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It's come to our attention that California "retail boutique" Primitive Shoes - owned by professional skateboarder and thesp Paul Rodriguez Jr, aka "P-Rod" - has been playing it a bit free and easy with our beloved El Reg Vulture logo: The Register logo seen on Primitive Shoes t-shirt Ahem. Much as we'd like to raise a red cup …

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Take him...

for every penny he's got and then lock him up and throw away the key! The dirtynogoodscroungingfreetard!

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Don't be daft.

It's a logo of a vulture, what do you expect it to look like. Besides, their logo has a shoulder and is facing the right way.

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Pirate

Thieving Gits!

Go over there, Lester, and kick them in the 'nads!

That'll learn 'em!

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Pirate

I would say his is significantly different from your's

As it is facing the other way and is a different colour.

But never fear get your lawyers from the same place as the RIAA and they will sue their ass of guilty of not. But if you do will you become the thing you despise most.

Of course copyright seems to be a little more important now!

I want a

'As seen on El Reg' T-shirt

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@Don't be daft

Natalie,

It's always worth checking before you comment and look silly.

http://www.cashandcarrion.co.uk/frame_reg_heritage.html?i=7624391&t=Reg%20Logo%20Tee%20White

Or if thats not big enough for you to notice the obvious plagiarism, try this one.

http://www.cashandcarrion.co.uk/images/pure_reg/pure_reg_vulture-blk.png

Or infact I could be wrong and flipping an image and using it in this way does not breach copyright.

Go Reg Go!

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Passing off

Yeah, that must be really hurting The Reg's Californian shoe retail operation - you hit him hard.

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@dunncha

I'm guessing you haven't seen the old Reg logo, as visible in this screenshot:

http://www.ntk.net/2001/05/04/dohreg.gif

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arguabley...

you got your logo from vultures in cartoons... your logo isnt exactly something you thought up 100% is it? its like any vulture in a cartoon you will ever see. i can see that is bloody close to yours (i guess they could have even copy/pasted and mirrored) but still.... a vulture is a vulture ;)

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But it's not the same vulture

It's clearly facing the other way

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Anonymous Coward

Fair's fair!

Let's have him extradited to the UK and banged up for 70 years!

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Anonymous Coward

Go for the throat

make the bastards read the whole of our JSOX compliance documentation. That'll learn 'em.

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Anonymous Coward

Ahh the American Infidals

Send out the black helicopters (or Airwolf)

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That's One Fired Designer

He's accountable for it, but I doubt he selected the logo.

He'll profusely apologize, remove the logo, and send the dumbass designer packing.

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No way!

The head is the wrong way round, like totally coin-style, unlike yours, which is stamp-style bro.....

In america, that is as good as completely different dude.....

whoah!

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@Natalie Gritpants

Not so fast:-

http://regmedia.co.uk/2005/12/06/reg_75.gif

The image clearly has a shoulder.

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@dunncha

No... Thats the commentards your thinking of...

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Pirate

What?

You mean the crack team of urban skateboarders cruising around LA are NOT sponsored by the Register?

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WTF?

@ Natalie Gritpants

A vulture, like everything has two sides so how can be it be facing the 'right' way?

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a....___....a

Send Sarah over

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Go

Send the Moderatrix after him!

She'll whip him into submission!

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I thought your logo was familiar...

...are you sure you didn't pinch it from a skateboard you saw when you were a kid?

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Troll

The Reg is Trolling... itself?

Bring on the commentards.

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Get off my lawn, you dam' kids! @Gritpants/dunncha

Hi n00bs! <waves> It's easy to think you're being clever when you're actually merely ignorant of the facts.

That's the old El Reg logo, from before the redesign, that they've ripped off utterly blatantly. You probably aren't old enough to remember back that far, but see here for comparison; it's identical:

http://www.cashandcarrion.co.uk/reg_heritage.html

'tch. Kids these days don't know their history. Bah!

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Is it me...

It looks like one of those creatures from old Bugs Bunny cartoons, the ones in space?

Paris, because she knows all about head...

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world class scavengers

Clearly!

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does nobody talk anymore

why have you not tried talking to him, maybe he would freely agree to make a payment for use of the logo, maybe he will sell el reg merchandise.......sending the lawyers straight in is pretty low.

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logo on a t-shirt too

The logo is used the right way round on this t-shirt :-)

http://www.primitiveshoes.com/product_photos/large/vulturegry07092500.jpg

Dirty pirates.

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@Natalie

No, this is definately The Register's logo, the one displayed at the top has changed slightly over the years but the old version was identical to this right down to the colours. It's still in use, look at the merchandise in the shop - http://www.cashandcarrion.co.uk/

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but...

Everything on the internet is free and without copyright?

Isn't it....?

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Oh look it IS The Reg's logo...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/02/05/register_screensaver_challenge/

a quick google of 'vulture logo' and you'll see where he got his inspiration from.

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@Natalie

Because its the land of the sue and if you ain't sueing someone you ain't nobody. and turning the graphic around and adding a semi cicle doesn't make stealing right.

I'm sure if they sent an E-mail to El Reg requesting the use of the graphic the old farts would be happy to be associated with the yoof of America.

Not saying that your farts just passed the display date, not quite at the best before date though

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IT Angle

Are there ways to register a logo?

And are there modest difference rules?

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For those who doubt El Reg's copyright

http://www.cashandcarrion.co.uk/frame_reg_heritage.html?i=7624419&t=Reg%20Logo%20(Black)%20Tee%20White

@dunncha - Your attitude disgusts me. Copyright has always been important since it's inception it was there to protect artists and writer's from those who would steal their work.

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@ Don't be daft.

@ Don't be daft. By Natalie Gritpants Posted Thursday 16th July 2009 12:35 GMT

> It's a logo of a vulture, what do you expect it to look like. Besides, their logo has a shoulder and is facing the right way.

It's a vulture in exactly the same style & proportion as our beloved ElReg, and facing the WRONG way! -- with a shoulder.

The placing of the eye is 'stylised' too. Ooh! But it's red!

Sheesh! Next it'll be okay for hungry-bird pie-search websites to misspeel themselves There Gister

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Send over...

The sharks armed with frickkin' lasers already :P

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It's not "Copyright infringement"

...if anything, it's "registered trademark infringement".

But didya register the Reg Logo likeness internationally or just in the UK?

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Reversed logos

Prior Art

Just compare the guinness logo and the Ireland Republic harp.... they're just mirrored so they aren't the same thing.

Albert.

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Re:No way!

"The head is the wrong way round, like totally coin-style, unlike yours, which is stamp-style bro....."

Maybe the plaintiff will get a dyslexic judge.

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Go for 'em

& if it doesn't look like it's working, change the charges half way through the trial (in true Riaa lawyer style) to: Wearing a loud shirt in a built up area during the hours of darkness...

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hmm

i would say its theft. if you google Vulture Logo the first result is:

http://regmedia.co.uk/2001/09/12/363.gif

which is exactly the same logo, just flipped and with its eye coloured red...

naughty naughty

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Re: Facing the wrong way.

Lester. Do us a favour. Turn that pennant over and photograph the other side for the benefit of the denizens of fucktardia, who seem to be out in force here today.

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Content Inventor/Thought Broker...... An Enigmatic Partnership

Surely Prior Art Use Proof trumps every argument, whether Registered or not.

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Copyright and trade mark infringement

It is an infringement of copyright (if it can be proved that it has been copied - i.e. the potential infringer had sight of the original - given the likeness this seems likely.)

It is also potentially an infringement of El Reg's registered trade mark (which is for publishing etc, not clothing):

US Registered Trademark: 3531038

Community Trade Mark (EU): 3348381

I say "potentially" because (at least according to UK / Europe TM law, and this stuff is pretty well harmonised supranationally; any US IP attorneys reading?) El Reg will need to prove that consumers are confused into thinking that theses 'fake' T-shirts were made by El Reg.

In any case, a strongly worded letter should do the trick.

Tux, because all good software engineers need to be IP lawyers, nowadays.

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@ pctechxp

"A vulture, like everything has two sides"

A Möbius strip has only one.

Where's the pedant icon? Oh, I suppose that guy will do.

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If I flip the Macdonalds logo over, can I claim it as mine?

No I can't.

Get over the flipping flipping you lot.

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Down with IP

You don't Own the likeness of that animal..

The Head is sufficiently different to be acceptable....

We really need to do something about IP, it's gone too far...

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breach of copyright?

Breach of copyright? Try trademark infringement.

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No chance

That guy in the States wears a black necklace, no chance I''ll ever fly to do something good to mankind, just the opposite of El Reg's vulture.

Let'm off the hook I'd say - mercy to those who don't know better.

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"So why the vulture?"

El Reg's official Vulture story goes thusly:

"Our logo is the brainchild of Reg co-founder John Lettice. Many years ago - 1995, or 1996 - The Register produced a small newsletter to dole out at CeBIT. John says he chose the vulture for the masthead as an ironic take on the eagle used so often on newspapers. We think it was because his clipart CD didn't have an eagle." -

As per http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/30/el_reg_vulture_found_in_bag_of_crisps/ (other old reg logos here, also).

Other 'classic' vulture logo stories worth an airing:

-> Preposterous Strategy Boutique-athon @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/09/logowatch_the_vulture_laid_bare/

-> Stalin in an El Reg T-Shirt @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/09/11/readers_gallery/

-> High geekery (arf) @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/09/08/vulture_hits_new_heights/

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