Expedition to probe cavern lake 3km beneath Antarctic ice
W.S. Burroughs
Bizarre life-forms? #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 12:26 GMT

So that's where good ol' George Dubya is these days.
Tanuki
be careful what you bring back. #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 12:26 GMT

Didn't John Carpenter make a horribly prescient movie (starring Kurt Russell) about the perils of this sort of research?
Anonymous Coward
Alien v Predator #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 12:26 GMT

powered by 5000 D cells?
Paris, as if there is any probing going on.....
Fizzl
someThing down there? #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 12:26 GMT

We require Kurt Russell, Keith David some swedes and lots of flamethrowers.
James
They'll discover ... #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 12:39 GMT

"strange extreme organisms evolved over aeons along a separate track to that followed by the ordinary surface lifeforms of the sunlit world."
Mark Zuckerberg then...
fran
May I be the first #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 12:39 GMT

to welcome our Antartic overlords
Matt Underwood
Surely easier to just wait.. #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 12:39 GMT

Might as well take advantage of global warming and simply wait for the 3Km of ice to melt.
Still I'm looking forward to Grendel's Mother popping up - providing she looks like a giant naked golden Angeline Jolie as I've been led to believe.
Secretgeek
Consequences? #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 12:39 GMT

Although, in the great tradition of fictional Spanish waiters, I know nothing, would someone please explain how, given that this lake remains liquid only due to the massive pressure of the ice above it, what's going to happen when someone sticks a hole in the ice?
I'm envisaging the creation some kind of massive water geyser as the pressure releases. So much for keeping the lake pristine then.
Anyone with more knowledge about these kind of things willing to correct me?
Phil Endecott
Contamination #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:03 GMT
My recollection is that the Russians were drilling there and got very close to the lake water. But there was concern that their drilling method used something like paraffin to lubricate the drill or something, and that this would contaminate the lake water. There was also concern that even without the hydrocarbons the drill would introduce micro-organisms from the surface that would potentially be very disruptive to a hypothesized ecosystem that had been isolated for millennia. Presumably this new effort will be using technology that's designed to avoid these problems.
As for what they'll find, here's a story about microbes that live under glaciers:
http://www.space.com/searchforlife/glacial_life_000829.html
Eponymous Cowherd
Messing with things they don't understand. #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:03 GMT

Have they not seen "The Thing", AVP, "The Seeds of Doom (Dr Who), Happy Feet.
They'll uncover something and, not realising the danger, bring it back to Blighty where it will split open to release something that will eat / infect / absorb everyone.
And the Government and Police will be powerless to do anything because it won't be carrying an ID card!
Kevin Perry
HPL #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:03 GMT
Mountains of Madness *again*?
The Fuzzy Wotnot
Three cheers for Doug! #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:03 GMT

Finally the reputation of the master sci-fi/fantasy actor Doug McClure will be vindicated!
Ste Mansfield
Quality of pre-expedition information #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:03 GMT

I like the fact that the USA have a 4 minute CGI extravaganza just for talking about spacesuits, but when the Brits have a go....here's some nice pictures by Quentin Blake.
Classy
Svantevid
Love this sentence: #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:03 GMT

"It's probably too much to hope for that the boffins will awaken some ancient horror, slumbering deep below the polar wastes"
Lewis, we love you. :-)
Anonymous Coward
I saw Cloverfield last night... #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:03 GMT

...nuff' said! :(
dervheid
"Bizarre, 'extreme' prehistoric lifeforms expected" #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:03 GMT
So THAT'S where the current NuLabour cabinet ministers are from.
Forget about exploration, just take them back and seal up whatever hole they crawled out of in the first place.
Lottie
I for one #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:07 GMT

Welcome our subterranean ice covered lake surviving overlords.
Sweep
No Title #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:07 GMT
I can't help but think of the ending of War of The Worlds.
Question is, will we be wiped out by our lack of immunity to the germs of The Antarcticans, or will they be destroyed by ours?
Lionel Baden
what are the odds #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:14 GMT

That they find a invite only Pinguin Rave club ??
paris might be there for 25,000 fish
Anonymous Coward
What if the Scientists do find evidence of lifeform evolution... #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:37 GMT

Oh, what am I saying..... Quick pass me that rosary, I must seek forgiveness.
Mine's the big thick puffa jacket and Antarctic boots with heretic on the back and tinfoil hat and very thick ear muffs in the pocket.
Anonymous Coward
Re: May I be the first #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:50 GMT

> to welcome our Antartic overlords
You may, because everyone else will be welcoming our AntarCtic overlords.
When the Lord was passing out Brains, you thought he said Trains, and didn't get any?
Bob_Hunk
Clearly... #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:52 GMT

...Shoggoths are the biggest worry here.
Anonymous Coward
@Matt Underwood #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 13:52 GMT

"a giant naked golden Angelina Jolie" .... hmmmmmm .... y'know., it's so cold down there that everything gets stiff and erect and..... oh, p'haps we should focus on the Kurt Russell scenario instead, it'll be alot more gory but a lot less frustrating for the boys !
Mark Wills
@Secretgeek #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:12 GMT

I'm visualising a system that can 'melt' rather than drill (or perhaps a combination of the two) it's way through the ice, thus the ice above it re-freezes and thus remains sealed.
Tuh dah!!!!
:-)
Tawakalna
Shoggoths.. #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:12 GMT
"At the Mountains of Madness"
Anonymous Coward
now that, #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:12 GMT
Now that would set the world to rights and put humanity into perspective, awakening some great old one who has been slumbering in its lake for millenia surrounded by its grotesque minders locked away from hummanity. 3miles of ice is a fair old distance even for a monster of such hideous power, especially once theres been an some kind of surface catastrophy. Why not just go to sleep until a species with the power to dig you out appears.
But yes Mountains of Madness indeed.
"We've got to go on, we can't stop now." As the great old ones psychic influence grows over the party of scientists until they become slavish demi-humans bent to the will of unspeakable evil.
Now that would indeed be an exciting conclusion to our species.
Ahh well, one can dream.
Why is it nobody makes new films now anyway?
Simpson
@Secretgeek #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:12 GMT
Yes. A massive geyser will erupt, drowning all of the scientists.
I have personally observed ice fishermen drilling holes in ice sheets. When the hole is completed, there is a geyser. Then the ice sheet immediately sinks to the bottom of the lake, drowning all the fishermen.
Paul Segrue
A title is required. #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:26 GMT

Bah got here far too late to mention missing Norwegians and other Thing quotes....
Argh and someone has all ready welcomed our Antartic overlords...
only one thing to say.... Wibble
@ Lionel Baden.... Penguin Raves! just what I needed to cheer up a bad day at work.
Mycho
Not Cthulhu #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:32 GMT
Cthulhu's in the south pacific.
Elder Things... well, if scientists start being methodically dissected then maybe.
Ed Blackshaw
The ancient one arises! #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:51 GMT

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Mines the one with the all angles that don't look right and the tentacles coming out of the pockets.
mystra
HPL #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:51 GMT
Tim
As long as #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 14:51 GMT

They don't find Megatron we're all going to be OK. IF they do however, I want to welcome our Decepticon overlords.
Kenneth Chan
I love the hand drawn graphics #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 15:34 GMT

Yes, these guys are real scientist, no freaking power point/ photo shop.
Give me a HB pencil and some napkins!
Red Bren
Overlords? Pah! #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 15:42 GMT

I for one, welcome our be-tentacled, icy underlords!
Anton Ivanov
Re: As long as #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 16:03 GMT
I am more worried about a dead ancient berried under the antarctic StarGate. Or digging out the StarGate in the first place (though should not bother the Goaul'd that are sleeping).
breakfast
Ancient horrors in Antarctic lakes? #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 16:03 GMT

For a great recent take on this, may I recommend Charles Stross' "A Colder War", freely available to read right here: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm
If you like a bit of ia and fhtagn with your cold war drama it will suit you right down to the ground.
Tawakalna
@By Mystra.. #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 16:10 GMT
"ia ia cthulhu fhtagn!"
o r'lyeh?
"Ia! Yog-Sothoth! "Yi nash Yog Sothoth he lgeb throdag! Ia!"
Anonymous Coward
I need some peanut butter #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 16:35 GMT

... so I can speak like some of 'youse.
Mine's the one with the spoon and the giant jar of Skippy bulging out of the pocket.
Anonymous Coward
this is of course #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 16:35 GMT

they dont unearth some device to give them unstoppable power - in this case, i for one welcome our new bearded overlords! ;D
Charlie van Becelaere
Puts me in mind #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 16:36 GMT

of a "campaign" bumper sticker I saw during the recent unpleasantness which read:
C'thulu in '08 - why settle for the lesser of two evils?
And yes, I know C'thulu's not in the Antarctic - this story just reminded me of the sticker via the HPL Mountains of Madness commentary.
(evil billg because he's probably a C'thulu worshiper)
Secretgeek
@Simpson #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 16:43 GMT

No need to get sarky, it was a legit question.
No, I didn't expect all the water to come out through the hole and the surface to collapse. However, not having much experience of drilling 3 miles of ice into subterranean lakes I was making the assumption that the effect would be similar to an oil well.
Sarcasm's fine if the answer was obvious but If you can't give a straight answer to a reasonably asked question just fuck off.
Anonymous Coward
@ Lionel Baden #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 16:43 GMT

Are you talking about "Penguin Rave" as in dancing + alcohol + penguins = party
or LUG?
Iam Me
@AC 16:37 GMT #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 20:09 GMT

You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between a "Penguin Rave" that would involve certain LUGs or a party involving alcohol + various and assorted mind altering substances + our Sphenicidae friends :-). Either one is bound to end up with some weird stuff happening at the end.
peter
First Contact #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 20:09 GMT

Abduct
Probe it
Peyton
That water looks refreshing #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 20:09 GMT

Bottle it up and ship it here to the States pls
Daniel B.
Mind the giant penguins #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 20:09 GMT

If they find those, CLOSE the tunnel! It might be too late when you see the shoggoths...
Steve
I don't believe it for a minute #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 20:09 GMT

Surely if there were bizarre lifeforms in an under-ice watery lair, there would be a Playmobil reenactment of the glorious battle against them?
Rich
@Secretgeek #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 20:12 GMT
I didn't take his answer that way at all.
Anyway, I expect they'll just put the plug in.
Anonymous Coward
This project looks totally #
Posted Tuesday 3rd March 2009 22:49 GMT

Cool.
And Deep
Tawakalna
Playmobil Shoggoths and Old Ones.. #
Posted Wednesday 4th March 2009 11:17 GMT
..with frickin' laser beams coming out of their eyes.
now *that* would be awesome!