Male chimps strike 'meat for sex' deals
Vladimir Plouzhnikov
Interesting... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 09:22 GMT
At least it's clear here - the females get more food. I was often wondering what evolutionary advantage our homo sapiens females get when they seem to prefer stuff like diamond rings and sapphire earrings...
The title of the article is a bit misleading - "male chimps strike meat for sex deals" - this sounds a bit like they strike these deals among themselves while the poor females end up with no sex and no meat.
Alfonso Vespucci
To coax with a piece of bread. #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 09:22 GMT
This reminds me of a poem a school friend of mine wrote. I can only remember the first 2 lines:
If I could coax a girlie into bed,
With nothing but a piece of bread....
Anonymous Coward
Plus ca change #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 09:22 GMT

Chimps with meat, or dinner at a fancy restaurants.. nature has it's rules it seems.
Paris as she like her meat too.
Anonymous Coward
Is that why... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 09:42 GMT

...fat lassies are classed as easy?
<Ducks to aviod flying shoes>
Anonymous Coward
What's new? #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 09:42 GMT

The principles are the same with humans. Meat has changed to credit card, but it's a similar concept!!
Rob
So what they are really saying is.... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:04 GMT

.... fat human girls are an easy lay if you have some cakes going spare.
al
piece of ass for a piece of ass. #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:04 GMT

hmm....
btw, is it alright to offer tofu to vegan chimps ?
Paris, coz likes biting meat during s*x
Anonymous Coward
Is that headline writer strike still on? #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:04 GMT
I am shocked, *shocked* that the opportunity for a "meat for meat" gag was passed up
Alfonso Vespucci
Brings a whole new perspective to.... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:04 GMT
"Raw Meat 3"
Pass the mind bleach.
Tom
Am I the only one.. #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:04 GMT
who read it as "Male chimps stroke meat for sex"
Jim Coleman
At last #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:05 GMT

Now we see prostitution in animals. Can we please now legalise it for humans, now that we know it's perfectly natural to pay for sex? Eh?
Sarah Bee
Re: this entire thread and all who sail in it #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:06 GMT

Jesus meat-exchanging Christ.
MnM
Bandwagon Alert! #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:28 GMT

This is good stuff, a bit unsurprising, but great to have it witnessed in the field. But what's going on with this further study nonsense?
'Dr Gomes suggested the findings might offer insights into human evolution. The team's report specifies: "Similar studies on humans will determine if the direct nutritional benefits that women receive from hunters in foraging societies could also be driving the relationship between reproductive success and good hunting skills."'
What??? Read Alfonso's lament, his school friend already knew the answer when he was at school! Work out more about how human the monkeys are please, not how monkeyish we are - I'm satisfied that we evolved FROM them, give or take a gorilla.
M
Inspired by this story #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:28 GMT

When I was in the pub yesterday, I found that 7/10 women rejected my offers of raw meat. One accepted then reneged on the deal. The other two were, well, chimp-like in their acceptance.
Still. Not an entirely unsuccessful strategy
Anonymous Coward
So the deal is still: #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:28 GMT

"First dinner then sex!" and after all these years evolution has done nothing for us!
Anonymous Coward
The World's Oldest Profession #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:34 GMT
They're catching up now, they'll be living alongside us in no time.
Sweep
I have the opposite problem #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 10:37 GMT
There's a monkey on my back and if i don't feed it, it fucks ME.
Oliver Smith
Sausauge Time #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 11:06 GMT

Mine's the one with the River Cottage Meat Book in the pocket.
JimC
@Coleman #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 11:06 GMT

That something occurs in the animal kingdom isn't necessarily a great argument for legalisation - unless of course you want cannibalism, incest, and eating the bloke over the road's offspring legalised too..
Richard
may I be the first.... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 12:12 GMT

to invite Ms Bee out for a steak....
;-)
D@v3
SURVIVAL OF THE err Fittest?? #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 12:12 GMT

that is all
Anonymous Coward
hmmm #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 12:12 GMT
> unless of course you want cannibalism, incest, and eating the bloke over the road's offspring legalised too..
---
oki - skip the incest part but if I could eat the kid in the flat upstairs from me I'd be quite a happy bunny ;)
Mycho
Dinner and flowers. #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 12:12 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Plus ca change indeed #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 12:15 GMT

"...sounds a bit like they strike these deals among themselves while the poor females end up with no sex and no meat."
The researchers didn't publish the bits about the pimp chimp striking the deal and getting the meat., and the female just getting the sex.
Sarah Bee
Re: may I be the first.... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 12:15 GMT

I see you have just outed yourself as a chimp. In which case I think I'll skip, thanks.
Graham Marsden
Home Office Press Release #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 12:59 GMT

Jacqui Smith today announced that the Government will be introducing new legislation to prosecute male chips who offer meat to female chimps without first ensuring that the female chimp is not under the control of another male chimp...
Anonymous Coward
(untitled) #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 13:48 GMT
Seems it's probably just normal practice to me. Those in a relationship or ten have good reason to work at them, so share what they get. The lonely and rejected souls get to keep what food and stuff they get, for themselves, having learnt that being generous can lead to just being taken advantage of.
al
Re: may I be the first.... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 13:48 GMT

> ... outed yourself as a chimp. In which case I think I'll skip, thanks.
make sure you do not pass a chimp for a gorilla. Chimps are most well endowed amongst the great apes (I am sure you've given up on humans by now).
@richard
btw, I've reasons to believe Ms.Bee prefers Bacon sandwiches.
Paris, coz she might eat a chimp.
David Wiernicki
@Sarah Bee #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 14:11 GMT
You know, complaining about crude comments on this article is like complaining that the hold of an oil tanker is slippery.
Tom
bullshit #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 14:43 GMT

What's to say that the chimps didn;t have a relationship previously which endeared a partnership which in turn encouraged the sharing of food? you know, like i do with my missis... utterly disgraced with the way scientific research is going these days.
1. think of ridiculous theory
2. find way of observing results to fit your theory
3. write paper of your findings leting everyone know just how much better you have made the world thanks to your awe inspiring jeeneyus
Anonymous Coward
How can I put this without appearing crude... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 15:31 GMT

Nah, not possible...
@tom - you had me laughing out loud...shame on me.
Anonymous Coward
RE: The World's Oldest Profession #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 19:15 GMT

"They're catching up now, they'll be living alongside us in no time."
Please credit them with *some* intelligence.
David Wiernicki
@Tom #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 19:15 GMT
1. read brief article about study
2. don't read the actual study
3. make ridiculous assumptions about methodology based on incomplete information, and insult authors on that basis
Gerhardt
Meet the meat #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 22:03 GMT

Key difference between chimpanzee and Man, is that Man has to cook the food first. I suspect this is the main reason that restauraunts have evolved.
Anonymous Coward
Male chimps strike 'meat for sex' deals #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 22:03 GMT

Apparently when a male chimp is rebuffed by a female, he will
take a chunk of meat an strike it against a tree or the ground
creating a grand display. Hence the term, 'beat your meat'.
Paris says, "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?".
Anonymous Coward
and nobody is wondering...... #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 22:03 GMT

WHY is this guy spending such a long time studying chimps having sex?
If he's stored video clips of this on his laptop, will he get done for illegal pornography???
"Yes officer. Its purely for research. Honest. Yes, all 1000 pictures and 50 videos of monkey sex. Want to see a monkey get his meat out for some cute little femail chimp?"
Paris, because she's definitely been filmed accepting a large portion of meat. Several times. Rather noisily.
Allan Dyer
More like marriage... #
Posted Thursday 9th April 2009 09:36 GMT

two individuals forming a longer-term partnership for the benefit of their offspring.
It was the earlier studies that were looking for prostitution.
Anonymous Coward
Huh? #
Posted Thursday 9th April 2009 09:36 GMT

The only difference between Marriage and Prostitution is the duration of the arrangement. Marriage always been about women swapping sex for financial security (ability to provide food for offspring)?
These days women can often provide for themselves (and their offspring), so we have started to see more women choosing to become single parents (simply because they can - I assume that because they no longer need a man to provide they no longer can be bothered putting out for guys they barely tolerate at the best of times).
Smiley face because thankfully my wife still needs me to provide financially.
DZ-Jay
Re: So what they are really saying is... #
Posted Thursday 9th April 2009 14:17 GMT
No,
>> "...could also be driving the relationship between reproductive success and good hunting skills."
What they are really saying is: the more sex you have, the better you hunt. Practice makes perfect.
I wonder if this is translated to modern vocations, say, software development.
-dZ.