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Posted Friday 5th June 2009 11:51 GMT
"Now I'm off [sic] the land of the fairies"
Well, sounds like that's where you came from...
On topic, are these critical holes in IE8? Already?
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 10:42 GMT
..it's perfect, honest. No fault found...There said it...
Now I'm off the the land of the fairies...
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 11:51 GMT
After their shenanigans with Firefox, I don't need no steenkin' updates.
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 11:51 GMT
"Now I'm off [sic] the land of the fairies"
Well, sounds like that's where you came from...
On topic, are these critical holes in IE8? Already?
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 11:51 GMT
Has anyone said that yet? No.
Does anyone think that? Probably not (I've got a list of updates pending for my linux box, some of them security flaws)
Honestly, some people!
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 12:02 GMT
As my XP system accumulates patches and service packs, it gets slower and slower. The same thing happened before with 2000. This is the M$ strategy to force users to the next OS.
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 13:34 GMT
Sounds about par for the course, I wouldnt be surprised if they are deliberatly engineered to slow down a system.
That & a good old sprinkling of FUD about security & so on, then sit back and wait for the tills to start ringing up sales of Vista SP2,
oops, I mean Windows 7
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 14:42 GMT
"tills to start ringing up sales of Vista SP2,
oops, I mean Windows 7"
I think you will find that will be Vista SP3 ;)
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 14:52 GMT
I think you can put money on that!
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 15:53 GMT
See the joke icon, you know the one for idiots that can't spot a joke....
Sigh...
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 21:52 GMT
Linux is perfect in not being a target. Doesn't matter if there is a flaw or three when nobody is trying to exploit it.
Posted Friday 5th June 2009 21:52 GMT
With the recent SP2 for Windows Server 2008, Microsoft helpfully told me during the end of the patching that it wasn't able to complete and it would then un-install the patches (rebooting yet again).
Silly me had dual boot with Solaris and it was the active partition - once I made Microshaft active it was happy to install, then straight back to good old unix ;-)
Posted Saturday 6th June 2009 00:04 GMT
I'd love to know causes your machines to get slower over time, because I've never seen it happen with any systems I'm responsible for; not with Win2k, XP nor even Vista.
I'm not saying it's not happening, because clearly some of you do see it, but I am curious to know what's going on.
As for those of you who aren't patching, I can guess why your machines might be getting slower. Virus/worm infections. Seriously, install those patches. Some of those patches also cover performance issues.
Posted Monday 8th June 2009 06:31 GMT
Well, it's a curious little thing. That windows slows down towards the end of it's lifespan is verifiable. GO run an RTM Win2000 or WinXP on a machine, throw the benches at it, and re-run after fully patching. Depending on the age of the hardware, (low RAM, and small hard drive) you will definitely see that more fully patched systems are slower.
There are a few reasons that I can think of. Firstly, on systems that are older, (I still maintain a fleet of P-IIIs with 20GB HDDs,) a fully patched Windows is much larger than an RTM version. This pushes your app installs and data to the end of the drive, where everything seems to be quite a bit slower.
Also, it seems that a fully patched system has a slightly larger RAM footprint...and certain components behave quite differently when loaded. (Windows Explorer enumerating 100,000+ files, for example.)
IE got bigger, fatter, and less responsive under a great many "normal" loading scenarios. Etc. etc. The list could of course go on.
While I doubt that there is any great conspiracy to "slow down" Windows in an effort to sell the next generation, feature creep, patches, and even the sheer size of the OS can make a difference in speed, most especially on older systems.
Is the windows bloat noticeable on a system with a 500GB HDD and 4GB of RAM? Not so much, really. The speed differential between RTM and Fully patched XP is probably less than a rounding error. On a 10 year old system? That's another story.
There will always be those people who jump up and down and claim that if you don't have the fastest, the newest and the greatest hardware and software, you have no right to complain. That's their privilege, but not everyone has the resources for that. Many a small business or not as well off family has to "make do" with a system that is five or ten years old.
In any case, that is what I see as regards the speed of "aged" Microsoft OSes. Hope that helps some!
Posted Monday 8th June 2009 09:10 GMT
Big patch, huh? I wonder how many of THESE will tamper with non-Microsoft programs on my computer, like the recent firefox disgrace?
Or that 'malicious software remover' that quietly deletes legally purchased and installed non-MS software (happened to me twice now)
No thanks. Patches are now turned off.
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