The next version of Microsoft's Flash-challenger media player has hit the web, ahead of Friday's official launch. The final Silverlight 3 runtime for users and software development kit (SDK) for programmers have been published to the web and were available for download as of Thursday afternoon. You can get the SDK here and …
I don't mind ....
... having Silverlight on my Windows machine, however Mycrotchsoft (©flybert2009) loses major credibility when you checkout the Silverlight site and play the stupid low res Expression 2 image editor video, which played full screen looks terrible
Expression Studio pages are worse .. errors abound ( in IE6, BTW ) and the "Tour" vid takes forever to buffer ( I have 300kbps+ down connect ) and buffers every few seconds, and for more time than it's actually playing .. honestly had to stop about 14 seconds in it was so bad
other bugs too .. checki it out
Expression Studio pages say you can use it to create content in the new "Siverlight 1.0" .. comethefuckon Mycrotchsoft .. you're directing, from Silverlight 3 downloads, developers that might be curious about Expression Studio to crapass funky presentation on pages created, I would suppose, with your own tools ?
at least get the shit to work on your own websites with your own web browser .. idiots ..
Where oh where
is the Linux version??????
What will Office web applications actually be?
Installed pretty slick for me.
I am interested in what Office Web applications actually turns out to be. It sounds like it has potential, but I've heard some muttering about it being pretty limited and tied into SharePoint, which sounds like a MS strategy and changes things a bit
...it'll work with ie6 ? And all linuxes too?
Have to give it to them the picture quality is A1
Doesn't work on Opera.
Finally, the ability to run SL as a standalone app or in the browser without a lot of faffing.
Now for all the posts from Linux evangelists about how crap it is despite never having used it!
I acquired a new office PC and discovered Silverlight installed so I uninstalled it. I need a new web 'standard' and browser plug-in like a hole in the head so I'm going to resist this one as long as possible. If I need Silverlight to view your website then I'm just not going to bother viewing it.
Perhaps all the advertisers could switch from using Flash to Silverlight?
No use to me
Went to the download page in Opera, didn't like that, no version for linux. Another peice of proprietory bloatware I don't have to worry about.
And so the web divide continues
Will this new tech be compatible with browsers other than Internet Explorer? Will there be a GNU/Linux or FreeBSD or (insert name of favourite O/S here) ......... version?
The web is supposed to be about getting information out there to people, making it as accessible as possible. I'm guessing this will only be available to a subset of internet users.
Is it just me? I mean I surf a lot, but I've still not yet hit a site that requests SilverLight. Flash? Yes. TheVideoBay? A decent browser.
SilverLight though? Nope.
Rearrange these words
Not I Do Fuck Give A.
I can barely tolerate Flash as it is (thank god for FlashBlock and AdBlock). As video etc is becoming so much a part of the web, it is high time there was a standard to cover all this.
Proprietary formats lead to multiple plug-ins bollocks and bloat.
What's in it for me?
So, what's the benefit for me? I'm not going to download something just for the sake of it. What does Siverlight give me that I can't achieve without Silverlight?
I can see MS facing an uphill battle here.
And why does Office online need it? What's wrong with HTML 5? Or is it that IE8 makes such a pigs ear of applying standards that MS figured it would be easier to develop a whole new AIR environment to see off Google Apps (disclaimer: I don't use Google Apps either).
In summary: what's the fecking point of this?
"ITV player" (i.e. there streaming catchup service) uses it.
... n.b. are MS putting the hooks into DX10/11 so that the video processing can be offloaded onto the gfx card - as this makes atom+ion combos much more useful.
Silverlight will never be popular until there is a proper Linux version (Moonlight doesn't seem to be compatible with a lot of the content out there).
This is because Linux is disproportionally popular among web developers - and they are unlikely to introduce something that will not work on their own PC.
I don't even think that it needs to be open source.
I agree ... tried moonlight on the ITV site, and it FAILed !
Still, i'm not complaining... another reason not to pay my tv licence!
Too little, too late
Flash is already everywhere and Silverlight can't go everywhere Flash can. Game over.
What's wrong with HTML 5. It's HTML, that's what wrong with it.
Moonlight - will trail Silverlight by 6 - 9 months
Scott Guthrie said that the open source version - Moonlight - will trail Silverlight by 6 - 9 months.
The Point Is This
The point is that there are a lot of .Net developers out there that would love to be able to develop really good looking and interactive web apps and without Silverlight there is no easy way for them to do that without having to learn to code in Flash etc. Silverlight allows these developers to use their already existing skills and as a bonus to Microsoft it keeps them tied in to using Microsoft tools etc.
From a user persepctive it will hopefully lead to some decent web sites / apps that look great and have tons of functionality. Installing it is a no brainer for most users (those using windows and IE).
Yes it would be nice if we all used standards that meant anything and everything could be viewed no matter what platform you were using but I suspect world peace and a end to all hunger will arrive long before then. Personally I like a multiplicity of choices, life would be boring if we all did the same thing.
Is it just me...
...or does every SilverLight enabled site crash my browser the moment you try to navigate away? This seems to happen in every browser I have tried but especially in Opera. Every single time, no matter what size the SilverLight applet is, it crashes. I don't recall flash being that bad.
Still; only interesting thing I've needed SilverLight for is the Gigapixel images from Kolor that use SilverLight to drill into the panoramas (which once done, crashed my browser... joy).
Don't want, thanks!
Thank you for your interest in my browsing experience. I have reviewed what you are offering and have decided not to take up your offer of a free plug-in. I'm sure I won't miss out on anything significant.
But thanks again for asking.
Alan Bourke - I disagree
What's wrong with HTML 5. It's HTML, that's what wrong with it.
Alan - if you think that Silverlight is superior to HTML then you are certainly unqualified to discuss the merits of browser pugin technologies.
If you have poor moral standards and think that supporting monopolies is OK then carry on blowing your trumpet for the OS agenda inspired Silverlight.
Personally, I will carry on creating professional web applications which work on EVERY web browser and every platform.
Also, your claim that Linux developers slag Silverlight off without understanding the technology is completely false. I understand the technology perfectly well and I can see that there are some merits to the architecture when compared to some areas of Flash. However, Adobe have at least made a stable 32bit and 64bit plugin for Linux.
Whether you like it or not, Linux has a big future and it is completely irresponsible to develop web sites or applications that are unlikely to function on it. A big part of web development is accessibility - if the site will never work for 1% of operating systems then you are making the site in-accessible for those users.
SEG - standards compliant sites are on the rise fool!
SEG - drawing an analogy between web standards and world peace is retarded.
We already have a web where pretty much every web page will work perfectly on any operating system and web browser (besides those old activeX infected sites that professional web developers mock regularly). This is because the W3C do a fantastic job of developing and standardising the technologies that make the web work.
So what you are really saying is that its OK to take a perfectly good model for the WWW and shaft it by introducing OS vendor lock-in technologies.
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