Police headcams burst into flames
Elmer Phud
Title? #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 13:37 GMT
Cop-Cam Conflagration Conundrum Confirmed.
This would be far better viewing than the cop-cam stuff on telly where they set up a heavy-duty 'raid on a drug dealer' and get a couple of spliffs and a needle.
Jon Wilson
Proper classic British understatement #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 13:43 GMT

"But a couple of them have caught fire, which isn't ideal."
TempestX3
Hot Fuzz! #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 14:15 GMT

That is all.
...right arm in first please, I get confused otherwise.
john loader
It's selective #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 14:15 GMT
They only burst into flames when the wearer is hitting a demonstrator
Anonymous Coward
(untitled) #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 14:15 GMT

It's down to all these hot-headed coppers they take on these days.
Georgees
Hmmm. #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 14:15 GMT
How very battle royale of the government.
Martin Lyne
Are we sure #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 14:15 GMT
Are we sure they didn't just set them aflame to destory evidence gathering equipment before doing something "naughty".
The TV Show Idael's cop for instance. Or battering a protester or something.
Christoph
Good excuse #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:16 GMT

So where is your cop-cam record of what happened when this innocent passer-by dropped dead a few minutes after you 'gently nudged' him?
Oops, sorry your honour, my camera mysteriously went on fire.
So what about the video taken by the witness?
Yes your honour, we nicked him straight away for the crime of filming the police, and destroyed the illegal video.
Anonymous Coward
Really! #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT

Whilst investigating anti government comments left on a website if suspect happens to receive a good kicking, then the cameras spontaneously leek petrol and burst into flames!
Carl 4
Surely.... #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT

Someone's going to get fired for this?
I'll get mine
Anonymous Coward
Is that .... #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT

a case of assault and battery (groan)
RainForestGuppy
A policeman's lot is not a happy one #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT

Do the camera's have selective "Fallen down the stairs filtering technology" TM (Pat Pending)
Smarty Pants
title #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT

shouldnt this be in ROTM? also when are the person location systems going to be issued to all - nothing to fear nothing to hide?
Dale 3
Tin #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT
Please could we all start gently encouraging people to stop using the now-greatly overused "does what it says on the tin" expression. It is old and tiresome. Besides, hardly anything comes in tins any more.
Chris C
In recent times #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT
"It would seem that even police headcam equipment isn't immune to the sort of heat issues which have bedevilled other items of modern technology in recent times."
The key phrase there is "in recent times". Is it just my poor memory, or has spontaneous combustion of batteries and power bricks only become a problem in the past few years? It's not like the devices are using more power than similar devices in the past, and it's not like we haven't been using the same technology in millions of devices for over a decade. So is there really a product or technology problem, or is it all down to defective workmanship and/or materials in an effort to cut cost?
Fab De Marco
Excellent! #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT

Another example of living in the fear that the technology supplied to civil servants was provided by the lowest bidder.
Wonder how effective them stab proof vests are?
Dan 10
operating safely while driving #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:18 GMT

Is this why I saw a copper driving while using a mobile the other day?!
Jelliphiish
FOI #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:25 GMT

Footage would be subject to availability under the FOI. much like being caught on MOD cameras when stood outside their establishments.. Mark Thomas i'm looking at you.. there's a new sport right there..
Anybody else thinking the police setup in Halting State is the next step from this? Testemony submitted by webcam and email pleas on plaintiff's behalf..
JohnG
Heat dissipation following CPU upgrade #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:25 GMT

The helmets obviously couldn't take such a substantial increase in processing power with the video units installed.
Fogcat
Hotheads #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:25 GMT

Playmobil... or it didn't happen
kevin biswas
'Ring Of Fire' #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:25 GMT

I hope for the sake of a certain small segment of the perviverse that the head-cam technology doesn't turn out to be a slightly modded derivative of the butt-cam.
Flames, of course :-)
Stephane Mabille
Excuses? #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:25 GMT

Sounds like the convenient first step for the "sorry we don't have any picture", after the Tube CCTV were not working, we lost the tape, there is no CCTV in the City and we were not there....
And we should seriously trust those guys to protect us... They lost my confidence a long time ago!
Yes it's probably a few rotten apples but if you hide them at the bottom of the basket after a while the whole thing just stinks!
Ralphe Neill
assault and battery (groan) #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:28 GMT

Put him in a dry cell!
Andrew Baines
Been a problem for a long time #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:56 GMT

Am I the only one old enough to remember using a milk tetra pak to keep a ZX80 cool enough?
Rod MacLean
RE: assault and battery (groan) #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:56 GMT
"Put him in a dry cell!"
Even then you'd eventually have to charge him.
Dex
Erm.... #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 16:02 GMT

.....Smokey bacon anyone?
Mines the one with the pack of Walkers in the pocket
Unexploded
fire! #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 20:24 GMT
"Owww, me head is on fire. This definitely isn't ideal."
ooFie
Well if you do come across a flaming bobby.. #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 20:24 GMT

Thats a policeman with his helmet on fire and not your gay friend robert in that speical way..
It is still an offence to knock his hat off, so you may as well point and laugh.
*\. BB is watching you, if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear, but plenty to laugh at.
Anonymous Coward
Feature not a bug #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 20:24 GMT
people just complain at the drop of a hat nowadays.
Stevie
Bah! #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 20:24 GMT
Clearly the headcam company is secretly hoping for a full-copper burnout so they may rebuild the remains as Roborozzer, cybernetic policing for the 21st century.
David 45
Flashers #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 00:07 GMT
It's the flashing blue lights on their helmets that drain power.........and.........ka-boom! One headless bobby.
Anonymous Coward
@Rod MacLean #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 00:13 GMT
Posting as AC for obvious reasons
Anonymous Coward
Re:assault & battery (groan). #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 00:13 GMT
CircleOfConfusion
cooooool #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 00:13 GMT

"Am I the only one old enough to remember using a milk tetra pak to keep a ZX80 cool enough?"
I went down the frozen pastry route....
Trokair 1
RE: assault and battery (groan) #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 07:01 GMT
Put him in a dry cell!"
"Even then you'd eventually have to charge him."
It's frivolous cases like this that drain taxpayer's money.
Doogs
RE: assault and battery (groan) #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 08:18 GMT
Should have used copper tops. Maybe it was a glitch in the Matrix...
Mr Larrington
There is here... #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 08:18 GMT

...an opportunity for a Michael Jackson joke but I'll stick with The Ruts' "Babylon's Burning" for now.
GrahamT
Plod Cam #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 09:04 GMT

If they had given iPods to the Christian element of the Old Bill instead of cameras, would they be the Plod Pod God Squad?
Anonymous Coward
re:operating safely while driving #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 09:49 GMT

My favourite was the copper pulled into the hard shoulder to answer a mobile, aren't hard shoulders for emergency use ?.
Also REALLY funny is the convertibles in the rain sticking there hazards on and slamming into the hard should to put there roofs up.
And while i'm having a moan, all the fooking idiots driving with one hand and flicking fag ash out of the window, knobs, use your ash tray and pollute your own fricking car.
Fred 1
Apologies to Arthur Brown #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 10:02 GMT
I am the plod of hellfire, and I bring you FIRE, I want you to burn
Nathan Hobbs
Nokia E71 #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 11:12 GMT

Of course, my nokia E71 has Push to talk and googles GPS tracking system which means if I want to I can set it so people can look and see where I am at any given time. And it has a camera which can be set to stream video to the net or net based storage.
Rather than blowing £50 millionon new radios, why not buy 1000 off-the-shelf Nokia E71s? I'm pretty sure most networks would throw them in for free if the met signed a 12 month contract! They'de probably give each copper 2 in case one gets broken.
Then they'de have GPS tracking and live video feeds sent direct to HQ.
Can I have my consultancy fee now please.
Anonymous Coward
re: Nokia E7 #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 11:58 GMT

Cor they could stick em in a holder in wooden tops helmets, knock a coppers hat off and get a free E71
Tom Chiverton 1
" plod-cams to provide an unarguable record " #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 11:58 GMT

I can only assume it's unarguable only because no one has tried yet - is it not the case that the officer can start/stop the recording at any point, and the the video is stored un-checksumed in the clear on a memory stick, with a forgeable date/time stamp ?
Grease Monkey
Solo Patrolling? #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 14:50 GMT
"Smyth also said that technology wasn't always helpful in the matter of solo patrolling. He said that police vehicles now have so much gear in them that it's "just not possible" for a single officer to handle it all and drive safely at the same time."
Surely solo patrolling is such a bad idea that not being able to operate all the equipment is the least of the problems with it.
Enigma9
Exploding Bobby #
Posted Saturday 11th July 2009 21:57 GMT
Hahaha, it's against regulation to be smoking on duty!
not'known@this.address
Field of view? #
Posted Monday 13th July 2009 09:16 GMT

Is it just me, or do the shoulder-mounted camera sseem to be pointing the wrong way for most of the time? The film I've seen from the vest cams seems to end up facing about five feet to the left of whatever or whoever is in front of the occifer involved...
Still, at least this would allow ITV to cut their budget but still produce The Bill - they could do away with the camera crews and sound techs and just use BobbyCam instead!