Open an API #
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
They should just disable the functionality, and allow for end user installed modules. Publish and API for said modules and let the community write whatever modules are in demand.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
License the TiVo technology. Then offer an upgrade to a =real= TiVo.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
They should just disable the functionality, and allow for end user installed modules. Publish and API for said modules and let the community write whatever modules are in demand.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
Valid patent or not the fact is a bunch of people are going to get screwed because somebody had better lawyers than the other person. This is so lame. I thought patents required you to RAND off your IP (sell to anyone at a fair price) if someone wanted to use it? This should be required or else it is nothing but an unstable landrush that long term will harm society and our technology.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
"EchoStar originally lost a 2004 patent infringement lawsuit that accused the company of improperly using Tivo's DVR technology that lets users record live television while simultaneously watching another program."
I was recording live TV while watching another channel nearly a third of a century ago.
I don't generally watch TV anymore, so maybe I'm missing something ...
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
Great article! Just one thing. I think your last paragraph is a bit off. They were given a temporary stay of the court order which stipulated the dvr functionality had to be shut off in 30 days. The stay could last only days, or it could last months depending on which direction the appeals court decides to take.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
Someone's getting the sack for that one. Or depending on how they run the company, something more....permanent.
On a side note, can't wait to get Tivo* here in NZ at the end of the year. Yup, hooks up to Freeview and their HD broadcasts. Nice.
* Official stuff - none of this personally imported and hacked freetard nonsense.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
...they could just license the patents.
But I guess that's too obvious.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
Both cruel on echostar and it's customers.
why don't they just settle for a license fee?
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
They could just licence the patent like they should have done in the first place???
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
The consumer.
Thanks Patents once again.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
they will have 4 million angry customers demanding their money back because the set top bax has been knackered.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 10:34 GMT
With PC TV cards having been around for a long time there must have been someone out there who did this before TIVO using their PC.
Either way the US patent system is laughable.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 12:06 GMT
If they are unable to solve the problem without infringing the patent then either the patent is overbroad or obvious. If a problem can only be solved one way then that solution is obvious no matter how complex or convoluted it may be.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 13:10 GMT
Are Tivo happy to screw over 4 million people and reduce the functionality in their boxes by insisting on a retrospective downgrade due to copyright? Yeah, thanks for that guys, very nice.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 14:16 GMT
but only because echostar has screwed over soooo many subscribers with their bait & switch offers and other typical cable company like behavior. It I could put a stick in their eye, I would do it.
On the gripping hand, I am sure there is plenty of prior art out there that involves watch one and record the other, but it probably comes down to the recording and storage protocols used, that are likely unique to TIVO, and not easily reproduced. They need to get an engineer with absolutely no prior involvement with either product to design the work around. And if the problem is unique to the hardware, I see recalls and customer demands for free replacements in the future.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 17:45 GMT
To ASDF, I'm sure TiVo has tried to have Dish Network lease the technology that change TV viewing forever. If not how did other cable providers get the technology and the famous logo on thier sets. Wake up a crook is still a crook even when they hide behind a dish a dish a dish. sounds like an echo to me.
Posted Thursday 18th June 2009 22:06 GMT
They've had ages to do a licensing agreement with Tivo, like DirecTv. The cost would certainly not be prohibitive, a few bucks per box and/or the right for Tivo to make boxes for Dish. Dish decided to gamble and lost, now pay up.
Posted Wednesday 24th June 2009 07:36 GMT
Anyone who owns a TUTV box has already been through similar experience. TUTV were forced to issue a firmware update which disabled owners from being able to select "Favourite" channels. In this case TUTV made it quite clear that whilst owners owned the hardware they only licensed the software and that they were fre to make changes. It was covered in the EUL.
There is no reason for TIVO to grant a licence to any company. I work in the lighting industry and many products get patents to prevent their competitors from making interchangeable parts.