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Ireland's largest internet service provider Eircom is blaming hackers for its second bout of recent downtime. Eircom customers could not get online for much of yesterday evening, although the firm said full access was restored from 11.15pm. Just the week before many Eircom subscribers were sent to the wrong websites thanks to …

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I blame IRMA

Maybe it was IRMA trying to spy on possible uploaders. Or is the total lack of investment in the company ever since it was privatised beginning to show and ye olde sefvers are beginning to crap out...

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Hackers, or incompetence?

Personally, I wouldn't call a DDoS, hacking. In a traditional sense would be taking control of a remote computer by Backdoor Trojanal activity. A DDoS is usually from a Bot Network, which is created by becoming infected, usually by a trojan, and usually from iRC ports and servers.

Eircom should be in a position to block or fend off a DDoS attack, as control of the packets is something better handled at network, rather than by a firewall, and I know I've oversimplified it, however an ISP should have the abillity and bandwith to handle a doubling of traffic with ease.

And, normal service being resumed, sounds more like a drop off in the DDoS, rather than something that Eircom itself did.

Perhaps, it is time that Eircom reviewed it's own policies and inadequacies in handling what was by their own words, merely a doubling of traffic, hardly SYN flooding at it's optimum.

N.Korea, switching targets maybe, bored with Yanks, wanting a challenge, picked on possibily,the most obsidious world power after maybe, Fiji, or Papua New Guinea.

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I know why

It is due to them being the 'music' industry's bitch, folding against their baseless and unenforceable threats instead of letting the 'music' industry humiliate themselves in court

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Not really a downed network.

I'd agree in it not being called a hack. And a doubling in requests shouldn't topple a network. Especially seeing they are only DNS requests.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but all that was wrong with the Eircon network was that their two dns servers were under attack. Shouldn't that mean that direct IP traffic or users that had an alternative DNS service such as OpenDNS should have been ok?

And what sort of ISP are they, who can't filter their logs to see what IP addresses were DDOsing them.

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Pirate

is there anyone here who doesn't know why eircom is being targeted?

Cos i do.

one has to suspect that eircom does 'n' all.

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They may not know....

..but they must suspect, it was the first thing I thought of as I read the story.

... a link for you at the back under the rock that may not already know

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18327

"Eircom will operate a three-strikes-and-you’re out policy “against illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) downloaders"

Icon especially selected with love and thrown at Eircom.

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It's all the new customers

Flocking to the new MAFIAA controlled ISP

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Eircom customers vent their anger?

Hackers? More likely disgruntled customers pissed off at their appalling service managed to find some way of venting their anger at Eircom for once.

The Eircom statement on the affair is a laugh. "No customer records were exposed"- it was a DDOS attack guys- why would anyone imagine data was exposed?

Unfortunately its yet another manifestation of the ineptitude of Eircom and their broadband services. I left years ago- thank god there are alternates.......

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Seems to just be DNS again

I'm with the wankers, but I use OpenDNS, and I've no issues.

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Rain Cloud

A very timely lesson for any company thinking of replacing their computers and apps with cloud-clients.

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DNS hacked?

According to the forum posts, or this:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0714/breaking15.html?via=mr

the DNS servers were sending people to porn sites during the first attack (last week). Does this imply the DNS servers were hacked? Did eircom perhaps fail to apply certain recent critical DNS patches? Or could the high traffic volumes alone have caused this?

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Pffft....

Just manually set my DNS addresses to the old Indigo ones and I was up and running with minimal downtown.

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expertise ??

"Eircom has been in contact with other operators in the Irish market to collaborate and pool technical expertise in this area."

This should actually read... They don't know what the hell it was and need help as they are clueless when it comes to operating a network.

Rant over.

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Anonymous Coward

Occam's Razor

Yes. North Korea is mad at Eircom

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Alert

Eircom still has customers???

Fools.

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Nutts

http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/flame_32.png

This attack has been going on for over a week, and all that eircom are saying is that they are experiencing difficulties .......

http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/joke_32.png

eircom are saying that it is only DNS, yet most customers are not even getting assigned an IP address from the DHCP servers .... lines being dropped all over the place .... my recommendation - find another provider http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/grenade_32.png

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The Black Hat Watch Civil XXXXPEditionary Working Force

Re: Hackers, or incompetence?

"insidious (adj) : producing serious harm in a stealthy, often gradual, manner; intending to entrap " .... http://ninjawords.com/obsidious

"N.Korea, switching targets maybe, bored with Yanks, wanting a challenge, picked on possibily,the most obsidious world power after maybe, Fiji, or Papua New Guinea." .... By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 14th July 2009 15:03 GMT

If that is to suggest, AC, that Ireland and Celts can produce serious change in a stealthy, often gradual, manner; intending to entrap and enchant, then I would agree.

They are a QuITe MaJICal Race with Special Intelligence Services. A Stupid Civil War against Friends banded Foe taught them Well the Perceptive Nature of Reality.

And that makes them XXXXStreamly Competent. A Question which one can always ask of the First and Deputy First Ministers for Plausible Denial or Ambiguous Confirmation. [well, it is Sensitive Priceless InterNetional Intellectual Property Issues which are being BetaTested]

I have a Question of El Regers.

When do you know, when you have Cracked the System to ITs RadioActive Core and have Drivers of Infinite Choice with Absolute Powers for Controllers HyperRadioProActive in New Directions, that others who should know, also know?

Although the Wiser Tool, in Order Never to be Fooled, will Always Default to just Thinking IT has Cracked the System ... and Run an Advanced Intelligent BetaTest ........Search and ReSearch against Discovery and Library Content for No Future Entry Current for this Subject ... Virgin Territory.

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P2P revenge

I did ask if they thought the attack had anything to do with their attitude to P2Pers and was told they had no evidence of that...

cheers

john

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Alien

Holy Clap Trap Batman...

Amanfrommars is well and truely on form today...

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@amanfromMars

"insidious (adj) : producing serious harm in a stealthy, often gradual, manner; intending to entrap " .... http://ninjawords.com/obsidious

As always enjoy your posting. And that is complimentary.

As the original poster, I would like to point out to you a glaring mistake in your reposte.

Insidious, is a completely different word, from Obsidious.

obsidious adjective. rare. E17.

[from Latin obsidium siege, from obsidere: see OBSESS, -IOUS.]

Besieging; besetting.

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IRMA's Gimp

Keep up the good work - whoever is 'hacking' the Gimp of the IRMA!

They deserve all they get.

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Quantum Leap Communications ... for Virtual TelePortation Lode Mode.

Thanks, AC Posted Wednesday 15th July 2009 10:12 GMT, a Jung Freudian mistake and constructive error which avoided conscious delivery. ie I didn't notice the unconscious transposition, which as you say, is complimentary.

It now allows me to Play with the Notion that through Advanced CyberIntelAIgent Design is Complimentary Unconscious Transposition of Thought Possible in Virtual Operating Systems.

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Unhappy

dns my i

Haircom don't even know what hit them. When we were dealing with them (past five years) the DNS servers would used to sit down regular every 7-8 weeks or so because they cached-up - couldn't see in or out through the node unless using IP addys. Ridiculous, I know, but you could set your watch by the brownouts.

Heard their servers are kept in a block god-knows-where, down the back, climb the ladder, move the teachests, swipe the cobwebs, hit with a hammer. That's if you can get a gentleman on a penny farthing to go down there and he has the keys.

Typically takes 24-36 hours to flush/reload to fetch DNS again. Suffice to say, it's superfluous to hack Haircom as they'll balls it up themselves without trying and won't even know they have a problem. You don't need a hacker to redirect you to a pr0n page.

This sounds like one of those head_scratching moments of Haircom wonderment and awe rather than the first strike in a Sino-Russo-nKoreo attack on Fortress Dublin.

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