should be suspended

... so she's a wanker for posting that stuff. But yeah, year eight students are a pain in the arse...

...doesn't "bad" mean "good" in down-wiv-da-kidz-lol-speek these days?

What the hell?? She didn't do anything wrong, nor did she even mention the school. Whereas now everyone knows which school she means...

Dumbasses.

I remember 8f, man we were a vile class and only got worse as the years went on, two teachers left becouse of our class.

"You can't call them bad, they're challanging" or some such shizz, well my class was down right evil, but we weren't an oddity in my school - if you didn't want to follow the rules the school couldn't do anything about you.

Teachers on the other hand were easily got rid of.

My little brothers year was worse, and I bet todays batch are worse still, challanging authority and being a toe rag is part of being a teenager, problem is, authority is pretty crap nowdays when you're a teen and you can push a hell of a long way to the point where you find that infact the teenagers are the ones with the power if they have a mind set that suits the current climate. (Say the teacher said something sexual to you and even if it is chucked out it'll go on their permenant rumour check.)

oh well, glad I'm no teacher.

Isnt this the sort of thing people would normally say in a conversation? You know, those things you do between going on facebook?

I am concerned as to how someone "discovered" this information though.

Firstly, what people do and say in their own time is their business, IMHO, unless they are a public figure.

What she said may have been made 'public', but I deride my employer in the local boozer after a few beers, loud enough for people to overhear, and I do not think this should reflect on my employment status.

Secondly, as "Waggers" pointed out, "just as bad" doesn't mean they are bad, and she didnt name the school, hence it should not have brought the school into disrepute.

And last of all, in starting these procedings, they have brought it into the public eye which HAS brought the school into disrepute.

EEJITS!!

School Governor is one of those jobs that wanting to do it should immediately and irrevocably disqualify an applicant from ever being appointed as one.

That is just what I was about to say. All she said is that the two classes are equal. Although, re-reading it it does say that a teacher said something(?) bad about a class - and the cover support worker likened the second class to the first - so by inference, she did say something bad about the class. Still, hardly a sackable offence.

The best bit, IMHO is that she is being accused of "potentially bringing the school into disrepute" - when clearly the only people bringing the school into disrepute are those who suspended her - thus turning this into a newsworthy* event.

*debatable

If you think 8g2 and 8g1 are bad you should see 8g3. Now they're a bunch of right little cunts.

but it seems to me that if there was any "potentially bringing the school into disrepute" that was accomplished by a school that has ability to discipline it's students and not someone making mention of it outside of the school grounds.

Furthermore, I might have been willing to allow how as I'm not a Brit, perhaps to someone more familiar with the area, the comment was sufficiently revealing to provide specific information, but from some of the responses posted here, I take that being across the pond is not the cause of my inability to specifically identify the school.

Who would want all the trouble of having anything to do with children anymore? Especially teaching, years of training that can go down the toilet for any one of a number of stupid reasons.

If this keeps up, in ten years time, the masses will be completely uneducated due to no-one being prepared to actually teach them. Try offshoring teaching to India!!

clearly she is highlighting the successful implementation of comprehensive education principles whereby 8g1 are just as bad as 8g2 instead of an elitist system where pupils would have been setted so that 8g1 where less bad than 8g2.

Actually, her main "sin" is using the word "bad" ... schools don't want to make negative comments any more ... we got a missive from the English dept at my sons secondary school last term explaining how they would only ever correct at most 5 mistakes in any work handed in to avoid making pupils feel they were failing!

Then stop. Cuts down on marking time. And teaching time.

"Try offshoring teaching to India!!"

Uhhh, well, actually, funny you mention that......

I've run tech for an academic study on exactly that. Mind you this was at the undergraduate level, so behavior problems aren't an issue. It was only marginally less effective than the standard university practice of having classes taught by LOCAL Indians with unintelligible accents, and was actually cheaper (even taking into account equipment costs and bandwidth)

for truly institutionalising the small-minded, nasty, politically correct, nanny-knows-best attitude up and down the public services.

And you think you're getting routed because of the M.P.'s expenses fiasco?

Show the value of not using your real name on the internets

Boris the Cockroach

Do you have anything useful to say? Or does it get you hard pretending to be smart by pointing out others failings?

Anon would like to know.

This proves it! 'They' (whoever 'they' are- e.g. anybody!) are keeping tabs on us. A good reason to ALWAYS have your profile set to anon. My mother is a teacher and certainly lets rip when she's had a bad day. What happened in this case is pathetic and justifies the paranoia about the 'surveillance' state (though it maybe someone with a petty axe to grind). Pupils setting up a hate website defaming a teacher is on quite a different magnitude. It leaves me wondering whether this incident was just an excuse to get rid of a member of staff. It's like when staff are suspended or fired for distributing improper e-mails. Is it genuine concern or just an excuse to sack people without redundancy?

"If my kids where on that school"...

Read http://www.humberston-school.co.uk/report.pdf

This is one of those fucked up schools that can't retain staff and score [poorly in the whole school's evaluation.

If your kid goes to this school you don't care about them and couldn't be arsed to make a complaint etc.

All senior staff at said school will now undertake a course, so that the may learn the meaning of the 'Streisand Effect'.

I live in the area. The kids in Humberston are just as bad as the kids in Grimsby or Cleethorpes. They're all gobshites.

Fact is tho, she hasnt done anything wrong. I work in education and Ive made it very clear to my employers that they've got no say in my life outside of work hours. I hope she fights this one.

Yup, a read of that inspection report (http://www.humberston-school.co.uk/report.pdf) paints a woeful picture.

On the other hand, the BBC profile of the school (http://bit.ly/humberston) shows that the school is above both the LA and national averages on most measures. In fact "ranked on the proportion of pupils achieving the Level 2 threshold - equivalent to five GCSEs at grades A* to C including English and maths GCSEs."... they're 3rd out of 12 in their local area.

On the face of it, the "problem" with the institution would seem to be with their "value added" score. Make of that what you will.

Anyway, on re-reading the facebook screengrab, ("lol" usage aside - my 50+ year old mum types it liberally, FFS) the tone of the conversation comes across as slightly melancholic. There's even an element of remorse in there - something that numerous governmental officials could learn from.

->"[Mrs M] would like to start this week all over again and make less of a hash of it this time lol :)"

Friend ->good luck :) hope you have a good restful weekend :)"

Mrs M ->"well i have messed up in a big way, so i think i need to distract myself with something a bit more fun :)"

Mrs M ->"and by the way 8g1 are just as good as 8g2, and that's how i finished my day today lol"

"restful", "messed up", "less of a hash" and "a bit more fun" are used. Hardly a tirade of hate-filled spleen venting towards a specific person, eh? No way near a sacking offence. Not even close to requiring a formal warning. It barely even warrants a raised eyebrow.

"Mrs M, who worked as a cover supervisor" has probably neglected to set her profile to private. If so: lesson learnt.

As for the school - whoever is wasting their time with the administration of this suspension is doing a disservice to the school in general and should concentrate on any one of the more serious problems that Humberston Comprehensive School would appear to be facing. The school needs all the staff it can get by the sounds of things.

"either that she's an idiot and she left it open to public viewing"

It seems to be a comment left by her on her colleague's status update, so if anything it would be her colleague's privacy settings which are to blame.

We have citizens tattling on each other and the state encourages this. Confidential hotlines for just about everything. There is a hotline to report benefit fraud, you can get a criminal record for this, but if you are high enough up then you get let off with losing your job.

It's divide and conqure.