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Virtual machines are not as virtual as you might think. It's a bit tricky to move a running virtual machine across different processor generations, and you can forget jumping from a Xeon to an Opteron server - or visa versa. Considering that Intel's Xeon and Advanced Micro Devices' Opteron chips have their respective VT and AMD- …

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all a bit too 'big iron'

"...but common formats and live migration across all platforms is something customers want"

Common formats probably, live migration - no. Not unless you can tell me why it's going to help me, where 'me' any of the innumerable small businesses of the world with small budgets.

And before they get too clever, did VMWare cure that disk corruption bug that apparently occurred with heavy disk activity on sata VMWare server when running on windows (<http://communities.vmware.com/message/967522>)? Cos I think that' would concern me more.

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Alien

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Tim,

The nub of the matter, and that was an an excellent VM article laying bare the present State of the Art position of both Intel and AMD, lies in the last sentence .... "There may be very sound marketing reasons not to do this, but it will be hard to argue that it is not technically possible. ®" .... although the very sound marketing reasons not to do this [common formats and live migration across all platforms] are not very sound at all, whenever the whole Virtual Machine Migration Flight Environment, and you can relate that to being as a Virtual Parallel to Mirror/MemIQ the the whole Human Flight Industry and Support Infrastructure, from the humblest kite, through Civil and Military Aviation and into Space and Alien Planet Exploration and Colonisation Plans with all of their Attendant and CoInterDependent and CoInterIndependent Services and Infrastructures, are there just for the Taking and Making.

And if Intel and AMD are not ready, willing and able to Make and Take that Market as their Own, it can only be because they do not possess the Intellectual Property/Know How at the Human Programmer Level, to do it. And means that it is a Virgin Market Place with no Viable Competition for those that can Host Virtual Machine Flight Migration Infrastructure and AIR&dD Traffic Control.......... and that will render to them the Power of Information Sharing to Control the Development of Planet Earth and Advanced CyberIntelAIgent Machines ........ Virile Global Operating Devices.

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And in High Roller Stud Poker, does only a Fool play a Bluff which is easily Called. amfM covers the Pot and bets the Casino.

And would anyone here on El Reg, and there are precious few dummies who share their views here, care to Imagine what is being Played for here, in all of the above. Don't be Coy, now, you are allowed to be Imaginative of Thought and Free of Printed Speech.

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Coat

No more Admins Needed

Now that we can duplicate and migrate VMs live no one need know how to actually install an OS in the first place.

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Jobs Horns

Can they do it! Yes, they can! (its just not a good idea)

"it is still not possible to migrate a VM from an Opteron server to a Xeon"

Actually, its AMD & Citrix did a couple of months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuhU6jJjpAQ

However, just because something is possible doesn't mean its wise to do it.

http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid94_gci1339374,00.html#

I do wish the Register would desist in the use of the term "fake" servers. It's just a bit silly...

Mike Laverick

RTFM Education

http://www.rtfm-ed.co.uk

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Dead Vulture

still not possible to migrate a VM from an Opteron server to a Xeon server, or visa versa

Apparently it is

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Virtualization/AMD-Red-Hat-Demo-New-Virtualization-Capabilities-with-Opteron-Processors/

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Boffin

LIve migration across platforms?

I don't think there's any chance that you'll ever be able to move a live VM (as in VMotion) from one hypervisor to another.

Most of us would settle for cold migration: being able to copy the folder of files representing a VM that's shut down, and reboot it under a different hypervisor. 20 minutes of downtime is a lot more acceptable than vendor lock-in.

Also note, if a system comprises two or more machines with redundancy and automatic fail-over, cold migration of machines, virtual or physical, allows migration of the live system, one machine at a time.

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Bah!

Big fucking deal.

From the title of the article, I had thought you meant the physical locations, which would have been interesting from a Business Continuity perspective. What I actually got was little more than marketing spin on a CPU-engineer pissing contest.

Boo!

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