After having snubbed Sun Microsystems last month, leaving it to be acquired by database and application software powerhouse Oracle for $5.6bn, IBM wants to do its best to make sure that the Sun that Oracle gets perhaps by summer is as weak as possible. And hence, it is ratcheting up the marketing pressure. Today, IBM announced …
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Get your facts right - Sun turned down the IBM offer.
IBM and hp are going to be falling over each other to offer discounts and "specials" now that Sun is a dodo. And we got rid of all our SPARC last year before all the really juicy offers came in. Darn!
Unless every customer is also willing to switch to DB2 just wait until Oracle ratchets up the license costs for Power OR just makes it go away for SPARC. It might be relatively easy to switch hardware, but switching databases can be next to impossible. IBM can do whatever it likes, if Oracle plays their cards right with Sun, IBM will be in a world of hurt.
softly, softly catchy monkey.......
this make for an interesting time for Oracle shops, switch to IBM and Oracle can turn the screws later, stay with Sun/Oracle kit and expose yourself to an uncertian future..... but if you ain't an Oracle shop and looking for quick gains in these crunchy credit times it's difficult not to ignore that IBM offer, but heh that's today Oracle are bound to counter....... en gaude !!!
that would be questionable legally
"just wait until Oracle ratchets up the license costs for Power"
Hmm considering that Oracle is nearly a trust in the database market wouldn't be questioned as anti-competive by some government in the world? Not that IBM has never pulled such tactics. I have worked extensively with Solaris and AIX kit and loved both (lol fun to play with big iron bought by other peoples money). Just a shame so many development jobs these days are in crappy winblows only shops.
TPM....please Sun turned down IBM's offer. IBM did not snub Sun but gave a fair offer for a company pleading to be bought before their dismal F3Q/C1Q results calls...err...powerpoint release.
How late is Regatta On a Chip Killer? (ROCK)
Tukwilla was supposed to be 2008 and in February of 2009 Intel finally admits its back to the drawing board to put in DDR3 support because Nehalem embarrasses Tukwila.
Please don't include Power6 in with ROCK and Tukwila.
Don't forget its $8K / core so in Sun's terms $16K / processor. An v490 4way (8core) system would be worth $64K even though you can do a "buy it now" on ebay for $18K.
Amazing how HP was falling over itself to get Slowaris (as you so quaintly put it) isn't it?
The deals are on now because HP and IBM realise that Oracle selling Sun hardware is going to be big!
RE: HP and IBM
IBM has no real Oracle relationship to preserve. HP on the other hand 100% relies on Oracle/Intel/Microsoft/RedHat to survive. HP is very scared. HP has nothing to counter IBM and Sun/Oracle. The gravy train of force migrating all of HP's old platforms to Itanium is ending and HP will actually have to start growing via real competition. If Oracle does this right, and I see no reason for them not to, then IBM and Oracle will be fighting it out ferociously for the next ten years and HP will stuck in the low end PC market screaming "but we're the second largest services company in the world!"
I bet Oracle buys a services company within the next five years. Interesting times...
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