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MySQL.com has been down for several hours today, after a power outage in the Swedish city where the open-source database project is hosted. This means users and developers were unable to access source code, documentation, discussion groups, and bug tracking. According to Duleepa "Dups" Wijayawardhana of Sun Microsystem's MySQL …

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CKM
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The Oracle deal has closed...

... welcome to your new world. Support will only be available on a per hour billable basis.

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Grenade

Apparently....

It's a power outage in Sweden where the site is based/hosted.

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LOLZ

I got the past few source code tarballs if anyone needs a copy! A modest deliver charge will apply though and only shipped on Blu-ray media, bwahahahah!

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Anonymous Coward

Re: power outage in Sweden

Surely they have hosting in more than one location? If not, then it just goes to show that their hosting arrangements are as amateurish as their products.

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FAIL

"Making work a bit tricky"

Serves you right for relying on what is effectively unsupported free software to do your job. You gets what you pays for.

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Grenade

so are .de .it .fr ...

but they all point to 213.136.52.29 so that is hardly news.

Conspiracy anybody ???

but mysql.be is up & running but points to 80.84.224.17

Well looks like the MySql cluster is not working great ;o)

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Paris Hilton

So?

But according to one user in Birmingham, UK, www.mysql.com, dev.mysql.com, bugs.mysql.com, and forum.mysql.com have been down for a bit longer - since about 4am Pacific. This, he says, is "making work a bit tricky."

What, you can't work properly if you can't access mysql.com? Only people who can't work properly if mysql.com would be the people who code the website, I would think. Now, I can't work properly if El Reg is down, but I don't ever remember that happening in the 8 years I've read it... that's what I call uptime!

Paris, 'cos she knows about keeping things up.

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Grenade

Maybe it was Oracle ...

I got this probe on a web site I have. If I used the DB, it would be MySQL.

(ip) - - [11/Jul/2009:09:04:09 -0400] "GET //admin/main.php HTTP/1.1" 404 221 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

(ip) - - [11/Jul/2009:09:04:05 -0400] "GET //phpmyadmin/main.php HTTP/1.1" 404 226 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

(ip) - - [11/Jul/2009:09:04:04 -0400] "GET //phpMyAdmin/main.php HTTP/1.1" 404 226 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

(ip) - - [11/Jul/2009:09:04:14 -0400] "GET //dbadmin/main.php HTTP/1.1" 404 223 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

(ip) - - [11/Jul/2009:09:04:19 -0400] "GET //mysql/main.php HTTP/1.1" 404 221 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

(ip) - - [11/Jul/2009:09:04:21 -0400] "GET //myadmin/main.php HTTP/1.1" 404 223 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

(ip) - - [11/Jul/2009:09:04:20 -0400] "GET //php-my-admin/main.php HTTP/1.1" 404 228 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

I figured it was a script kiddie. But ... Windows 98 ... MSIE 6 ... maybe it was Oracle!

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Website actually quite useful you know

"What, you can't work properly if you can't access mysql.com?"

Well, given it is the place all the source code is distributed from, and where the documentation is located, and where the bug tracker is, and where the support forum lives etc. it might make it a bit hard if you were doing a new MySQL installation today, which I was! Serves me right I guess ...

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Couple of things...

@Gannon (J.) Dick

If you spend any time looking at the logs of any real-ife web server, you'll be aware that those scans occur all the time; they started when a bug was discovered in phpmyadmin (which is completely seperate to mysql)

I have fail2ban looking for that type of log entry, blocking any zombies that are trying to crack my machine... 1 strike and you're blocked!!

As for the people complaining about not being able to access the site, you might like to know that google has a handy "cached:" search option.

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Google Cache

Try browsing forum.mysql.com using Google cache, go on! Aside from the fact Google only caches the text and you have to click the 'text-only link', there's no way of navigating this way.

It's OK for getting one-off pages but its hardly a replacement for the site itself.

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@ Nick Loman

"Well, given it is the place all the source code is distributed from, and where the documentation is located, and where the bug tracker is, and where the support forum lives etc. it might make it a bit hard if you were doing a new MySQL installation today, which I was! Serves me right I guess ..."

You're absolutely right, because there's nowhere else online where you can get mysql installers or support.

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FAIL

what is so hard about keeping up a website?

Furthermore, what's with it being hosted in Sweden. What are they able to dodge taxes here in the US by hosting it in Sweden? The ownership appears to be Sun, Sun doesn't have any servers it can lend to host MySql.com?

The website stats for mysql.com show more US visitors then any other country, Sweden doesn't even make up 1% of it's share.

More big corporate tax evasion, more big corporate fail. Might as well sell the domain and watch Suns stock price continue to go into the toilet.

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Hmmmm

@James Woods

MySQL is owned by MySQL AB (now owned by Sun), a Swedish company. It's a Swedish company maintaining a Swedish project hosted in Sweden. Maybe you'd like to slap that FAIL tag on to your forehead.

Re: Couple of things..

That's all very clever until someone decides to spoof your IP...

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@James Woods

Maybe you'd realize that mySQL was not developed in US, and instead hold by the Swedish company mySQL AB, in Sweden where mySQL was developed, before Sun purchased it

Why should they move servers or anything else after a purchase to a different country?

They do however also have an hq in USA

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Happy

Time to create some kind of super P2P system...

We need to create some far more robust *generic* way of storing all online data. So it can store, web sites, forums, wiki's, source code, etc.. in a distributed data storage system. Some kind of super P2P system thats a web server and a database and uses other copies to check its integrity. Then the loss of one node in the system doesn't create an outage, it just slows the system up a bit. This super P2P system needs to have ways to group data, as current P2P systems are a messy mass of single files, so this super P2P needs to in effect also be its open disk operating system, giving a way to group data into projects and subdirectories etc..

This kind of super P2P structure would also bypass censorship, as web sites in it couldn't be taken down. It would also route around any loss of individual storage nodes.

Also just as importantly it should always use encrypted comms to avoid ISP spying and interference and also all web hosting becomes local and so effectively free for everyone. It could easily end up creating the next step in evolution for the Internet where its totally distributed. It wouldn't replace the Internet, it would just backup and protect the important sites on the Internet.

It wouldn't mean everyone backs up everything. It would just mean everyone on a project would all have the latest files they need in their own local archive in a managed shared way, or at the very least if they don't have all the files it would mean they could get the files from multiple locations. (Also as some kind of super P2P becomes its own server, ISPs would also find it harder to limit its download speeds. Plus as it became more important, ISPs would be under more pressure to free up access to it).

@"The Oracle deal has closed"

Time to branch MySQL. :)

The bosses with the money love the idea of the so called "just in time" delivery system, because they don't have to pay for storage. Open source projects also operate the same way. A centralized database we assume is always there and ready to give us data without us having to store it locally. The problem with "just in time" – I.e. the "I want it now" mindset is that it doesn't buffer anything, so any loss of service suddenly creates a state of panic for bosses who then go around bullying their minions into panicking about the gap in service.

Some kind of Super P2P would avoid outages and free up the Internet again.

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Upp. is down?

It must be proof that godless socialism is nothing compared to apple pie fuelled democracy which is Capitalism.

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