Never mind the birth sceen, how about the conception scene!

Well what would expect from a team of P'tach editors.

Mines the one with the bat'leth in the pocket

One of the things that used to make me cringe about Star Trek was people speaking Klingon. I don't mind the occasional word or phrase such as the shot of a captain shouting 'fire' in Klingon, but when I hear them actually speaking the language I the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I feel embarrased.

So reading this news has made it slightly more likely that I'll go and see it, though not for the first month of its release as I don't want to be sat in a crowd of nerds dressed as Vulcans and Klingons cheering at every scene.

Still, hunger and rabid attack dogs snapping at my flesh wouldn't make me sit through a minute of Star Wars. It's like Michael Jackson in space...

a language seemingly so complex that the universal translators, which effortlessly translate every other language in the known universe into english, just seem to give up when even the smallest hint of Klingon is uttered.

mines the furry one with the Bat'leth strapped to it

Without the playmobil version with Optimus in the lead role.

even paris knows you have to cut some scenes...

I think the scene should be put back and everyone has to speak Klingon through the entire film, making at least one reference to the series or previous films every minute, with Welsh subtitles.

I have absolutely no idea what ODFO means. See what I mean about nerds? They spout acronyms and funny terms (and the saddest nerds even talk Klingon in the real world) and then get cross when normal people don't understand their highly exclusive mutterings.

Like I said, hearing people speak Klingon in Star Trek is the fourth most cring-worthy thing I've ever sat through. The third is Doctor Who talking to the rhinos in actual rhino. The second is nerds outside of Star Trek (ie, the real world, my son) talking Klingon, and the top spot goes to Star Wars/Michael Jackson (which is basically the same thing). It makes my gums retract in utter shame just seeing it in the TV listings.

Cutting the Klingon gobbledygook isn't just about selling more DVDs, it's a win-win thing: By cutting it from the film they ensure more normal people go and see the film because the word-of-mouth of early cinema goers won't put others off. Let's face it, if nerds alone were enough to sustain Star Trek, it wouldn't have been cancelled (how much did they raise world-wide for a new series in the end? $3000 or sommat?) and the last film wouldn't have been the proverbial USS Turkey crashing into the planet Dirtbag after its dilithium crystal was all smoked up by some drug crazed nerd from Stains talking Klingon off his tits on goofballs and whackballs.

But by putting the spaceman mumbo-jumbo back in the Bluray wotsit, they ensure all the nerds leave the house (almost certainly for only the first time since going to watch the film at the cinema) and blow yet more money on it just to see 30 seconds of pointless footage that adds nothing to the narrative.

Ikh poff moh foff weee yang plaow ukki bop plang tich!

"a language seemingly so complex that the universal translators, which effortlessly translate every other language in the known universe into english, just seem to give up when even the smallest hint of Klingon is uttered."

Phew thought I was the only one who noticed that

The poster who said ODFO was being a bit rude. I mean, he could have said PFO, CYPFO, or even WYMFO.

Manners cost nothing. At least he didn't tell you to FOAD

Because from the picture the birth clearly involves tripe of some kind.

If you're that bothered on missing out on hearing a bit of Klingon, then head over to Liverpool. The native tongue is a bit higher-pitched but sounds similar enough!