Brit pair convicted for high-tech bank heist gone bad
jai
invalid swifts? #
Posted Wednesday 4th March 2009 21:08 GMT
swifts aren't really that complicated - they're a bit odd to someone who's never dealt with them before, perhaps, but not rocket science
if you've gone to all the effort of planning this kind of caper, how could you possibly let such a fundamental part of the plan go wrong?
Anonymous Coward
So what pray tell #
Posted Wednesday 4th March 2009 21:08 GMT

Were these "elementary" mistakes? I don't want to make them myself :P
/anon so I dont make elementary mistake No. 1 :P
Jesus Puncher
All to tell that ends well. #
Posted Wednesday 4th March 2009 21:34 GMT
It's always the same - bumbling crooks failed in biggest ever fraud attempt due to schoolboy errors.
Makes me wonder, how many unreported cases where the crooks actually got away with it?
Although, I dont suppose the banks will ever admit to the true scale of that problem.
Andus McCoatover
Fools and horses? #
Posted Wednesday 4th March 2009 21:34 GMT

"Rodley, you're a complete Plonker" springs to mind...
OK. Mine's the one with the bulletproof vest.
Danny
Bank of Where #
Posted Wednesday 4th March 2009 23:50 GMT
When I worked at SWIFT I was told the tale of the mafia gang who had invented a fictious island nation, complete with lots of supporting national websites and mentions on forums. Their 'national bank' applied for SWIFT membership and the scam was only caught because someone eventually looked at an atlas.
Anonymous Coward
Too greedy #
Posted Wednesday 4th March 2009 23:50 GMT
Even if they filled out the forms correctly, multi-million dollar/pound/euro international transfers get noticed rather quickly. It's better to move just a couple thousand every week or two so it looks like a regular payment to some outsourced contractor. You can keep that up for years before anyone catches on, at which point your money-laundering system should have become so complex that they'll never get through it.
LPF
The thing with swift #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 00:28 GMT

Is that it is used for huge transactions, and with the money flows during the day , then this would have have been noticed, before the money had been moved on. Or drawn out as a bankers draft, etc.
But yeah to plan this and then make a mistake in entering the swifth data is only fools and horses
level of stupidity!
Paris, because even she would not have made this mistake
Neoc
Re: All to tell that ends well. #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 05:14 GMT
@Jesus Puncher: "Makes me wonder, how many unreported cases where the crooks actually got away with it?"
None. By definition, you're not a crook unless someone notices. ^_^
P. Lee
Wot no two-factor authentication? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 10:06 GMT

Its quite handy for defeating keyloggers of this sort.
re: All to tell that ends well. - they didn't steal enough. If you can remove a few billion you're called a "Captain of Industry," even if people find out.
Pirates, obviously
Dr Patrick J R Harkin
Ah, technology! #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 10:06 GMT
Get admin rights - check
Install keylogger - check
Retrieve passwords - check
Fill in form - oooh. Not done one of these before. Does it have to be in block capitals, do you think? And what format do they want the date?
Joe K
Great stuff #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:01 GMT
I just hope those on-the-ball admin staff who saved hundreds of millions haven't been laid off or offshored to India since the Meltdown.
Steve Swann
£226m quid? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:15 GMT

...that'll cover their annual bonuses then.
GD
Hardware #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:15 GMT
I think they've used hardware keyloggers and didn't installed any software on the actual box.
Stevie
Bah #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 15:49 GMT
I hear they were, at the time of capture, planning The Other Other Operation.
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Anonymous Coward
@ Bah.............Dinsdale? Dinsdale? #
Posted Monday 9th March 2009 10:08 GMT

Watch out, it's Spiny Norman !!