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So much for playing hardball: IBM is apparently not interested in resuming talks to purchase Sun Microsystems, following their recent break down. IBM is believed to be concerned about the level of scrutiny a potential acquisition of its smaller hardware and software rival might would draw from regulators. CNBC has reported that …

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Hmmm. Unrequited Passion is a Pernicious Mate .

Seems like a Perfect Opportunity for a Proxy Pirate Purchase/Board Appointment if Bride and Groom have their Hearts and Minds set on a Big Happy Family ..... now that everyone knows it is Grumpy Old Aunts and Uncles who would Deny Union and Intercourse.

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T3

Just incase no one noticed but t3 has connections to Microsoft

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More 8th-hand rumours...

...masquerading as fact. Srsly, couldn't you at least look at this in light of the recent high profile grilling of Wall St loudmouth and "investment guru" Jim Cramer as seen on The Daily Show?

A salient excerpt, from the horse's mouth:

"...I would, ah, create a, um, a level of activity beforehand to drive the futures...it doesn't take much money...I would encourage anyone...to do it, because it's legal, and it, ah, it's a very quick way to make money, and very satisfying. By the way, no-one else in the world would ever admit that, but I don't really care...I'm [just] not going to say it on TV...

"Now, you can't foment, that's a violation of uh...you can't create yourself an impression that a stock's down...but you do it anyway because the SEC doesn't understand it...that's the only sense I'd say it's illegal...

"Yeah, Apple's very important to spread the rumour that, um, that, both Verizon and AT+T have decided they don't like the phone...it's a very easy one to do because also you want to spread the rumour that it's not going to be ready for Macworld...and this is very easy because the people who write about Apple want that story...and you can claim that its credible because you spoke to someone at Apple, and Apple is not going to comment..."

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Crazy Sun Execs

Please buy our company.

But don't run any of our projects.

Let us pretend we are sill Sun and not a part of IBM.

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Due Diligence = "wow Sun is a FCUKed up company"

No thank you

And you want $33M each for the loser CEO and the Joker chairman?

Your software does not make money let alone profit.

The only money to be made is in maintenance fees for hardware..that will make customers happy with the acquiring company

STK, MySQL....where did all the good people go?

You spend $3B on stock buy backs and the stock is in shambles?

Next layoff day all the people who get RIF'd should stand out front and way white flags

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Sunshine on a rainy day

I see you in the darkness

I see you in the light

I see your eyes shining

In through the night

Make me feel, make me feel

Like I belong

Don't leave me, you won't leave me here

All Alone

Cast your eyes

Like summer skies

BLUE earth and the ocean

Clearer than the skies, yeah!

Sunshine on a rainy day (sunshine)

Makes my soul, makes my soul drip, drip, drip away

Sunshine on a rainy day (sunshine)

Makes my soul, makes my soul drip, drip, drip away

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oh dear

haven't we been here before with Yahoo! and Microsoft? the under dog playing hard ball and the suitor saying "look - fuck the hell off would you, you greedy bastards, we said take it or leave it, not drag this out for eternity". I may have paraphrased.

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Baggage

Part of this may be due to all the legal baggage associated with Sun's software which dates back to AT&T Unix in the 1970s. (The licensing issues predate Sun's founding.)

While I think it would be a win for IBM to gain control of Java given their WebSphere and Tivoli products that are so heavily rooted in Java tech, perhaps they are waiting for someone else to take the bait, break up and spin off Sun's assets, and then move in to pick up the pieces they want.

IBM doesn't need to buy Sun to get a piece of the server market, they already support both HP and Sun servers. IBM will sell and support anything that makes a profit even if it's produced by a competitor.

What they choose to buy, however, is a bit more selective. Sometimes you don't have to buy the whole box of candy just to get the piece with the cherry. Somehow I rather suspect this may be the motive here, not fear of monopoly status which IBM very nearly already has if you look at their market share.

Putting on my coat because IBM seems to be putting on theirs.

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Silly IBM

The critiques will do nothing to hurt IBM if IBM were to go the extra mile & suck Sun into their atmos, basically removing all remnants of Sun. Why should they? They never did anything to hurt M$ when they were being sued for their monopolistic behaviour. They got away scot-free.

Move everything to Linux & open-source & you'll be fine as long as M$ doesn't tell.

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