So ends the Sun.

Farewell SUN, I liked your stuff and the way you did things. Much as I would prefer that you don't just become a nameplate on someone else's kit I don't hold out much hope.

Does this mean we have to go back to fighting with Intel's Brain-Dead BIOS. No!!!! Say it isn't so!!!!!!!!!

My suggestion is a portmanteau as it were, a combination of Sun and Oracle. I call it... Suckle

Yes, I added a K.

The competition is open to all. Blaze away.

Schwartz finally killed Sun.

Either way Sun is dead, gone, history.

Burroughs, Compaq, DEC, Wang, Honeywell, SGI, DataGeneral, Sequent, Amdahl, etc...

There is only one reason Sun died....the executive team. An embarrassment with the Scott top ten lists to the April fools joke with pony tail boy.

I just feel sorry for the people who tried so hard working for the company. That being said we are moving everything to IBM. We trust IBM. We have had enough of Oracle price increases (47% last year), audits then feeling bullied to pay millions more, and finally the Sun gear is a joke compared to the rest of the industry. Would you buy AMD gear if they were selling Pentium III stuff vs. Xeon?

We are moving to Power first then will move to DB2 as they have Oracle compatibility now.

SAP is making it VERY attractive to dump Oracle and Sun completely.

looking for new Mojo

>Does this mean we have to go back to fighting with Intel's Brain-Dead BIOS. No!!!!

>Say it isn't so!!!!!!!!!

You can still try IBM's brain-dead JFS2 (the one which requires almost daily fscks)

I have more hope for Sun under Larry Ellison than I did under Scott McNealy or Jonathan Schwartz, both of whom were criminally incompetent to the point where, if I were a Sun shareholder, I would consider launching a class-action suit. Companies are legally obliged to perform to the best of their abilities, and under McNealy and Schwartz, Sun has floundered under their lack of vision; their imagination stretched only as far as cutting engineering staff, and what you see now is the legacy of that management.

As a former employee of Sun (and ever since, a Sun-certified, experienced practitioner with Sun technologies), I am sad to see that Sun finally had to be bought out by someone who could actually run the company for the purpose of making money, because the resident management could not see past their big egos. Say what you like about Larry, but Oracle is run well because he knows how to run it. On some level, I hope Sun will benefit from this.

Sun had some GREAT engineering staff (and I am sure still does), and working with them was a real treat. It was just unfortunate that one of my colleagues (a lady who used to work for Commodore), accurately foretold that Sun would end up like Commodore, sooner or later. With her experience, I guess she would know...

As much as I loved working with Solaris, I'm rapidly becoming a BSD / Linux / IBM guy. Having all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea, and especially if that egg is called Solaris: even though OpenSolaris will survive, I doubt that it will gain much traction in an industry that is already in love with Linux - especially if Ellison decides to kill off Solaris in favour of Linux.

Nah, it will be called Or-Sun, as in Welles or Cart, see what I did there? Horse'n'Cart...ah it's wasted on you lot!

We get a 60% discount for Oracle...but weblogic went up 47% last year and the database products went up 19%....just was we were looking to cut costs Oracle killed us

Don't know what you are doing. JFS2 is pretty much bullet proof provided that you are not running AIX5.1 pre ML6 or AIX 5.2 pre ML3. AIX 5.3 and 6.1 has always worked, at least on the 500+ AIX systems I have had a hand in running since JFS2 came along.

There have been problems, but JFS2 is now pretty stable. Looks like there is a current problem with rolling back snapshots, but otherwise....

Check your ML/TL/SP, if you have not already done so.