RE: Re: Please, no more obituaries just yet!
"..... Wow, your plans must be 4 years behind as Tukwilla is about the most "late" processor in history....." Nope, I hear there are still some Sunshiners that don't remember something called UltraSPARC V. And Rock is later than Tukwila anyway.
".... At least HP can put X64 cores into those overpriced HP boxen...." Hp doesn't need to, they have the most popular x64 range of servers. They have had for something like 12 consecutive quarters. Lets not mention the tiny and dying Sun x64 bizz, it would only upset you lot.
".....Of course, that leaves you out of luck with HPUX. Lucky that HP OEM's Solaris!!!..." Well, someone has to offer to save those mugs that bought Slowaris on SPARC. And that means more money for hp, not Soreacle.
"....Larry must have known something, huh." That would be Larry that didn't want the Sun hardware bizz, and still hasn't commited to a roadmap for ANY Sun product? Yeah, Larry knows exactly which Sun products are going to survive, it's just the poor saps like you that bought the Sunshine that have yet to realise it ain't going to be much.
What you forget is that as well as hp-ux, hp offer full solutions for OpenVMS, Linux and Windows. A tad wider and more portable than AIX or Linux on Power, or just several incompatible flavours of Slowaris on different SPARC or x64. So much for vendr lock-in.
".....HP is loosing big chunks of market share since Itanium was released....." Oh dear, another Sunshiner with reality issues. Please go read Gartner or IDC marketshare figures before you embarass yourself further. Last year Itanium was the ONLY enterprise CPU to grow whilst Power stayed flat and SPARC declined (again). Check out the high-end enterprise (yes, I'll say it again, the high end where all the lucrative services and support pull-through occurs) and you'll see Integrity is gaining in marketshare at the expense of i/pSeries and especially at the expense of Sun SPARC.
"....poor virtualization scaling to just 4 CPU's..." You really are a special kind of stupid Sunshiner, aren't you? Please go read up on the hp Partitioning Continuum, they have offered hardware (cell-based) and software (resource-, SLA- or percentage-based) partitioning for years before Sun copied Xen to get zones/containers. And that Integrity partitioning includes for multiple OSs (hp-ux, OpenVMS, Windows and Linux), whereas Sun can't even provide the same level of partitioning in just Slowaris! Do yourself a favour and at least try and read up on your competition before you post anything quite as ignorant again.
".....Customers don't buy Itanium box, nor HP-UX crap for a long time...At least in our planet!...." Looking at the Gartner and IDC figures I'll have to surmise that you are posting from Mars and that you have ignored the advice to use a helmet and are breathing the oxygen-lacking Martian atmosphere. With any luck that should hopefully mean no repeat posts!
RE: "the pressure is off the Itanium team"
You don't understand Intel's strategy. Intel are very focused on their competition. Xeon has no competition for funds in Intel, it is the undisputed money machine. Itanium is a bonus which also allows a two-pronged startegy. Xeon has always been the attack vector against RISC from below, whilst Itanium has been that attack from above. Combining technologies like CSI and DDR3 make Itanium cheaper for Intel to develop than Power is for IBM or ... oh, hold on, there isn't going to be any more SPARC development! Anyway, it's that two-pronged attack that killed Sun's SPARC business - Sun couldn't make SPARC compete downwards against Xeon, and couldn't get it to perform for even close to the same price as Itanium in the high-end. With SPARC dead, Intel now only have to continue applying the same strategy to Power. As long as Itanium keeps Power focused on the high-end, IBM is forced to accept Xeon, but if Itanium went then IBM could back off on Power development and also look at a Power-Lite or Cell variant to take on Xeon.
Where this dealy is bad news for hp (not Intel) is that a lot of customers will do what we will probably do - insist hp gives us clauses in new purchases so that we get a generous buy-back if we take more of the current Integrity boxes now rather than waiting for the new ones. Hp will want the server sales. A few years back when we wanted dual-core Itaniums and Intel delayed them, hp gave us the mx2 dual-CPU modules at "two-for-one" price becasue we kicked up a fuss. I'm practicing my stroppy face now! ;)
/I hear pink is the new Slowaris colour - as in pink slips!