...someone actually sat down (just one person mind) worked this out and then thought 'Well, that sounds like a reasonable alternative!' and then expected everyone to be OK with it!

Steve Jobs, because he would have charged double, had old buses painted glossy white and would have filled every seat with fanbois all going on Apples 'journey'.

Will it arrive on time :)

This line is down *EVERY* weekend. Without fail. Apparently due to the line being built on a bank and it keeps on sliding down, they have to nudge it back up every 7 days.

Kettering has it good compared to these towns. At least it's just one weekend.

London Kings Cross to Thurso is a solid thirteen hours [mainly taken up by a good few hours beyond Inverness] which seems positively lightning fast compared to this!

Steven "previously of John O Groats" Raith

The 295 miles refers to the round trip - Kettering to London is around 80 miles, which seems do-able in an hour-ish...

I don't even live in Kettering or London but at least I know how to use Google Maps...

Helicopter coz it'd be a lot quicker to get anywhere in it.

Sorry to be boring but, the normal direct journey is 67 miles.

To answer your question, the first 1 hourish services are:

dep Kettering 05:01 arr London St. Pancras 06:21

dep Kettering 05:51 arr London St. Pancras 06:54

It's 295 miles via the considerably long and winding route proposed by the rail operator. Look, it goes via Crewe.

The usual journey to London from Kettering takes about an hour by train.

So wind your neck in.

"Apparently due to the line being built on a bank and it keeps on sliding down, they have to nudge it back up every 7 days."

I'm tired of the government propping up collapsing banks!

I used to have to catch the trains (sounds appropriately like a disease) every weekend commuting between Huddersfield and Grantham.

Considering that the Primary backbone of this journey consisted of the GNER from Leeds to Grantham, it was still slower, more unreliable, AND MORE EXPENSIVE than doing the same journey by car.

Well done Mr. Beeching.

If I ever have to catch a train again in my life it will be too soon.

The buses are no better. How can they possibly justify the extortionate prices? For my current work commute, it costs £3.60 return on the bus (plus the added benefit of a 1000 yard walk in all weather conditions). It costs me just under £2.50 in petrol to the front door (and that's with the oil companies not putting their prices down to reflect the drop in costs for them). The savings over a year cover my road tax, MOT, maintenance and still leave me in pocket!

I had to get a car because my job was at risk from my poor punctuality caused by consistently inconsistant buses/trains.

Prices for travelling on "public transport" (there's no public in it, now that it's entirely privatised) have been spiralling upwards persistantly over the inflation levels.

The railways were nationalised precisely because they were in this appalling state.

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Why does this not actually surprise me.... Maybe its after I worked out that the normal East Midlands Train fares were more expensive than driving to London, paying the conjestion charge and somewhere to park.

Luckily I got the cheaper tickets after a small fight with their website. Plus when you go the price changes. I took a 'CalTrain' train last year while in San Francisco (to San Jose). The price was good and stayed the same the entire day (and they have overcrowding issues there too).

Anyone think the railways should have never been nationalised in 1947 by a Labour government - I certainly do, we had a world class network then. Not anymore.....

No, Wellingborough to London takes 1 hour minimum - if you're lucky.

It used to take 50 minutes, but that was back in those days before privatisation, when you didn't have to auction your right arm and right leg to get a single ticket, and the trains weren't electric shopping trolleys, but yer proper big beastie InterCity 125s.

That's standard stuff. I used to travel on the train a lot and used to use TheTrainLine.com and the National Rail Enquiries web sites. It would often come up with things like this when traveling. If you try and get the details for say, a train from Exeter to Torre Station in Torquay (a small little station) and specify a time after the last train that stops at Torre then it would possibly suggest changing trains at Newton Abbot and having a 8 hour stop over until the next train arrives.

Mines the one with the wrong type of snow in the pocket.

Rob

Is only one stop. You could walk it in that...

I would be tempted to stay in Kettering. Is Kettering nicer than London? It sounds like one of those quasi-mythical towns, like Keynsham and Dulwich, that would have been the subject of a song by the Bonzo Dog Band. I picture a government film from the 1950s, extolling the virtues of romantic Kettering, Frontier of Tomorrow.

Kettering also sounds like a sordid Japanese sexual practice. A first class ticket from Marrakesh to Casablanca costs about twelve pounds and takes three hours, and that's going slowly.

You're joking right?

You don't think their website maybe, just maybe, has a database behind it (that of course returns whats it's asked for with no concept of what may or may not be reasonable)...?

...And a dig at Apple as well, wow, comedy gold...

>No, Wellingborough to London takes 1 hour minimum - if you're lucky.

It's a bit under that now, but it's definitely slower than it was when I started commuting - it used to be 46 minutes, and usually arriving 5 minutes early, but with 1 or 2 trains a week suffering significant delays because of the wrong type of cow eating a junction box at an unknown location in Somerset...

Nowadays, we get slower, less frequent and more overcrowded trains, because EMT have cut services previously run relatively well by Midland mainline (never thought I'd be praising them!), but the excuses are a little more informative.

Sounds to me like they're trying to blame their re-routing software for this 245 mile diversion, which isn't really fair, because it was never designed to handle the sort of wholesale mess EMT is making of "running" the railway.

I didn't get where I am today by having a box set of "Reginald (not Reggie) Perrin" in my coat pocket.

"Kettering also sounds like a sordid Japanese sexual practice".

I really do need a new keyboard now. As well as a replacement machine-vended orange drink.

That means walking back to Euston Square and getting the sub-surface line (not the tube) one stop to King's Cross St. Pancras. You can walk from Euston to St. Pancras in five minutes.

"Kettering, Frontier of Tomorrow"

Well, actually, yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Perry

I'm one of those people who actually like travelling by train - no hasstle, reading a book, listening to music and eating nice cake. Of course this refers to off-peak leisure travel not a commute which is often nasty (thanks John Major and all the right wingers who followed the great grey railway smasher). Every so often someone comes up with one of these trips and I wonder if you could actually do it ?

Imagine the face of the ticket collector when you point out that this IS the approved route !

73 miles. Even in my current state of unfitness I reckon I could cycle that in about six hours.