - set last year when it managed to expend 17 cardboard boxes in dispatching 32 sheets of A4 paper to a shaken customer. Of course, the competition wasn't going to take this lying down, and Dell subsequently weighed in with …

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At least it adds excitement to our dull grey lives when we receive a box the size of a house and wonder what it is, with raised hopes of something other than we were expecting.

It's a shame it costs so much to send a pallet or we could indulge in our own massive Russian Doll like cardboard creations to send back a thank you note ( maybe carved on a grain of rice ). Most of us are limited by cost to just stuffing one set of junk mail in another's pre-paid envelope.

What size boxes are Google data centres delivered in ?

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Guess that about...

...wraps it up for the competition then!

Mine's the mac made of 100% recycled plastics....

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ɹǝʌo ǝɯ uɹnʇ ǝsɐǝld uʍop ǝpısdn ɯ,ı

Doubt I'm the first to point this out, but...

Er, the message is on the sides of the box, not top and bottom.

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Pins bent?

Were any of the pins bent on those chips? If not the packaging worked a treat!

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Wish I'd Taken Pictures

Of the time a book case I'd ordered from Argos was missing a small plastic gromet about 1cm long. After repeated phone calls and pleads on behalf of mother earth Argos insisted that it was impossible to get the book case manufacturer to pop a gromet in a jiffy bag to my address.

Instead they shipped an entire book case from Hong Kong, placed it in the back of a giant truck (it was the only item in there) and drove it to where I work. I then climbed into the back of the truck, ripped open the book case packaging and retrieved the plastic gromet.

I feel guilty to this day.

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Packaging Fail

And Councils want to start fining us for daring to put a sheet of paper in the rubbish bin without recycling it, while these morons get away with doing this.

F*cking unbelievable.

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The Sony one is astonishing!

That one made me laugh my ass off.

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@IIsRT

So, if it's seen to be on the top of the box it's inaccurate as the thing's not actually upside down but, er, sideside down? "This way up" with an arrow pointing in the appropriate direction would make far more sense.

Still, I know a few people who'd be entertained for hours by being given one of those on its side, so maybe there's a purpose after all.

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Return to Sender

If they have a freepost address, send it all back! It works for junkmailers, eventually...

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Genius!

Certainly beats the occasion I ordered a 3-in-1 printer and printer cable from Amazon and the cable arrived in an identical box to the printer (and at the same time). Was too dumb(founded) to take pics unfortunately.

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Ebuyer

A year or two ago I ordered a few things from Ebuyer, including a cable (didn't want to pay high street prices)

The delivery came as two parts, at different times. The first was tightly packed had almost everything in it, and barely any padding (including Hard Disks etc.)

The second, well the delivery guy certainly found amusing. He even asked me to make absolutely sure what I'd ordered was in the box. The box you see was large enough for several 50" Television sets, but weighed almost nothing. Inside were hundreds of air-filled padding bags, some polystyrene stuff, and right in the middle, a solitary HDMI cable wrapped in about 5 layers of bubble wrap.

Needless to say, the actual thing I was interested in could have just been posted through the mailbox. Shame I didn't have a camera on me.

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ebuyer

The ebuyer box for the memory stick looks a familiar size ... some years ago when installing (wired) networking at home I needed some short ethernet cables to go between sockets and switches and PCs. So I ordered 4x 1 or 2m ethernet drop cables from ebuyer. As they offered a variety of colours I decided to order 4 different colours to make it easier to work out which was which later.

Few days later next door neighbour called to say a "large" delivery had arrived while I was at work and I went round to pick up a pile of 4 large boxes - each of which contained a single cable!

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As an ex warehouse employee I can see the other side

In some of these instances, the Sony one for example, the item probably arrives at the warehouse in the packaging. The people that pick and pack the items to be dispatched, probably dont have a clue as to what is actually in the smaller boxes. Perhaps you would rather receive your chips all in one bag (not anti-static) after being handled by a burly bloke wearing a cheap fleece jacket.

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GBICs?

Pardon my non-geekiness, but what are GBICs?

Great Big Indigo Crayons?

Goat-Biting Indian Crocodiles?

Gordon Brown Impeachment Criteria?

Enquiring minds want to know...

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Unboxing Porn

Have you noticed how similar this stuff is to porn?

"Open it up then". Ahahah, yeh baby!

Paris, cos she'd know how to slowly tease that package out.

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The Mailroom Clerk ...

... must have been given the job of taking out the trash. Nothing more than a typical corporate tact of getting it off my desk and onto yours.

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Discruntled warehouse staff

I wonder if it's a case of the staff at some of these companies are discruntled, maybe low pay etc so want to cost the company as much as possible. Although I guess in some cases it's just plain stupidity.

Surely these companies should be reported to Greenpeace or something.

I had one recently although it wasn't half as bad as these ones.

I bought a Microsoft points card for my XBOX so I could buy a game from XBOX Live. I sent the wife to Game to buy the card expecting just a credit card sized card in a plastic sleeve (like what you used to get with mobile phone top up cards). She got home and handed me a DVD case size package. I thought, okay maybe they use DVD cases, that's okay I'll keep it as a spare case, but NO, they provided a card in a DVD size case but it had a credit card size section moulded into it so when it was done with, well it was bugger all use and had to be chucked (it couldn't even be recycled!). At least with Nintendo they did at least provide a DVD case which could be re-used for Wii games.

That Sony one though takes the biscuit :-)

Great if you want a game of pass the parcel though :-D

Rob

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One thing to remember ...

... is that 99.99999% of paper comes from trees grown for their quick growth and high wood content. Thus, while all this is wasteful, surely, the trees that are used to do it are a crop, like wheat, turnips, or corn/maize.

And I, for one, refuse to give up Jack Daniels to save corn/maize.

Mine's the one with the flask autographed by Colonel Chinstrap.

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Answers on back of postcard

"*Or on a postcard strapped to a pallet, if you're from HP."

You really do owe me a new keyboard. Fcuking loved the whole article though!

Dabs seem to come into a league of their own when it comes to packaging though. Although it's not toooo large boxes for solidary items (couple of sata cables in a 1'x1'x1' box combined with lots of empty air bags for protection), it is certainly consistant. They deserve a prize for that - these examples are (I hope) exceptions to the norm.

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Jiffy Bags

At least you can recycle cardboard (in most places) now. Is it possible to return the jiffy bags to HP as faulty products?

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and they wonder why GreenPeace is after them....

HP is probably using some sort of 6sigma process for packaging. Since variance == waste packaging a laptop mem chip the same way you package a blade server will obviously reduce your waste.....

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Cost cutting.

All these boxes were not created just for your item they had them at the warehouse and want to get rid of them without all that hard work of cutting them up and paying for the recycling. "passing costs to the consumer"

Paris, because ________ _______ ________ ________ box _________________ [ fill in the blanks]

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@lIsRT

how did you do your headline upside down?

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I see this all too often...

We order OEM licenses on a regular basis, and quite often they will turn up in a box large enough for a 32" TV - despite comprising of a single peice of A4 paper in an envelope! Whilst I appreciate that we don't want them creasing, there is no need for the box to be so excessively large that it won't fit through our office doors!

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Jiffy Bags

Jiffy bags are re-useable many times over- readdress them with a sticky label and reseal them with parcel tape.

The chap with 768 used jiffy bags can probably make some beer money by flogging them in 20s or 50s on E-bay, especially if they don't yet have an address on them.

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Humph...

I feel totally ripped off by RS Components now - they only used one breadloaf-sized box, five stickers, two safety sheets and loads of paper bags to send me five watch batteries recently. What if they had got damaged?

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I love to shop at BigPockets

But a couple of weeks ago I ordered a mini laptop mouse. The type which can easily get lost on any IT persons desktop. Along with this order I also ordered a laptop. The box with the mouse arrived two days earlier than the laptop. I was surprised to lift the box and find it so light as I thought it contained the laptop. No, it did not but the box the mouse came in was bigger than the box the laptop arrived in.

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@ Chrisopher Rogers

"how did you do your headline upside down?"

It's easy, you turn the monitor over before you type it. :-)

Nick.

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@ Christopher Rogers

http://www.fliptextgenerator.com/

stuff you never knew existed in character sets

Some of them work better than others.

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That was great!

Just what I needed... unfortunately my laughing distracted the rest of the office ;) *hehehe*

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And one for contrast.

I once requested a bunch of developer info from AMD (back when the K7s first came out). The CD arrived in a cardboard envelope just large enough to hold the CD with a sticker containing my postal info stuck to the side.

Not all companies are braindead.

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@ Havin_it

GBIC = GigaBit Interface Converter. They're about the same size as a matchbox.

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MFI

Not excessive packaging, but I once had one sheet of A4, telling me a work-top was delayed, delivered by white van man...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/wtf_32.png

I'd had a phone call from MFI about 2 hours before telling me exactly what the piece of paper said..

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All your base are belong to us...

in HP's case... "all our wasteful packaging are belong to you (now)!"

No wonder Greenpeace is after them, along with Captain Kirk...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/28/shatner_hp/

You guessed it, my coat came from China bubble-wrapped in a SEMI-TRUCK SIZED CONTAINER.

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on the other hand

doesn't it amaze you how hard drives get sent in their manufacturer's box popped inside a plastic bag and sent through the post? Seem to work ok tho'

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I suspect

practical jokers in the shipping department. They must have some competition as to who can make the most ridiculous packaging and get away with it. The company has to eat the cost of shipping as well; pallets must be expensive to send, but the customer is still charged only 3.95 .

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GBICs

They have to be separately packaged to justify their cost. One standard sales trick is to quote a switch without GBICs so it seems like a really great deal

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Presumably Sony got all of CDW's ESD baggies

as those Opterons look awfully vulnerable to random discharges there.

And that dude with the NIC-in-the-box: I'm deducting multiple points for not using a box-cutter, or indeed knowing that you don't need any sort of sharp implement to open those plastic strap thingies which must have a proper name which I can't recall right now.

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'tis not incompetence

'tis a game played by HP warehouse staff to see who get get a mention in El Reg...

"The media is the message."

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Wait!

Has Paris put her "box" up for comparison? Surely her box to content ratio must challenge all we saw earlier...

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HP - ditto

I ordered a bunch of VMware licenses from HP, who shipped out a giant box . . . containing eight smaller boxes . . . each containing a plastic CD holder . . . each containing a VMware license redemption code. Not the license itself, mind you, which would have been almost useful, but a single-use code allowing me to get my licenses from VMware which were--wait for it--delivered electronically. The giant box was also packed with inflatable cushions, lest the effectively-empty boxes within be damaged.

I'm now sad I didn't take pictures.

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Welcome to the 'Post and Packaging' scam..

I wonder if the recipients of any of this stuff thought to look at the amount they were charged for frieght?

I once ordered a $15 USB to Serial converter that arrived in an enormous box like those... the freight on the thing cost more than twice the value of the part... I complained VERY loudly, but could not get the charges reduced since once a parcel is larger than a standard letter, the cost is based on the size of the box, not its weight... and apparently I had 'agreed' to the charges as part of the Terms of Service in the purchase...

If the dispatcher happens to get a nice backhander from the freight company... who's to know???

Look hard at your incoming freight bills people... you might be more horrified by the impact of this scam on your wallet than you are on the impact on the environment...

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@ Kanhef

You, sir, are right on the money there. When I was working in the store section of a factory back in the 90s, we did indeed have such contests as you describe. The record, at the time I left the factory, was held by a man who had packed 20 x 10cm long, 4cm diameter moisturiser vials into around 10 metres of bubble wrap, sealed in a carton designed to contain a disassembled shop-display gondola, surrounded by about 2 cubic metres of styrofoam packing chips in a washing-machine carton, the whole stretch-wrapped and strapped to a large pallet. We were cacking ourselves laughing as it was forklifted onto the delivery truck, I can only imagine the expressions on the faces of the client's receiving staff when they got it!

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Box-art

Does no one understand the trials of struggling box-art artists?

These warehouse creations are intended as a thing of industrial beauty.

It's art that can be recycled!!

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@Havin_it

Err... you don't need to be a geek to use Google - "What are GBICs?" works a treat.

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Must have been shipped UPS

Considering UPS' standard practice of running each package through a wood chipper, using a catapult to lob packages between distribution centers, then delivering it to your home via air drop from 10,000 feet all that bubble wrap might not be a bad idea. I'm reminded of the time I mail-ordered two expensive Kino-Flo fluorescent tubes, the supplier had wrapped them in 12 inches of bubble wrap, inside a stiff carboard box, followed by another foot of bubble wrap and another, thicker carboard box plastered with "FRAGILE: GLASS" stickers and somehow UPS still managed to break one by bending the entire two foot thick package in half.

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Hmm I wish I'd taken pics of mine now...

We ordered a plastic Mylar strip for one of our scanners at work - this thing is about ... 20cm long, 2cm wide and about as thick as a piece of cardboard.

It came in it's plastic wrapper, itself inside some heavy-duty fibre-board to stop it bending, THAT was inside a box which itself was inside a box filled with shredded paper and packaging materials.

So really, for something that weighs about 2 grams, and could be fitted in an envelope (maybe with some cardboard inside to help prevent bending), we ended up with a 2 foot by 2 foot by 2 foot box stuffed with crap.

Oh, it was from HP :)

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"Fragile: Glass" - red rag to a bull?

I suspect just as the bored staff in the packing department have contests, so do the bored staff in the shipping depot. In their case, "can we break it"? I'd suggest that the value of "Fragile" stickers is negative, it just encourages them.

A long time ago I took delivery of a disk drive (back then, 80Gb was the size of a washing machine). I spotted a hole in the cardboard and noted it on the delivery note before signing "contents not inspected". Good thing I did that.

When the engineer arrived and uncrated it, it was clear all was not well. The first sign of trouble was that the "washing machine" was no longer rectangular. A little more instection revealed a rectangular hole through the cabinet. Inside, the wreckage of the controller circuit boards was rattling around. (Today, several square feet of electronics has shrunk to a couple of square inches).

Total insurance write off (back then, ££££). A fork-lift driver had impaled it, and then, for good measure, dropped it from a considerable height. I guess drastic action was needed to get it off his prong before anyone noticed. Or I suppose it might have fallen off a stack in front of him moving at speed. Either way they were happy to send it on its way to become "Someone else's problem".

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ESRI

ESRI used to have a habit of sending ~50 retail packages if you have 50 licenses, we had to alter our contract just to get 1 box shipped, no matter how many times we told them we do a network install including the demo data, and we really didn't need a pallet full of those boxes 2 times a year.

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