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Just because the recording industry keeps a close eye on internet file-sharing these days doesn't mean you can evade the long arm of justice, antiquated mediums of entertainment! Indeed, Spanish police in the western province of Extremadura have recently conducted a major sting against bars selling crooked music videos on …

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Pirate

right

i feel safer already

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Something similar...

I was at a friends birthday party and she had a DJ. Rather than the old decks and vinyl, he played his tracks from a laptop. The quality of some of the songs (including "popping") clearly indicated that the tracks had been downloaded.

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Erm...

So umm they send 100 police to round up those jukeboxes but when I go into downtown Syracuse and see dealers everywhere there isnt a cop left to be seen? Wonder if the boys in blue we pay to protect us were there. Might explain what they were doing.

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@ Erm...

In which part of Spain is Syracuse? :)

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It's about time

Every time I go out, there's always one of them causing trouble.

Making lots of noise, flashing their damn lights, eating money.

It's about time they rounded up those damn duke boxes.

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Oh my...

James O'Brien & real jacob. Grow up. Please.

This is a real crime with real costs. Sounds like a good police oporation. Oddly enough the police don't just do what you want them too, they try and enforce all laws.

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Re : James O'Brien

James, drug taking, and the deallers who supply the product are a 'social problem', whereas playing unlisenced music is a _CRIME_.

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Insert coin for title

The jukes of El Hazard?

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@Andrew Moore

Just because they are downloaded doesn't make them illegal, that's not what the article is about. Distribution is different to a live DJ, I would think it is cloer to a rental shop license than a public broadcast licesnse. That's why rental videos used to cost 10x the price of purchased videos (and I guess the same for DVD's and games)

Also you'll find many dj's have archived off their personal 12" collection into MP3 to save lugging around 100kg of vinyl.

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Priorities

Yeah, take the jukeboxes away and arrest the people who had the jukeboxes installed and who probably had no idea that there were any criminal activities going on...

No talk of arresting the guys who built and supplied the jukeboxes, just their unwitting marks.

...and of course the police have fucked their businesses too, now that there is a blank piece of wall where there used to be a video jukebox.

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Paris Hilton

@James O'Brien RE:"when I go into downtown Syracuse..."

You pay for the Spanish police to protect you in the US? Really? That's a curiously roundabout way of doing things. Or is there a Syracuse in western Spain that I'm not familiar with?

Read first, regurgitate bile and outrage afterwards.

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@Something similar...

"The quality of some of the songs (including "popping") clearly indicated that the tracks had been downloaded"

Right, because stuff that's been downloaded is made out of those dodgy knocked off ones and zeroes that fell off the back of a lorry...

Maybe he used some old decks to copy all of that old vinyl onto his laptop (probably a lot easier to carry around) and made a bollocks of the quality? *shrug*

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Wouldn't it be safer

.. if we just ditched recorded music completely and went back to making our own? Y'know, those quaint evenings when the whole family was clustered around the family piano, belting out some tunes that dad had composed?

FFS!

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@ Andrew Moore

Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ.

I'd expect at least quality downloads - and the different recoding levels sorted out before expecitng others to pay for the 'priviledge' of a DJ.

As for video jukeboxes -- nice idea, self-contained box - hard drive, menu system, loads of music vids, coin mechanism. Can't be too much to set up, vids cost nothing.

Wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of the 'business men' who run the operatoin.

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DJs

I know a few DJ's as part of my job and I dare say a fair few of them download their music off the net usually in crappy MP3 format.

However they do pay a license to PRS.

Rob

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monitary gain

How exactly do you know these are drug dealers and how exactly are they endangering you?

As for the jukeboxes, I'd much rather people trying to dupe and make a profit are gone after instead of music downloaders.

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Paris Hilton

What part of IFPI don't I understand?

And why did I read "IFPI (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry)," as International Federation of the Pornographic Industry?

I better have a little lie down now.

Yeah, you know why.

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Paris Hilton

Not sure about this

If I was an artist (or even a publisher) worrying about not getting any cash from the public for my performances, why would I remove what amounts to free advertising in the form of jukeboxes?

Are they afraid people will record the sound and pictures with their mobile phones and be so impressed with the lifelike authentic backgraound pub chatter that they will no longer rush out and buy a cd?

Or do they believe that we should pay for the privilege of hearing the music that might lead us to think "hmmm, nice track, think I'll take a punt on a cd"

I know the juke box owners/pub owners are unlicenced, but I'm questioning whether they ought to need a licence other than a public performance licence for a juke box? Most pubs (well some) already have a public performance licence.

Seems like not much gain for an awful lot of effort on the part of the industry police and I'd have thought they would be happy people were being exposed to songs while out and being happy, as that might mean they will want to recreate the happiness at home and go out and buy the music. Oh wait, that is advertising.

Paris, why not?

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